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Ishknock

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Kanger Protank-2 clearomizer – KangerTech
This link to protank it is a step up from what you are using. In my opinion and use I have had issues. I would recommend a cartomizer like baditude said

Thanks for link. $10 for one. Maybe I've been buying wlamart brand instead of best buy brand. I think I got 6 for about that price but maybe I'll try a Roles Royce just to see if there is much of a difference. Again I kind of feel like a tank is just holding the juice and wouldn't change experience much but maybe I'll just try it for 10$ to see if there is much to do about this.
 

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It is the juice and the juice attachments which make a difference when you come down to it. Batteries just supply the power, and in the case of variable voltage the temperature with which the heating coil in the juice attachment vaporizes the juice into vapor.

Clearomizers use strings to wick the juice to the heating coil. They can be top coiled (iClear 30) for warmer vapor or bottom coiled (Kanger Protank) for a cooler vapor, both which can affect flavor. Cartomizers and cartotanks use a different wick material to bring the juice to the heating coil, so that will be a different vape and affect flavor, too.

You Tube has a search that you can type in a device and see how it works. Pick any vape website, like AltSmoke Your Online Electronic Cigarette Store - AltSmoke , and it will have a search window where you can find what a piece of gear looks like along with a description.
 

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It sometime takes a bit longer for some to completely kick the cigs. Cutting the number from 40 to 5 is great progress, you may need a bit stronger nicotine level at times when you want to reach for a cigarette. If you're getting good vapor production the next step is the nic level and the flavors.

Flavors are the toughest part, everyone has different tastes, and your own taste buds will change as they recover from smoking. The flavors I loved starting out I no longer vape at all. Others I didn't think I'd like, grew on me. Try a bunch on sample bottles 5mL size and don't throw your rejects out, in 6 months they may be your favorites...:laugh:

From what friend told me and what I've kind of gathered on here in past few months is 1 cig is approx 1 mg of nicotine. I'm vaping about 3-4 ml of 24 mg/ml juice. So I think that's 3-4 packs of nicotine equivalent? I don't think I want to up my nic as if I relapse that could mean I'd be smoking 3-4 packs a day?

I read somewhere that no one knows how much is actually absorbed with vaping but if we go off of just those statistics not sure I want to increase higher than 24 mg/ml. There is way too much info on this forum for me to disgust in such a small amount of time and every thread I read has 5 opinions on every topic ;)

My friend and I share juice so I'll stick with what I got at 24 mg/ml. I feel if nicotine was issue I would just vape more. A lot of times my cig smokes come after a 30-60 minute vaping session which is why I feel it's a mind game for me.

I think vapor production is my "mind" problem. If I don't inhale I get a lot of vapor. I think I just want to see more vapor so I feel like I'm still smoking.
 

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You could always just buy one of everything. OK, maybe not. But, try a top coil, a bottom coil, a carto-tank, etc. Just a sampling to experiment. Just only buy one of each until you find what you like best.

Juice is actually harder. Lots of choices. But, lots of junk. I was lucky enough to find an ADV soon after I started. I bought about 20 30ml bottles of it during that first year. Then, suddenly I didn't like it anymore. Go figure.

I got fed up and just started making my own juice. Actually, I had already started to but had stopped using any of it while I was all blissful with that one ADV.

Good luck!



ETA: You may be right about vapor production. I don't know. What I do know is that I'm fine as long as a get a sense of satisfaction. It's about the feeling. For example, coffee flavors give me a better sense of satisfaction that other flavors. It's not because I love the flavor so much as that it FEELS right. If that makes sense.

Also, different flavors taste very different in different juice delivery devices. It's amazing what a difference a small change can make.
 

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If your looking for more vapor maybe try a dual coil. Aspire has a good bcc dual out.

As far as rda once you've built a couple it isn't so bad. In my experience they give more vapor and nic but with a lower throat hit. Because of more vapor and nic absorption you end up going down on the nic.

I'm not trying to push it there are many options but keep an open mind. Of course on my aspire air bottom dual coil i drilled the air holes bigger because I'm used to rda now it gives as much vapor and as smooth a hit as an rda. So maybe even increasing air flow in what you have be it single or dual coil may give you what you want. Just make sure you have spares though before drilling your only carto lol. Also if you drill bigger holes do it in as small an increment as possible to avoid over doing it. Mine are only 3 times the original size.


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From what friend told me and what I've kind of gathered on here in past few months is 1 cig is approx 1 mg of nicotine. I'm vaping about 3-4 ml of 24 mg/ml juice. So I think that's 3-4 packs of nicotine equivalent? I don't think I want to up my nic as if I relapse that could mean I'd be smoking 3-4 packs a day?

I read somewhere that no one knows how much is actually absorbed with vaping but if we go off of just those statistics not sure I want to increase higher than 24 mg/ml. There is way too much info on this forum for me to disgust in such a small amount of time and every thread I read has 5 opinions on every topic ;)

My friend and I share juice so I'll stick with what I got at 24 mg/ml. I feel if nicotine was issue I would just vape more. A lot of times my cig smokes come after a 30-60 minute vaping session which is why I feel it's a mind game for me.

