UK Regulation of E-Cigs - Petition

[Rusty]

Ay Up Everyone,

Please sign up to stop E-Cigs being lumped in with smoking or NRT. vaping is a smoking replacement for most - it is NOT smoking as it is not lit and does not contain tobacco.


UK regulation of electronic cigarettes Petition


Rusty

Also posted in the UK Social Group

 

[deewal]

Ay Up Everyone,

Please sign up to stop E-Cigs being lumped in with smoking or NRT. vaping is a smoking replacement for most - it is NOT smoking as it is not lit and does not contain tobacco.


UK regulation of electronic cigarettes Petition


Rusty

Also posted in the UK Social Group

Who is trying to lump E-cigs in with smoking and NRT in the UK ?
Has someone made some sort of statement to that effect, 'cause if so tell us who and supply us with a link to the Statement or story.

Also posted in the UK Social Group

 

[Rusty]

Use this as a starting point deewal;

eSmoker Blog - Proposed UK legislation changes to include electronic cigarette

 

[Toby]

More info please Rusty!

Actual documents etc.

Hammer it!

Other people, please point out the BS.
e.g. quote -

"The use of e-cigarettes in premises where the law prohibits smoking could well encourage people to smoke, either in the mistaken belief that the law does not apply or is not being enforced, or that the individuals concerned will not be noticed and reported. There is also real potential for public order offences being committed where individuals are approached and asked or told to stop and this is challenged."

 

[Vocalek]

Rusty - Would it help or harm your cause to have Yanks sign your petition?

 

[Toby]

Sign here!

http://www.petitiononline.com/vaping/petition.html

 

[Rusty]

Below is a link to the original letter to the Department of Health from the Local Authorities Coordinators of Regulatory Services, the Trading Standards Institute and The Chartered Institute of Environmental Health;

http://vapersnetwork.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=4


Vocalek - If US members could spread the link to the petition in all known vaping hideyholes, it would be appreciated. I do not think it is necessary for US Vapers to sign the petition at this stage. Thank you for your and CASAA's support.


Rusty

 

[mybitz]

signed.

Also got my doc to sign it, and a couple of nurses at the surgery!

more to follow...

how many signatories are needed before the PM even looks at it?

 

[Toby]

This is the reason a petition was thought to be necessary:

http://vapersnetwork.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=4

And this a letter from the Department of Health:

Dear ****

Thank you for your further email about e-cigarettes.

It may be helpful if I explain the context and the substance of the letter to the Department of Health from the organisations, Local Authorities Coordinators of Regulatory Services, the Trading Standards Institute and The Chartered Institute of Environmental Health.

These organisations wrote to the Department of Health in September 2009 calling for the definition of 'tobacco products' to be reviewed with a view to including e-cigarettes and similar products, or for these products to be regulated by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency in the same way that they currently regulate nicotine delivery systems. They said in their letter:

Whilst Councils can continue to apply the General Product Safety Regulations and other safety legislation to these products, in the interests of consumer protection, it is considered that further products specific controls may be required.

You may be confusing the role of these organisations and the role of local authority trading standards officers. It is local authority trading standards officers who are the statutory enforcement officers for the laws to which you refer, in particular the consumer protection laws. Consumer protection laws are being enforced by local authority trading standards officers and that is why electronic cigarettes which do not conform with the relevant regulations have been removed from sale.

I am afraid that there is nothing further that the Department of Health can say on this matter.

Yours sincerely,
​

 

[Rusty]

Some worrying developments today - check out;

UK Department of Health - think nicotine is tobacco or smoking

I think it is now the time to act!

 

[PlanetScribbles]

I fired this off to the MHRA ...

