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I did some research and people said that finishing washers from th hardware store work well. But I won't be going that route. I read on here and elsewhere that just plugging the two atty intake holes and drilling new holes on the casing about bridge level works all better.
If you look at the pics there is no needle involved, he has soldered in a piece of 1/16" brass tubing. For the connector this is what you want.
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I doubt that. The design of the 510 atty and it's air inlet holes (in the threads) means your air will be coming from below and over the coil. And drilling holes in atties is a pain. And if you look at the DSE901's that do have a hole in the side like you describe they are some of the messiest and leakiest atties out there.
Using some sort of well allows any excess liquid to exit from the connector's air intake holes, which helps to avoid flooding and is ready to be sucked back in while vaping.
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how is it messy? the juice will never get up high enough to reach the new holes. Plus with the intakes plugged the juice has no where to go but up. Where the coil and bridge are. This makes the juice saturate both and any excess will just run back down into the bottle. Now i am not arguing this point out of experience. I read this somewhere on here and the guy tested both ways and found that the plugging intake holes method works ALOT better than having a well.
Ill have to find it and post a link
You don't want liquid washing over the coil then going back into the bottle, contaminating the rest of the juice with dark atty gunk. And I (and assume many others) don't vape with the PV in vertical position.
Atties and cartos all work better when the air is draw up from below the coil, not from the top of it. That's why they have all been designed this way.
Good luck with your drilling.
Ok, got everything I need now. Even got the plastic tubing.
Only question I have is: Can I use the Luer Lock Needle (has hole in center), from MV's instead of a piece of 1/16" brass tubing?
Sorry for all the question's but I am new to modding and need all the help I can get.
Thanks.
Only question I have is: Can I use the Luer Lock Needle (has hole in center), from MV's instead of a piece of 1/16" brass tubing?
Sorry for all the question's but I am new to modding and need all the help I can get.
Thanks.
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Dethnode, it fits around the connector snugly so that when you squeeze the bottle until some juice comes out of the connector, the washer acts like a moat around it and catches the juice til you suck it back up into the atty or release the bottle.
Lehd, yes, but soldering the wire to the needle takes some doing, or solder to the outside or lower edge of the center post so the needle still gets through. Then seal it up with the epoxy putty once everything is in place.
Lehd, yes, but soldering the wire to the needle takes some doing, or solder to the outside or lower edge of the center post so the needle still gets through. Then seal it up with the epoxy putty once everything is in place.
I'm using the two needle method since I only have small hole connectors to work with and I have never question. How are you guys making good contact between the atty and outside bigger needle? Mine makes none at all and I made my own makeshift washer using wrapped up wire to infrastructure surface area. It works fine now but what am I doing wrong? I'm using 1/16 aluminum tube for the inner and 1/8"(I think) brass tube for the outside. The tubes fit snugly into eachother nonetheless
Awesome tutorial. I really want to try it out and I think I will soon.
I just had a crazy thought for the feeding system. It may sound absolutely ridiculous at first but for some reason I think it would work. And that's based off of basically zero knowledge of modding whatsoever, so it must be good!
Anyways, what if instead of using a standard bottle for feeding, we used a pipette? Think about it, this is what pipettes are DESIGNED for, right? It would allow you to pump the liquid, soak the foil stuff in the atomizer, and it would also suck any excess liquid back into itself! I think I'm going to try it, but it someone else decides to do if please post if it works!
Here's a crudely drawn example of what I'm talking about:
Looking at this image, you can see an extremely poorly drawn depiction of a pipette, with it's long nozzle cut at an optimal length to fit snugly into a metal tube which can used as a connection.
So basically you get a pipette, one with a small enough nozzle to fit inside of another metal tube. You measure out the length you would need so it fits in your case and snugly into the metal tube, and viola! ALSO, pipettes are DIRT CHEAP.
Things I can see not working:
1. The nozzle diameter being too large. This would obviously be a huge problem.
2. The pipette not sucking liquid back into it. I.e. "getting stuck" when pumped.
I understand the most obvious problem with this is refilling the pipette. But it's not that bad if you think about it. You would just stick it in some liquid and let it suck the amount you need up. Again, this is just a wild feverish thought I had, but I think it might work...
Opinions?
I just had a crazy thought for the feeding system. It may sound absolutely ridiculous at first but for some reason I think it would work. And that's based off of basically zero knowledge of modding whatsoever, so it must be good!
