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And there are other ways to check. I own a provari and I won't accept that selling point.

I really don't get how anyone who can spend the cash for the provari compares the twist, but that's just me. The ohm check is not the reason the provari is better.

Wait till you get into RAs.
 

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And there are other ways to check. I own a provari and I won't accept that selling point.

I really don't get how anyone who can spend the cash for the provari compares the twist, but that's just me. The ohm check is not the reason the provari is better.

What is? I'm honestly just curious. I want one, mainly because I like getting new gadgets, but I want to know why I should actually want one lol.

I am planning on getting a rebuildable atty soon too. Building wicks seems like something I could handle, and I'm the type of person who likes that sort of control.
 

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I've been eyeing a nice VV like the Provari for a while now. And I've seen a VMax in person recently and it made me want one.

The thing I've been wondering is, does it actually provide any different vaping experience? Lets say compared to the Ego Twist, which is what I use. Other than being able to set the voltage higher, is the vape the same experience when the two are at the same volts? I usually keep my Twist set at around 4 volts depending on the ohms, so I don't see myself needing any higher volts.

I know it has excellent build quality, durability, failsafes, etc compared to a Twist. But the actual vape is what I'm wondering about.

I found the vape to be significantly different, somewhat to my surprise. For my personal combination of juice and carto, the Twist came up woefully short. Hence the sale of them less than two weeks after purchase.

To be specific, I kept having to constantly adjust the voltage (which I never do with the ProVari), and even then was simply topping out the amp limit. It's important to note though, that I vape 1.6ohm cartos at 4.2volts.

But everyone is different - this is just me. I've seen others say the vape is close to the same (which is why I purchased them in the first place).

If you're not pushing as many amps as I am, the Twist is likely a wonderful device. At least based on reviews I've seen here (ECF).
 

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Wait till you get into RAs.


Again, there are other ways to check. I get that it is a nice feature, I use it.

What is? I'm honestly just curious. I want one, mainly because I like getting new gadgets, but I want to know why I should actually want one lol.

I am planning on getting a rebuildable atty soon too. Building wicks seems like something I could handle, and I'm the type of person who likes that sort of control.

For me, quality. It's reliable, not disposable. It's pretty. There is a thread full of butterfingers bragging about how many times they have dropped them...I have read it and am amazed at the durability.
 

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Something my Grandfather told me about tools as a kid comes to mind here;

"Buy cheap, buy twice."

I'm in no way a Provari fanboy, as I don't even have one yet. But from reading the thread that thinkingabout it is referring to, and other stories around the web, it appears to be incredibly durable for an electronic (not mechanical in other words) device. And as mentioned, I think they look great too.
 

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Something my Grandfather told me about tools as a kid comes to mind here;

"Buy cheap, buy twice."

I'm in no way a Provari fanboy, as I don't even have one yet. But from reading the thread that thinkingabout it is referring to, and other stories around the web, it appears to be incredibly durable for an electronic (not mechanical in other words) device. And as mentioned, I think they look great too.

A wise man indeed, your grandfather.

One problem. Your grandfather never tried a ProVari. The problem I speak of is that many of us get spoiled, once we try it, and end up buying a 2nd. Or, in some cases (where maybe the wife also vapes), a THIRD :blush:

Because a backup is essential. HOWEVER, what DOES change is that we stop buying $50-$90 devices every month. So it still comes out to be a savings, in the long term. At least it has for me. For others, I cannot speak.

But I'll raise a glass to your grandfather, regardless! :toast:
 

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I've been eyeing a nice VV like the Provari for a while now. And I've seen a VMax in person recently and it made me want one.

The thing I've been wondering is, does it actually provide any different vaping experience? Lets say compared to the Ego Twist, which is what I use. Other than being able to set the voltage higher, is the vape the same experience when the two are at the same volts? I usually keep my Twist set at around 4 volts depending on the ohms, so I don't see myself needing any higher volts.

I know it has excellent build quality, durability, failsafes, etc compared to a Twist. But the actual vape is what I'm wondering about.
The Ego Vape is different. The Ego uses PWM without a good filter. The filter is a capacitor that fills in spikes in voltage and makes for a very smooth Vape. The way to tell is that Smoktek dot com sells a Digital Voltage Tester that fits between the Carto/Clearo and the unit. If the tester can read the voltage than you have a good filter or it's not PWM, if it can't than the voltage is spiking and you aren't getting a clean vape. Some prefer the unfiltered PWM because it hits higher than the voltage that it's showing.