I quit a 25 year smoking habit on July 28, 2009, using electronic cigarettes. NRT failed miserably, e-cigarettes worked. I am six months tobacco free as of now, having substituted tobacco for an e-cig. I no longer need a ventolin inhaler and I no longer wheeze at night. If the MHRA harms my future health by forcing e-cigs off the market, I shall file civil law suit against the MHRA for infringing my human right to be a non-smoker and endangering my health in the process. I AM SICK OF THIS VENDETTA against electronic cigarettes in the name of big tobacco and big pharma, and I ABSOLUTELY will not have my human rights infringed in the name of protecting big business profits and govt tax revenue. I shall, from now, also take the matter up with my local MP. I will make it my goal in life to fight the MHRA and everything you have shown you stand for. I absolutely want my opinion to be 'on the record'. I want everyone to know how I feel. E-cigarettes are a miracle cure for smoking related illness. That obviously frightens big business interests.

Yeah. I'm bloody angry!

 

[Jackie P]

I absolutely urge everyone to take notice of these recent developments - our rights to vape are threatened by them.

Kate has kindly set up a sub forum on Vapers Network for a UK group here, and there's also discussion about it here.

We really shouldn't be ignoring this, the situation for us could change very quickly.

 

[Rusty]

At work today, I mentioned the developments of 1st Feb and the petition.

My work colleagues have agreed to sign the petition as they have seen how vaping has improved my health, productivity and smell

It is now time to get anyone who has seen a change for the better in us to sign the petition. This can be family, friends, work colleagues, doctors, nurses, postal workers, landlords of our local hostalries, ice cream vendors, grocers, bakers and candlestick makers,,,,,the list is endless

 

[PlanetScribbles]

Luckily, my local MP is Eric Pickles, whom happens to be the chairman of the UK Conservative party. Things will happen when he gets involved, especially with a national election approaching in May
I'll hammer this issue. The tories need all the votes they can get

 

[deewal]

Just posted this in the main forum.

Download this pdf http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?...068577&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased from MLXs: Medicines consultation letters : MHRA
and get as many people especially Doctors if possible to respond.(mine is going to write about my condition ) The more professional people the better but every Vaper in the UK should do it straight away then work through your friends. Talk to your MP's. Remember there is an Election coming up. It cannot be a Medicine if it's in an E-Cig and and a recreational drug if it's in a Cigarette. That is Insanity and Hypocritical to say the least.
This is what it says

"This consultation seeks your views on whether to bring all nicotine containing products (NCPs) – with the exception of tobacco and tobacco products - within the medicines licensing regime. This would require all currently unlicensed NCPs on the market, such as electronic cigarettes containing nicotine and nicotine gels, to apply to the MHRA for a medicines Marketing Authorisation (MA).
The deadline for comments is 4 May 2010. "
Response form for MLX 364

PS. Try not to swear at them in your reply.
I also suggest that all UK Supplier's go through their mailing lists and E-mail them with this information as they don't all red these boards.

 

[centgas]

One more thing, how come the petition isnt the downing st web site? Cant see any other having much effect...

 

[River]

Great job on breaking 1000 sigs. It took what? A few hours?

 

[carstenbn]

Maybe someone in the forum, should contact the media. (Papers, TV etc.) explaning how the goverment (and maybe the tobaccoindustry), wants to get a hole lot of people back to smoking tobacco - instead of vaping the good stuff...

Someone in the forum must have some contacts to some newsmedia....Get a sensation-story out of it, so they will drop the suggestion of banning the healthier alternative....VAPING...

Just my words from denmark (where its illegal to sell nic-juice :-((( )

 

[PlanetScribbles]

Maybe someone in the forum, should contact the media. (Papers, TV etc.) explaning how the goverment (and maybe the tobaccoindustry), wants to get a hole lot of people back to smoking tobacco - instead of vaping the good stuff...

Someone in the forum must have some contacts to some newsmedia....Get a sensation-story out of it, so they will drop the suggestion of banning the healthier alternative....VAPING...

Just my words from denmark (where its illegal to sell nic-juice :-((( )

I have already contacted the Guardian in the UK. Anyone else want to have a go at contacting a politically moderate newspaper?

 

[pigelty]

I signed the petition.

I think the controversy with PV's will be an ongoing problem for years-or at least until another thing comes out.

Hope things work out!