Understanding what it means to have a particular ECig

[PhishGreenLantern]

Hey guys,

So I understand that an ECig is essentially 3 parts:
1) Battery
2) Atomizer
3) Cartridge (with juice and wick material)

So then what exactly defines a particular product. I mean, once my battery is dead (no longer charges) and I'm out of attys, why stick with that particular model? I see that batteries are only 10-20 bucks sometimes. An atty is about the same. And a set of carts is 5 bucks. If that's the case then any base ecig can be bought for around 25 dollars. Of course, I guess, if you buy a PCC and a charger you are a little deeper invested in a specific product.

I guess my question is this. Why would you buy adapters to connect for example a NJOY Pro to a Joye510 atty/cart? Would this be solely to preserve your charging infrastructure and additional batteries? Would you do it because it is a cheaper alternative to buying a Joye510 starter kit?

 

[Rosa]

Performance. I want a great battery and a lot of TH. If that means an eGo battery and KR808 cartos, then I need an adapter. Is that the question?

 

[PhishGreenLantern]

Not exactly. I guess what I'm saying is it seems to me that a particular ecig is really a particular SYSTEM. So a Joye510 isn't an eCig. It's a system of parts that play together. I think you're answering "Why go with a particular system?" But I'm wondering why STAY with a system. Once the battery wears out why not switch to something else and try it. It seems like a lot of people do what the hive mind says. Everybody seems to love the Joye510 but I bought the M40[123]. It's pretty good. I also bought a NJoy Pro from a 7-11. That one hits harder and I actually like it a little more. I'd really love to shop around and try a bunch but I guess that becomes cost prohibitive. I'd end up with a bunch of incompatible chargers, carts, attys, etc...

That's why you stay with one system. Because of the infrastructure that you've purchased; the components of the system. Then you replace the parts when you need to but you stay in the system. It becomes costly to buy the infrastructure for another system.

Does this make sense?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Quite a few of us have tried other PV kits before deciding on staying with one. I think that's what Rosa meant when she said "Performance." I choose a 510 PV because I love my PT, the parts are all interchangeable with my eGo and I'm not spending my day swapping batteries out of a charger. The 501/eGo's are known for their reliability. Together, these things mean performance both mechanically and economically. That just makes sense to me.

 

[Rosa]

For me, I need a much better battery so my choices become more limited and more expensive. If it doesn't stay charged for AT LEAST 8 hours then I don't even want it.

So far none of my batteries or atty's have died but I'm not loyal to one brand or system over the other, so I might be interested in trying something else when the day comes -- as long as it has good reviews. I can't afford to sample a bunch of cheaper models, monetarily or addiction-wise, so I have to stick with the ones that have a lot of recommendations and a history of reliability. That narrows the list quite a bit.

And yes, not made of money so when the time comes I probably will end up buying another model compatible with all the parts I already own. In fact, that's one of the top selling features for my eGo - the parts are readily available, cheap, and come highly recommended.

 

[Sgt.Taz]

Yep, I think it all amounts to performance and cost effective systems. My 510's are great I have probably 11 batteries and the 10 battery at once charger. I love my eGO batts and use them for the duration of my day. Swap to the smaller 510 manuals for trying different flavors or going out to a social function (to blend more without getting crazy looks) I think it's also user preference and I have tried some other systems with mixed results. I like the fact that all my atties work with both batteries and the carts work good for me. I have some cartomizers but like to use the slim flat tips now that I've gotten over my analog psychological faze

 

[cyberwolf]

A lot of it does come down to staying within a particular system for budgetary purposes, but it also has to do with affinity for certain components. For instance, I originally was attracted to the eGo because I knew it worked with the 510 atomizer that I liked best. It's the same reason all the mods I've built have 510 connectors. If I was attracted to a mod that had 901 threads, I'd buy an adapter. Some people also like to use different atomizers regularly but don't want to have a host of different batteries.

Finally, some of this has to do with the history of the e-cig. During the past year, most of the models have benefited from lots of new accessory releases and mods. Not too long ago, if you wanted decent battery life while using a 510 atomizer, one of your best options was to use an adapter on a better battery. Some thing goes if you wanted to use cartomizers, which were pretty much KR808 specific.

 

[deback]

Like Rosa, after discovering that my cheap (but expensive) starter kits sucked, I wanted a better battery. One that would last many more hours than 1/2 hour or an hour before having to recharge the battery. Like so many here, I discovered that an eGo would last all day (and for me, it lasts about 16 hours). Fortunately, the 510 cartomizers that I used with my cheap starter kits are compatible with the eGo. But, if they hadn't been compatible, I would have bought new cartomizers that were compatible with the eGo.

 

[andygee]

Somehow with five brands tried, I don't have a single thing interchangeable! But I have an embouchure for one particular brand; it happens to have a fairly long lasting battery, a wide choice of flavors, and they're very cheap -- but I have to play the customs lottery, so I have some backup brands, one of which is high quality/high cost, one is very good quality, very fast shipping, reasonable cost, and one makes me look like I dropped in from the future.

 

[xg4bx]

I'm an oddity on this board, I have a fondness for the 'lil "name brand" e-cigs. They just work for me and I have a natural inclination to root for the underdog. I've actually "downgraded" to one because the popular models don't do anything for me.

 

[Drozd]

the adapters can also let you try different atties and cartos cheaply...and sticking with one battery...fine tuning each piece of your "system" till you find something that you like alot...

 

[classwife]

LOL...kinda like the black suit......accessorize !!!

I started with the 510. down to 11 batteries. Wanted longer battery life, bought a box mod that uses same atty. Liked the power and time length. Saw the eGo...pretty-pretty. Bought a kit then 9 more batteries, still using 510 atties that I have a stock of.... With concerns about proprietary batteries, bought a ProVape, again 510 connector to use what I have....So I have lots of accessories for my 510 atties. Now, if I want to use another type of atty, I would just buy an adapter for that model to put on any of these...so- really these pretty much can all be somewhat universal ! (I intentionally let this sort of ramble).
Make sense ?

 

[Ghetto_Cowgirl]

I tried most of the models out there but in the end, there really isn't a LOT of different threading types. Maybe..3? 4? I forget. I ended up preferring 510 parts, bought a mod with a 901 thread though because at the time that's what I liked. Now I have a 901-510 adapter permanently placed on it and only use 510 parts.

 

[CooL_SpoT]

I think what it really comes down to is, you're not "locked" into any one particular brand or system. Adapters are out there for almost any batt-atty combo, and they're dirt cheap (like $2-5 ish?). Wanna try KR808 cartos, but you only have 510 batts? Get a 510 batt-KR8 atty adapter. Love your 510 attys, but want the extra life out of the KR8 Batts? Get a KR8 batt-510 atty adapter (or get the 510 mega batt, same mAh). The point is, as calsswife said, PV's have gotten very nearly universal. Find the battery you like, find an atty/carto you like, and get the adapter to make it work.

And if you ever find you've got stuff you don't want, but just can't bring yourself to throw away, check out the Pay It Forward thread and you could very well find yourself getting some juice or equipment you've been really wanting to try out, and you'll likely be helping someone else out by passing on something you weren't going to be using anyway.

 

[crazyhornet]

go for a passthrough, no batteries required