The Provari is rock solid precise in the vaping experience. You can check your Cartomizer/Clearomizer and find exactly how many Ohm it actually is running at and compensate by raising or lowering your voltage. The only possibly superior solution would be a Darwin in which you program the Watts and it detects the Ohms of the Cartomizer and adjusts the voltage for you. Me I like a little more manual decision making. In terms of reliability there is nothing that surpasses the Provari. Many units are basically expensive throw aways that will last 1 week to 6 months, the Provari has a 1 year warranty and you can purchase a 2 year warranty for extra.

On the other end if you are looking for a rock solid vape and don't want to pay the big bucks for the Provari, you should check into the Smoktek Smokbox Varicool 3 Amp Version. It won't have the longetivity of the Provari but it's a whole lot less . It lacks the bells and whistles but it vapes like a champion.
 
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A wise man indeed, your grandfather.

One problem. Your grandfather never tried a ProVari. The problem I speak of is that many of us get spoiled, once we try it, and end up buying a 2nd. Or, in some cases (where maybe the wife also vapes), a THIRD :blush:

Because a backup is essential. HOWEVER, what DOES change is that we stop buying $50-$90 devices every month. So it still comes out to be a savings, in the long term. At least it has for me. For others, I cannot speak.

But I'll raise a glass to your grandfather, regardless! :toast:

Yes he was, and I'd give anything for one more day of hanging out in the shop with him, and all the things I took for granted back then. I'm not sure what he would have thought about vaping in general, he was a hard core smoker though, Pall Mall filterless for year and years. I'm sure he would have appreciated the workmanship on some of the devices out there either way though. Thanks to some of the folks here at ECF, I think my last few purchases are going to hold me over for years to come, without having to buy anything but juice.

Thanks for the toast too, he'd sneak off for a snort of whiskey or glass of home made wine now and again. He thought none of us knew, and we never said anything. :D
 

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Yes he was, and I'd give anything for one more day of hanging out in the shop with him, and all the things I took for granted back then. I'm not sure what he would have thought about vaping in general, he was a hard core smoker though, Pall Mall filterless for year and years. I'm sure he would have appreciated the workmanship on some of the devices out there either way though. Thanks to some of the folks here at ECF, I think my last few purchases are going to hold me over for years to come, without having to buy anything but juice.

Thanks for the toast too, he'd sneak off for a snort of whiskey or glass of home made wine now and again. He thought none of us knew, and we never said anything. :D

I knew I like the sound of that man. My kind of guy! ;-)
 

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    The KGO VV is a disposable though, right? Anyone know how long these last? I'm trying to decide on what to start with...I like the features but don't really want a disposable.

    It's not really a disposable like the little ones. A fella on another thread got over a year on his, and I have gotten more. Not a waste of money considering $15 a year.

    Many people with big mods turn the voltage down to the level of the Kgo anyway. They sell tons of ego each year.
     

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    I found the vape to be significantly different, somewhat to my surprise. For my personal combination of juice and carto, the Twist came up woefully short. Hence the sale of them less than two weeks after purchase.

    To be specific, I kept having to constantly adjust the voltage (which I never do with the ProVari), and even then was simply topping out the amp limit. It's important to note though, that I vape 1.6ohm cartos at 4.2volts.

    But everyone is different - this is just me. I've seen others say the vape is close to the same (which is why I purchased them in the first place).

    If you're not pushing as many amps as I am, the Twist is likely a wonderful device. At least based on reviews I've seen here (ECF).

    4.2volts at 1.6ohms, you're rocking out at 11 watts, how is that even possible? That is hotter than haitis.
     

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    4.2volts at 1.6ohms, you're rocking out at 11 watts, how is that even possible? That is hotter than haitis.

    Idunno. It doesn't FEEL that way. My wife's not too far off either (4.0v). It feels, well - perfect, actually. It's what I need, I guess. I have ZERO urge to pick up a ...., if that matters.
     
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