Trying to get into high-end but information is scarce at best

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And with rda's I have heard of their Creek rda mentioned a lot, I'm sure folks have mentioned it in the Shinyitis thread. Just wish I could get hold of a reasonably priced clone just to get a feel of them.
The Creek is awesome. I have two. To my knowledge it has not been cloned.
 

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You can start here, SQuape Shop

they're closer to you than us in the US. Their tanks are certainly high end and well regarded. They also have some nice, "better" mods. Dicodes is certainly a standout manufacturer in the higher end mod market that are not tiny, limited, handmade runs.

Check out Todd's Reviews on YT Todds Reviews

He does an assortment of vape reviews, but does end up covering a good deal of the higher end, limited edition stuff more readily available in Europe. Be aware that a good deal of higher end gear is sold through private Facebook groups you need to join or get an invite to join for the small run specialty higher priced stuff.
 

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    Jeez guys this exploded while I was sleeping. I'm checking out everything you've given me. Thanks a lot for all the info. Someone asked if I use TC and the answer is - yes. I have an aromamizer lite and I use SS coils on it so most of the time I'm using it with TC mode. My other RTA is the profile unity and I've not gotten some SS nexmesh yet so that I use in power mode. But that's not really important as I'm planning to buy a tank as well.Okay off I go checking out your suggestions.
     

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    Concerning high end regulated mods, any which utilize the Evolv DNA chip are almost always considered "high end". Evolv invented Temp Control amd the DNA chip, and holds the patent for it. Everyone else has reverse engineered their own chip (ie China manufacturers) to replicate Evolv's.

    Personally, I use two JAC Vapour series B DNA75. A popular mod made by a highly reputable manufacturer in Scotland and utilizes the DNA chip.

    Talking product development with JAC Founder, Andrew Logan



    The matt black version shown above in the video has been discontinued as the rubberized paint finish wasn't very durable. A unpainted natural metal alloy "sandstorm" model has been substituted in its place (below). Word is a new black version is about to be introduced soon. Only available from the Jac Vapour website.

    jac-vapor-series-b-dna-75w-sandstorm-mod-review-vaperevs-4.jpg

    I have a JAC and really like it.
     

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    So far I've set my goal to a few mods:
    Cheapest option : Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250C
    More expensive : Custom Asmodus Lustro 200W stabilized wood
    Most expensive : TurnwoodFX Cali 21700 DNA75C handmade.

    I'm basically getting one of those 3, still not sure which one. Might go with the Lost Vape cuz it seems to be the best performance per dollar.

    Now for tanks. I'd really like to get a nice MTL tank, something like the kayfun lite 2019 or better ( no idea what yet).

    And I'd really like to get a quality dripper around 25-26mm. Perhaps dual coil but really doesn't matter as long as the flavor is good ( around 100-150$). That's how far I've gotten so far with my christmas shopping list lol.
     

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    Sounds like you are having fun! Which is the most important part.

    I have a price threshold above which I will not allow myself to go and I tend to pair expensive mods with cheap tanks and vice versa as I am both clumsy and absent minded. GOOD cheap stuff, but yes, the exception being the two Radius/P3 Kabuki setups I have.

    I dunked on of those Radiuses into a damn cup of hot coffee I had just set down. It had to go to Radius Bill for Repair. That was an unfortunate day, indeed.

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    The thing that I forgot to mention is that I'm not sure a single battery would suffice my usage. While I do vape at a lower wattage a pair of 18650 can not last me a day. I always put in my second pair in the afternoon. So if I did have a single 21700 mod I'd probably have to replace the battery at least two times a day which would be kinda annoying.
     
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    The thing that I forgot to mention is that I'm not sure a single battery would suffice my usage. While I do vape at a lower wattage a pair of 18650 can not last me a day. I always put in my second pair in the afternoon. So if I did have a single 21700 mod I'd probably have to replace the battery at least two times a day which would be kinda annoying.

    Have you had a look at the Lost Vape Triade DNA250C, it's a Triple 18650.
    I'm not too familiar with this myself as I'm an Asmodus man but others on here might be able to shed some more light:D
     
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    Have you had a look at the Lost Vape Triade DNA250C, it's a Triple 18650.
    I'm not too familiar with this myself as I'm an Asmodus man but others on here might be able to shed some more light:D
    YES that's exactly what I was looking at. You read my mind! I'm a function over form type of guy and that device seems like my cup of tea. LOTS of battery life while still ergonomic and looks tough. Might not be quite as " high end" as I was initially looking for but still pretty good.
     

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    YES that's exactly what I was looking at. You read my mind! I'm a function over form type of guy and that device seems like my cup of tea. LOTS of battery life while still ergonomic and looks tough. Might not be quite as " high end" as I was initially looking for but still pretty good.

