Two questions regarding batteries
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Not a bad connection. If I change my atomizer to the nimbus it works, but the AGA-TD won't. Also the AGA works with a 18350..
I also added another coil and it's at .32 Ω.
It still sounds like a bad connection between the mod and the atty. swapping the atty and having it work fine supports that even more. That being said, I'm not sure if I want to help you get into more trouble than you already are on your own.
Start here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eeper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-i.html
Then here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-ii.html
and here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html
ETA Not trying to be a jerk, but if I help you fix it and you run into a very likely problem, i would feel partially responsible. Please do some homework and understand exactly what you are doing.
Start here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eeper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-i.html
Then here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eper-understanding-mod-batteries-part-ii.html
and here
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected-icr.html
ETA Not trying to be a jerk, but if I help you fix it and you run into a very likely problem, i would feel partially responsible. Please do some homework and understand exactly what you are doing.
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I think it's possible that you're activating the protection circuit in that trustfire. With a low enough resistance in your AGA-TD, you could either be kicking it off line due to high current or low voltage. I feel that this is more likely, seeing as how changing batteries makes everything better.
Apologies if this comes off as harsh, but give those Trustfires to a friend with a flashlight or sell them on eBay. Then get some quality IMR batteries that are better suited to mechs and rebuildables.
Depends on how well-acquainted you are with ohm's law. I don't want to make any assumptions about what you know and don't know about battery safety, but understand that 8.4 volts on that 0.32 ohm coil you spoke of will result in 26.25 amps being delivered to the coil - which is WAY over the upper current limit of ANY 18350 battery.
Result? Yeah, I'm not gonna give you the "You're gonna blow your face off" cliche, but you are risking serious damage to the batteries, and possibly yourself. Don't do it.
.32 ohms with a 3000 mah Trustfire. You are just asking for trouble. That's a protected, icr battery that can't handle anywhere near the amperage you're asking it to provide. You're lucky that the protection built into the battery is working, if it failed and you were able to fire your coil you could be in some serious trouble. You need to research battery safety, know the difference between IMR and ICR, and understand amperage and battery limitations.
I haven't read any of those links and it's likely I won't anytime soon. (I've been up for over 24 hours now) but I know what I'm doing. Calculating amperage and making sure the batteries aren't 'over exerting' and all that. I have 2 efest 18650 2500mah (35A) bad boys coming to me this Sunday so.. CHYEAH. But in the meantime I wanted to know about stacking. What's good, what's bad, is there any good, is it all bad?
Honestly I hate reading old posts. While some knowledge is pure fact and can't be changed there remains a vast sea of fresh knowledge and new understandings... Hence the reason I like to post my questions rather than look them up. I like fresh. Fresh coffee, fresh bread, fresh air, fresh vape mail, etc.
That's exactly what I wanted to know! I'm so tired I can't phrase my questions or thoughts right but I wanted to know of the volts stacked as well (4.2+4.2=8.4 assuming a fresh charge) and from then on I can't find the amperage.
Let me clarify FOR EVERYONE WHO READS THIS: I AM FAMILIAR WITH OHMS LAW. (As of a few hours ago)
Ok good!
And yeah I'm not even using it anymore it's now in my hunting bag lol
EDIT: ^ the Trustfire that is
I just spent the past hour looking at a battery safety blog post thing-a-majig. I am familiar with Li-Mn, Li-Ion, chachacha.
Got er' spotter
Stacking batteries is really unnecessary these days. It's also dangerous. The issue occurs when you inadvertently install two batteries with unequal charges and one reverse charges into the other to equalize the voltages between the two. With protected batteries you hope that the protection circuits will kick out before heating occurs. If it doesn't, you end up with a large bottle rocket in your hands with spewing and possibly an explosion. It happens in seconds and your hope would be that you could throw it away before in explodes in your face.
That's exactly what I wanted to know! I'm so tired I can't phrase my questions or thoughts right but I wanted to know of the volts stacked as well (4.2+4.2=8.4 assuming a fresh charge) and from then on I can't find the amperage.
Let me clarify FOR EVERYONE WHO READS THIS: I AM FAMILIAR WITH OHMS LAW. (As of a few hours ago)
Ok good!
And yeah I'm not even using it anymore it's now in my hunting bag lol
EDIT: ^ the Trustfire that is
Depending on which 18350's you have, you're looking at probably a 6-(maybe) 10 amp rating.
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^ none of this is meant to come off as ignorant or in anyway arseholish
Insomnia.
Me and insomnia are old friends. Or enemies, depending on perspective. I know what you're talking about.
You didn't include the most important information, again. What ohm coil are you running on the AGA-T?
You're using the wrong type of battery to run a rebuildable atomizer. The Trustfire is a protected ICR battery. Yeah, it has a lot of mAh but only has about 2.5 amps. Completely inadequate amperage to run a high-drain atomizer like an RBA. Luckily the protection circuit in the battery kicked in to keep it from exploding. Don't press your luck if that circuit fails.
Trustfires are one of the worse batteries that you could have chosen to use. Read my battery blogs.
You need an IMR battery. High drain, safe chemistry, 10 amps. Something like a red AW IMR battery.
Stacking batteries will provide more volts but not more mAh or battery run time. Mah and amps don't stack, only volts.
There are dangers in stacking batteries if you don't know what you are doing. The minor benefits do not make up for the added danger involved in my opinion. There are specific measures that one must do if they are stacking batteries, which I won't go into because I believe stacking is bad battery practice. Nearly every publication by battery experts advise NOT to stack batteries.
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As long as you follow the common sense rules with the batteries, there are none. Many of us have been using stacked batteries for years without an issue:
1. Always use matched pairs
2. Always rotate which battery goes in first.
3. Use good quality batteries, such as AW's.
With certain APV's stacked batteries provide a more consistent and full potential battery output.
According to PBusardo, based on his load testing, stacked batteries do provide advantages that a single battery does not. You may or may not need those advantages, but many of us can tell the difference in the performance of our APV.
I read the 'marriage' thing... Stacked batteries should be 'purchased together, charged together, used together, never switched out, and never drained below reason'
I added a few obvious things to that list but I know. It's completely safe, if the user is safe. As safe as it gets anyway.
Stacking batteries doubles the voltage, the safe number of amps stays the same as if you had one battery only in there.
So if you stack two Efest IMR 18350 800mah 6.4A batts, you get 8.4V at full charge, 800 mAh and a safe 6.4A max.
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