I think vapor production is my "mind" problem. If I don't inhale I get a lot of vapor. I think I just want to see more vapor so I feel like I'm still smoking.
If you want more vapor then increase the ratio of vg. Or better yet, add one to two drops max of distilled water to your bottle of ejuice. Depending on the size of the bottle. If you have a 10ml bottle of ejuice then one drop only and shake the bottle before filling the carto/cartomizer. Any more will dilute flavor.
As to 1 cig equaling 1 ml of nic, ummm yes and no. In 1ml of nic ejuice is the amt of nic we measure, but to how much we actually inhale is a different story. We vape more than we smoked simply because of the way the nic is absorbed into our bodies. So, god forbid, you actually went back to reg cigs, I doubt you would actually smoke as many as you think.
Tobacco has many alkoloids known as WTA =Whole Tobacco Alkoloids. Nic is just one of them. Some members need more than just the nic to get off the stinkies.
google WTA . There are ejuice vendors that have produced and do sell it. Also search it here of ecf. There is a member- vdap- who led the charge with this and is extremely knowledgable and has written extensively here about it. This may be the missing part you are talking about.

Good luck.
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If you're using and are happy with a Vamo there's really not much out there that will give a better vape PV- wise except maybe a bottom feeding dripper. No better vape than a dripper PV IMO.
Sounds like you may need to experiment with some other tanks. WTA juice is another option and many have solved thier issues with WTA. May also be you need to up your nicotine level.
 

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From what friend told me and what I've kind of gathered on here in past few months is 1 cig is approx 1 mg of nicotine. I'm vaping about 3-4 ml of 24 mg/ml juice. So I think that's 3-4 packs of nicotine equivalent? I don't think I want to up my nic as if I relapse that could mean I'd be smoking 3-4 packs a day? ....

The nic levels in cigarettes, vaping and even gum / patches are all measured differently. None of the measurements are of the level of nicotine you actually absorb...:facepalm: It's an apples and oranges comparison to begin with.

If you're getting too much nicotine, you will probably get hiccups, if you do simpy stop for an hour or so, no lasting ill effects. When I tried quitting with the gum, this would happen to me regularly....:)
 

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Bottom feeder with some WTA. Makes TNT a happy camper.

Although I don't own a bottom feeder borrowed a friend's it literally knocked sox off. First PV was a Mech Mod and if I had to do it all over again would've bought a bottom feeder. GREAT to see you tnt56 and I still remember your personal story.....something I'll never ever forget and I thank you for that.
 

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Although I don't own a bottom feeder borrowed a friend's it literally knocked sox off. First PV was a Mech Mod and if I had to do it all over again would've bought a bottom feeder. GREAT to see you tnt56 and I still remember your personal story.....something I'll never ever forget and I thank you for that.

Always good to see my mentors again. I'm up to 3 Reo's now. Using the reomizer with micro coils and cotton wicks. I should have gotten these a long time ago.
As for the blog you refer to. Well I still refer it to people that struggle. I read it sometimes just for the reality check.
And thank you for all you do.
 

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If you want more vapor then increase the ratio of vg. Or better yet, add one to two drops max of distilled water to your bottle of ejuice. Depending on the size of the bottle. If you have a 10ml bottle of ejuice then one drop only and shake the bottle before filling the carto/cartomizer. Any more will dilute flavor.
As to 1 cig equaling 1 ml of nic, ummm yes and no. In 1ml of nic ejuice is the amt of nic we measure, but to how much we actually inhale is a different story. We vape more than we smoked simply because of the way the nic is absorbed into our bodies. So, god forbid, you actually went back to reg cigs, I doubt you would actually smoke as many as you think.
Tobacco has many alkoloids known as WTA =Whole Tobacco Alkoloids. Nic is just one of them. Some members need more than just the nic to get off the stinkies.
google WTA . There are ejuice vendors that have produced and do sell it. Also search it here of ecf. There is a member- vdap- who led the charge with this and is extremely knowledgable and has written extensively here about it. This may be the missing part you are talking about.

Good luck.
:)

Hmm after looking up the WTA (Whole Tobacco Alkoloids) you may be on to something. From what I gather it has some other stuff that is tobacco besides just the nicotine. Couldn't find exactly what it contains though. I thought it was just the nicotine that was adictive but apparently there is other stuff in cigs that cause addiction?
 

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I'm not sure if I'm looking for battery charge any more. One day is good for me and if I got 3 charged 18650's that seems to be enough for charge length. As stated I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Something to take me next step and not smoke cigs on weekeneds is what I really want but not sure if that is the device, the juice, or whatever.


The Itaste VTR would be the next step I think. You can still use your 18650 batts and plop a Protank 2 on top of it and be HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!
 

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Thanks for link. $10 for one. Maybe I've been buying wlamart brand instead of best buy brand. I think I got 6 for about that price but maybe I'll try a Roles Royce just to see if there is much of a difference. Again I kind of feel like a tank is just holding the juice and wouldn't change experience much but maybe I'll just try it for 10$ to see if there is much to do about this.


Actually the price is $19.50, they seem to have left off the one in price on the top picture, if you add one to cart it is $19.50. You can find them cheaper searching.
 

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I agree with RedNBlack. I too have a Vamo V3. The 2 tanks that came with it didn't perform half as well as my ProTank II mini. I find that having a couple of extra tanks and flavors keeps me coming back to my ecigg. Here recently I bought the Vivi Nova tank and have learned how to rebuild the coil. I use cotton as the wick and am getting along very well. The ProTank is a great maintanance free tank and the coil being closer to the battery seems to help the flavor.
 
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