    You also said you were interested in a Custom Asmodus stabwood Lustro, the Asmodus website has 50% off site wide at the moment with the code BLK50.
    https://www.asmodus.com/collections...s/asmodus-lustro-200w-gunmetal-kodama-edition
    There's more on there to go through. It works out cheap for a very nice mod, then you can get two mods;)
     
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    I'm in Europe where this is not an issue and am also making my own liquid. I get your concern and frustration, hell if I were living in the USA I'd be mad too. I was just looking for some direction as far as brands for high end mods like Dicodes and also drippers and tanks. Thanks for your concern tho, also it's almost impossible to get high nicotine here cuz there is a 20mg limit.
    Talk to Keith with Creme de Vape. Not a better, quality company out there than them. https://www.cremedevape.com/Brands/Dicodes

    If you have the money, I would go with a couple of Dicodes. They are made in Germany and are quality, through and through.
     

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    The thing that I forgot to mention is that I'm not sure a single battery would suffice my usage. While I do vape at a lower wattage a pair of 18650 can not last me a day. I always put in my second pair in the afternoon. So if I did have a single 21700 mod I'd probably have to replace the battery at least two times a day which would be kinda annoying.
    Most dual battery devices are ran in series, which doesn't increase run time a whole lot over a single battery mod at lower wattages. They have the ability to output more power though. A parallel mod roughly doubles run time over a single battery mod. At least this is my experience with the mechs I've used, I don't use regulated mods much at all.
     

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    If you’re a TC vaper a DNA based mod is an excellent solution. All three you list use the same board so it comes down to form factor and aesthetics of the box. You can decide what that’s worth.

    As to an RDA, I’m not sure why you’re using price as a deciding factor. There are excellent well machined attys out there for $50, and”high end” attys for far more that have shipped with stripped screws, loose metal shavings, and excess machine oil. I’d read threads in the RDA section here before making a final choice.


    Edit: forgot to add the Triade is a very nice mod. I have two. The form is quite nice and the finishing well done, but it is not a “rugged” mod in the sense of standing up to lots of physical abuse. If you expect to use it in difficult environments you’re better off with a ruggedized mod like an Aegis.
     

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    YES that's exactly what I was looking at. You read my mind! I'm a function over form type of guy and that device seems like my cup of tea. LOTS of battery life while still ergonomic and looks tough. Might not be quite as " high end" as I was initially looking for but still pretty good.

    I own an older version of the Think Vape Finder DNA250 that is essentially the same device and it is especially good for multiple heavy coils setups such as tigers or aliens coils. Lots and lots of power.

    Think Vape Finder DNA250.jpg
     

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    Most dual battery devices are ran in series, which doesn't increase run time a whole lot over a single battery mod at lower wattages. They have the ability to output more power though. A parallel mod roughly doubles run time over a single battery mod. At least this is my experience with the mechs I've used, I don't use regulated mods much at all.

    Series will increase operating voltage, which will decrease current draw… I = P/V. If your cut off voltage for a single cell is 3.2 volts, 60 watts would draw 20 amps. Dual series, the actual cut off would be double, given the combined voltage of the 2 cells at 6.4 volts - so the current draw using the same 60 watts is only 10 amps.

    Dual parallel will give the same cut off voltage as a single cell, but current draw is split across the 2 cells – so 60 watts on a dual parallel would yield roughly 10 amp draw

    Further benefits with dual cells on a regulated device is that you are decreasing battery sag (or voltage drop…however you want to describe it), over a single cell at the same power usage. This will mean the low voltage cut off feature is not tripped prematurely.

    In theory, both dual series and parallel with a regulated device should yield roughly double the run time.

    Dual parallel regulated devices are rare – only ones I’ve seen are DNA75(c), and this is because the board was designed to operate at between 3 and 4.2 volts. A dual series would exceed this operating voltage. Where a DNA 250C, for comparison, it’s operating voltage is 6 volts to 16.8 volts (for a quad cell device)
     

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    For me it's not about exotic setups. I'm mostly running single coil. It's more about having an all day device. I'm a chain vaper and even at 50-60W a dual 18650 mod lasts me around 10 hours. So it's not about the power as much as it is about the convenience of not swapping batteries. Ultimately my endgame would be to have a dual or triple 18650 DNA mod + a dripper and a tube single 21700 mod like a Dani 25 + an MTL tank like a Kayfun to run at low wattages. That's something I can't do all at once tho so I'm probably going to get the first setup for christmas and the MTL setup later in the year.
     

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    For me it's not about exotic setups. I'm mostly running single coil. It's more about having an all day device. I'm a chain vaper and even at 50-60W a dual 18650 mod lasts me around 10 hours. So it's not about the power as much as it is about the convenience of not swapping batteries. Ultimately my endgame would be to have a dual or triple 18650 DNA mod + a dripper and a tube single 21700 mod like a Dani 25 + an MTL tank like a Kayfun to run at low wattages. That's something I can't do all at once tho so I'm probably going to get the first setup for christmas and the MTL setup later in the year.

    Dovpo does have a new 250C mod coming out that uses dual 21700's so that's another high wattage option, although I know nothing about the mod itself as I don't think it's even been released yet.

    But if you want to drip at high wattage and really need a solid day's use, a triple battery DNA mod is a good solution. You can also look for custom solutions built to order and go with a Lipo instead.
     
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