Anyways, what if instead of using a standard bottle for feeding, we used a pipette? Think about it, this is what pipettes are DESIGNED for, right? It would allow you to pump the liquid, soak the foil stuff in the atomizer, and it would also suck any excess liquid back into itself! I think I'm going to try it, but it someone else decides to do if please post if it works!
Here's a crudely drawn example of what I'm talking about:
Looking at this image, you can see an extremely poorly drawn depiction of a pipette, with it's long nozzle cut at an optimal length to fit snugly into a metal tube which can used as a connection.
So basically you get a pipette, one with a small enough nozzle to fit inside of another metal tube. You measure out the length you would need so it fits in your case and snugly into the metal tube, and viola! ALSO, pipettes are DIRT CHEAP.
Things I can see not working:
1. The nozzle diameter being too large. This would obviously be a huge problem.
2. The pipette not sucking liquid back into it. I.e. "getting stuck" when pumped.
I understand the most obvious problem with this is refilling the pipette. But it's not that bad if you think about it. You would just stick it in some liquid and let it suck the amount you need up. Again, this is just a wild feverish thought I had, but I think it might work...
Opinions?
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Okay highping, you asked for pics. Let me first say that most of my soldering has been under the hood of a car. You get the wire where it needs to go and you make sure it doesn't short or get tangled in any moving parts. It doesn't have to look pretty. Also my fabrication skills are well, not great. I don't even have a soldering iron. I just have a big honkin' soldering gun. In other words, any comments about neat work will be laughed at heartily. However, what I built works really well. I did make some modifications. First, I wasn't so sure about that little switch you used so, I used a 3 battery box and a big fat horn switch. That meant I had to carve away part of the battery partitions. Instead of a brass tube, I used a piece of a 16 gauge syringe needle. I put a syphon tube in the juice bottle it's some 1/16 ID medical tubing I got on Amazon. I'll also say that those Trustfire batteries had pretty a pretty disappointing life. I know about AWs now. Didn't when I ordered them though. The only other stupid thing I did was mark 4 dots with a sharpie to give me an idea where to put the cutout for the juice. After I was done, I used some lacquer thinner on a q-tip to get the dots off. It also etched the plastic. 
Please let me know if I did anything dangerous here. Now I have some questions. My main concern is that tube going up into the atomizer. It seems to really go a long way. I have a couple different brands of attys around here. Can I count on that working on most attys?
Please let me know if I did anything dangerous here. Now I have some questions. My main concern is that tube going up into the atomizer. It seems to really go a long way. I have a couple different brands of attys around here. Can I count on that working on most attys?
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Standard Joye attys not LR. One of the batteries lasted about 3 hours. The other lasted about 5. I know it's ugly but, I really liked the way that box vaped. I was hitting it like a fool. Still, I would have expected at least as much life as I get from my 650 MAH eGo and I've never had one of those go out that quick even using LR. Those Trustfires are supposed to be 900 MAH.
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Well after all is said and done 700mAh is more accurate. A real eGo bat is regulated, hence you are vaping at lower volts, but for longer and more consistent vape times.
Your vape times sound right, actually measuring in ml of liquid makes for better comparisons. But one at 3 hours and one at 5 hours seems odd. I tried the AW14500 Li-ions last year, the slightly longer vape times were not nearly significant enough to justify the high cost. I'd rather have 3 ready to go Trustfires for the same price as one AW.
It doesn't matter how it looks, as long as your connections are well soldered, it's the vape that counts. You've built a box that is significantly superior to the commercial WetBox.
Good to know. I may just order a couple more from madvapes then and carry extras.
Thanks for the vote of confidence on the functionality. Those joints are solid. I'm the guy that solders on car wiring remember.
I'm not really into LR. Little to hot for me unless it's an eGo-T. Then I want LR.Since no one commented on the depth of that needle into the atomizer, I guess it's good. Like so many others, I've been bitten by the mod bug and it's given me an idea. There may be some more ugly mods coming.
Looks good Micky 
As long as it vapes, it's a successful mod! I've always been a 'function over fashion' kinda guy anyway.
As for the needle depth... It looks about right to me. I have made a few of these now and I still always think it's sticking out too far when I take off the atty. But I've never had any issues.
As long as it vapes, it's a successful mod! I've always been a 'function over fashion' kinda guy anyway.As for the needle depth... It looks about right to me. I have made a few of these now and I still always think it's sticking out too far when I take off the atty. But I've never had any issues.
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