Unflavored Nic Recipe

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This is cool. I never thought of diluting my 100%VG with 20% water. Would distilled water make a difference? Are you using tap water? Probably bottled water? What about FIJI?
Sorry, when I write water or h2o, I mean distilled/demineralized/deionized water...
 

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What the master said, except once in a blue moon I play with less water if I want a different feel. Once in a less frequent blue moon I'll add some PG (20-40%)
This is what I do. I am so used to the flavor and hit it throws off. I am going to try to add a little water as well. Mix it up.
 

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.. Just tried again to use lower water than my standard 80/20 vg/water, which I haden't in quite some time, as the 80/20 just works so good for me, but anyway so I whipped up a quick batch of 90/10 vg/water 3mg, and the vapor to me is maybe a little more dence, not really sure, but I can clearly tell the boiling point isn't as low as before, because it's a much "quiter" vape, as the evaporation isn't as "high-powered" as before(with same watts). It seems a smoother vape with less throathit, and the thing that bothers me the most; the taste is all "muffled up", and I can not e.g. taste the nic anymore. To me, that water really "opens up" the flavor profile, much like e.g. adding water to whiskey or something... Well, maybe a bad analogy, as I guess that is for lowering the alcoholic notes to bring out the more subtle nuances, whereas there's not such with unflavored vaping(alcoholic notes I mean)... Hmm, maybe it's a pretty decent analogy anyway, since it lowers the full-bodied power of the vg, so as to bring out the more subtle nic flavor... I dunno... Point just beeing that I again got satisfied in that I had choosen the right vg/water ratio for my tastes... :)

Edit: after vaping it some more, I can still taste the nic, but it's less pronounced than before, and again everything is muffled up, so its hard to seperate the different nuances percieved of the mix... Not bad at all, but just not as good either...
 
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.. Just tried again to use lower water than my standard 80/20 vg/water,
It seems a smoother vape with less throat hit,

Happy to hear someone agree that water makes the throat hit stronger. I usually get a strange look from people when I mention that point.
 
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Cool :) I also read Kurt state it previously I seem to recall... I'm guessing that the reason beeing, that for any given wattage, the evaporation is done at a higher rate(like boiling a pot of water at e.g. medium vs. hottest setting, not that we apply more heat, but we get the same effect when the boiling point is reduced), meaning more eliquid is vaporised, which likewise means more nic is vaporised, hence, a hightened throat-hit :)
 

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I use 80/20 vg/water

That's what I use.

Lately, I put in a "little" PG, just because it does give some throat hit.

That's new because I have mostly gone to 0% nic now......with some occassional 1.5%-3% nic til I run out of ejuices that have nic (which shouldn't be long now, since AR made it illegal for me to order vendor juice online )

I feel no difference ........ I purposely vaped only 0% in the last few days and didn't have any cravings at all.......as long as I had my vaping. :)
 
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This is cool. I never thought of diluting my 100%VG with 20% water.
Are you absolutely sure and convinced that yours is VG without any water? The VG they sell to vapers is usually diluted already but they do not always declare it.
"Contains 99,5%/99,8%) VG" must not - but may also refer to the purity of the VG they use. I'm just asking - because pure VG is extremely thick, it is difficult even to pour it into a bottle. - The water my European shop dilutes with is called "demineralized".
 

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The nic helps of course, but even at 0 mg VG, you still would get better impact on the throat from the added water. Eater also helps to make the vape more crisp and sharp.
OK :) I personally, only contitute nic as the "provider" of throat-hit myself, which too me is a very distintive and separate "thumb" of the upper back throat, although there of course are other kinds of "throat-irritations" which one could possibly define as throat-hit too, like e.g. some flavors and pg, I just don't myself, though...

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About vg viscosity, then to find out if it's undilluted, then weigh one ml, which according to usp spec, should be within 1.24 and 1.26g/ml... That is at room-temp, about 20/25C... If it's lower, then possibly it's not directly dilluted, but maybe have just absorbed moisture from the atmosphere or something, as vg is highly hygroscopic... I don't really know if that actually would happen in real life, as the vg should then be subjected to air for considerable time, or be subjected to changes in temps before bottling, but just theoretically...
 
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OK :) I personally, only contitute nic as the "provider" of throat-hit myself, which too me is a very distintive and separate "thumb" of the upper back throat, although there of course are other kinds of "throat-irritations" which one could possibly define as throat-hit too,

I can't tell the difference !! :)
 
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Are you absolutely sure and convinced that yours is VG without any water? The VG they sell to vapers is usually diluted already but they do not always declare it.
"Contains 99,5%/99,8%) VG" must not - but may also refer to the purity of the VG they use. I'm just asking - because pure VG is extremely thick, it is difficult even to pour it into a bottle. - The water my European shop dilutes with is called "demineralized".
It's Vaportek VG so not sure other than its thicker than molassess.
 
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