All these new rebuildable atomisers...all of a sudden. I am a conspiracy theorist and watch the trends. Are you guys trying to say you don't think the future looks too bright? Just wondering....hehehe
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All these new rebuildable atomisers...all of a sudden. I am a conspiracy theorist and watch the trends. Are you guys trying to say you don't think the future looks too bright? Just wondering....hehehe
Could you explain that for a non conspiracy theorist?
Certainly! It really isn't about conspiracies...but about trends. The FDA wants to ban or regulate us...the petition to the govt. to supress actions against vaping is not going well...I and others have expresed concerns about the future of vaping...now we have a flood of rebuildable atomisers. You do the math. Does this add up or what?
no it doesn't.....these have just finally come into a regular market. Prior to, it was just a select few who were making them and they were very scarce to get hold of.
We've been through the FDA scare several times, and it always gets blown out of proportion. They cannot regulate this kind of hardware. The only thing that can be regulated and there not be any way around it, is the nic liquid...and that is ONLY because of the nicotine and where it is derived from.
It is hard to prove a conspiracy on this one... RBA's have been around for quite some time, longer than the fear that the FDA was going to regulate or ban e-cig related stuff. It's more about being self sustaining and also being able to control the way your device vapes. The issue with the FDA certainly has fueled development. The main thing about the recent releases is more about the mass production catching up to what was being done on a much smaller scale previously.
OK, I figured you were going towards a more crazy conspiracy like big tobacco was pushing these to give the fda more fuel for the fire. As in we should regulate these devices. users are rebuilding these and could harm themselves.
Most experienced vapors are tired of throwing money away on disposables anyway.
And I quote Bill Godshall:
"Since the FSPTCA only authorizes the FDA to regulate tobacco products, the agency would likely only apply the regulations to e-liquid (that contains nicotine derived from tobacco), to prefilled disposable cartridges, and to other products that contain e-liquid.
Based on my understanding of the FSPTCA, the only way the FDA could attempt to mess with e-cigarette hardware (that doesn't contain any nicotine) is by invoking Section 201(rr)(4) of the Tobacco Control Act, which prohibits the marketing of a “tobacco product” in combination with other FDA-regulated products, which includes "drug devices". If the FDA asserted that e-cigarette hardware are drug devices (which I strongly doubt would occur since the agency would likely lose in court again if/when sued, but if Obama is reelected, anything is possible), the agency could attempt to ban the selling of hardware in the same packages as the FDA regulated nicotine containing e-cigarette products. But even if the FDA did that and won in court, all hardware would just have be packaged and sold separately from nicotine containing e-cigarette products."
And I quote Bill Godshall:
"Since the FSPTCA only authorizes the FDA to regulate tobacco products, the agency would likely only apply the regulations to e-liquid (that contains nicotine derived from tobacco), to prefilled disposable cartridges, and to other products that contain e-liquid.
Based on my understanding of the FSPTCA, the only way the FDA could attempt to mess with e-cigarette hardware (that doesn't contain any nicotine) is by invoking Section 201(rr)(4) of the Tobacco Control Act, which prohibits the marketing of a “tobacco product” in combination with other FDA-regulated products, which includes "drug devices". If the FDA asserted that e-cigarette hardware are drug devices (which I strongly doubt would occur since the agency would likely lose in court again if/when sued, but if Obama is reelected, anything is possible), the agency could attempt to ban the selling of hardware in the same packages as the FDA regulated nicotine containing e-cigarette products. But even if the FDA did that and won in court, all hardware would just have be packaged and sold separately from nicotine containing e-cigarette products."
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Ooooh! I LIKE that one! Can I use it later? Or is it copyrighted by an offshore conglomerate? hehehe
This is purely conjecture on my part but I really do think the FDA involvement into eCigs is only to say, "Hey we are here and we are not spinning out of the loop". This is their way of making their presence known as they see that the trend is definitely on the upswing for electronic devices being used to replace regular tobacco products. They see, they know, the numbers.
In other words in my gut I don't think you will see any sort of radical regulations passed down. I think the worse you will see is that they kick the can down the road as they do further studies. etc. Right now they are raising community awareness OF THEIR 'awareness'.
In other words in my gut I don't think you will see any sort of radical regulations passed down. I think the worse you will see is that they kick the can down the road as they do further studies. etc. Right now they are raising community awareness OF THEIR 'awareness'.
Personally, I think there are much more constructive things we can do with our time and resources than talking about conspiracies... such as coming up with new ideas for vaping or other areas. There are enough things going on in the real world, that we don't need to make imaginary things up to worry about.
I'm kinda thinking the same thing. My only worry is that they try to implement and require some kind of testing on e-liquids, and charge sellers for this testing.
And there you have it...straight from the owner's own fingers....what I wanted to hear...HIS opinion. Thanks, Danno!
Stock up on Nic Juice. Everything else is fine...Besides, if the FDA wins, it will be November before its set in stone..
If you know how to design 3D models you could teach me in your spare time. I want to learn so I can create a caddy for a dna20 chip using a 3d printer. My burl wood will be dried in about 6-8 months. So I got time.
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If you know how to design 3D models you could teach me in your spare time. I want to learn so I can create a caddy for a dna20 chip using a 3d printer. My burl wood will be dried in about 6-8 months. So I got time.
I suspect that your concept for a "3d model" and mine.... may differ slightly
I suspect that your concept for a "3d model" and mine.... may differ slightly
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oooh! you do RC flying?
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