Untapped market. If i were a supplier i would make alot of money, guaranteed!

[t9c]

The Military could certainly see their productivity sharply rise (a HUGE military objective these days) if they did allow on base and active personnel to vape. Some day maybe.

 

[texastumbleweed]

absolutely without a doubt.

The Military could certainly see their productivity sharply rise (a HUGE military objective these days) if they did allow on base and active personnel to vape. Some day maybe.

 

[texastumbleweed]

ha ha totally agree.....and yeah, suppliers need to make ecigs look "tough"...otherwise they wont appeal to the large majority of males in the military. silver bullet, The Chuck, etc, are some that come to mind. what would be cool is to have some ACU skins...camo skins-desert camo esp! and definitely NO LED's.

As a former paratrooper I would have loved the ecig while I was in particularly when sitting around sometimes for hour or more rigged up for a jump. No smoking while around parachutes understandably. Also a no LED mod for at night for tactical reasons plus not destroying your night vision. And yeah in the Army the percentage of smokers or smokeless tobacco users was pretty high. In fact I took up dipping for those times when a cigarette was not allowed or convenient.

I can imagine the military following very closely the FDA though. Which is sad really since the ecig could potentially save the lives or alot of people by getting them off of the mainstream cancer causers.

Plus the irony of carrying a Silver Bullet in an ammo pouch would be priceless.

 

[texastumbleweed]

well, it would not take long for the "word" to get around. if they were strategically sold at kiosks and tobacco stores etc that are in close proximity to military reservations, with high volume of military traffic/shopping e.g. anywhere in Killeen/Harker Heights, TX..where the largest percentage of soldiers stationed at Ft Hood off post, live.............

Not sure the Military magazines would allow E-cigs prompted in them. We get the Navy Navigator in the store and have never seen them advertised. Course I'm not sure anyone has tried. There are places here in town that sell E-cigs, Like 7-11 and the smoke shop, they seem to do well here.

 

[Poke]

Hmm maybe market them first at the military wifes. Then work on more masculine rugged looking models for the active duty people.

Never served myself on a side note did know a portuguese guy who developed a ...... addiction (clean when I met him) from serving in the Portuguese army they were that bored they did drugs lol

 

[texastumbleweed]

VERY wise idea...marketing them at military wives FIRST. that would help "introduce" them into the household. many mil wives smoke. stress of spousal deployments etc. i would try to market them in the military wife magazines (there are a few out there) and maybe buy advertising on the armywives.com website/forum.

Hmm maybe market them first at the military wifes. Then work on more masculine rugged looking models for the active duty people.

Never served myself on a side note did know a portuguese guy who developed a ...... addiction (clean when I met him) from serving in the Portuguese army they were that bored they did drugs lol

 

[rosesense]

There are some nice camo and military type skins available already.

 

[texastumbleweed]

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[Dirtybutts]

I tried selling my husband on this last year and it didnt work out so well..I sent him a few 510's in Iraq for some friends of his and they had a hard time dealing with charging all the time and getting sand in their juice and pretty much everywhere else. Great idea though I must say....

 

[StarsAndBars]

If I were a supplier wanting to make lots of money, i would corner an untapped market-the MILITARY.
There are more smokers in the military than probably any other "sector" in the country. I would advertise in the post newspapers e.g. Fort Hood Sentinel, and also in Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times, Stars & Stripes to outreach military members in the US and overseas and deployed.
Capitalize on the benefits.....no more sticking butts in your ACU pockets (common practice since you cant throw ciggie butts on the ground on military installations), being able to vape in more places, having better lung capacity for PT tests and regular daily PT from not smoking, ecigs without LED are useful in combat zones, vaping on long flights on cargo planes, saving money on laundering your battle dress uniforms etc cuz they dont "stink" with tobacco every day, being able to "vape" in all the motor pools where its strictly "nonsmoking", being able to vape in fire hazard areas-think mechanic shops, aircraft carriers, submarines, confined spaces, on board military aircraft, in nonsmoking govt vehicles and tactical vehicles....come on, the list goes on and on...
man, if i had the money to get into the business, i guarantee i would be very successful in marketing it, and i definitely would be enjoying a larger profit margin than other suppliers because i tapped this market.
you just need to understand military culture, rules and regs, lifestyle, in order to market successfully to this very large sector of our population!!!
not to mention, the active duty military members have a considerable disposable income, thanks to their housing/food/medical already covered for the most part.
oh and by the way, the VA would be another excellent area to tap....go visit any VA and see how many old vets are there smoking outside with their tracheostomies.....and how many are walking around with oxygen tanks with severe COPD and still smoke. i would strategically market to the VA folks, ole retirees/vets....


link to a list of military newspapers/magazines:
http://www.world-newspapers.com/mil...s, or it won't appeal to most blonde females.

 

[texastumbleweed]

im sorry that you were offended...that certainly was not my intention. i am not planning on being a supplier. i already have a job. and if there is anyone who is supportive of the military, it is me-i am former military, and currently work for military and have been married to the military. my apologies.
p.s. i dont vape a pink ecig. i vape a black one. i hunt, i fish, i drive a jacked up 4x4 truck with mudder tires.

The military isn't an untapped market. Its a group of men and women that are willing to die for this country.

For some reason this post just reminds me of this one time. I had a new Private in my squad. This kid didn't know his head from a hole in the ground. The first week he was out of training, he bought this car. It was a POS that he paid twice what it was worth, and got an interest rate higher than I got as a kid in high school. Of course this Private got we he had coming for being uninformed, its part of growing up. I also blame the sleeze ball car salesmen who saw a dumb kid wearing an Army uniform, and took advantage of him because he knew he could.

You remind me of that scum bag car salesman when you refer to the military as an 'untapped market.' I hope your new business plans work out great, you should also check into making an I.Q. booster for blonde females. Be sure to make it pink, with easy to read instructions, or it won't appeal to most blonde females.

 

[THE]

The military isn't an untapped market. Its a group of men and women that are willing to die for this country.

For some reason this post just reminds me of this one time. I had a new Private in my squad. This kid didn't know his head from a hole in the ground. The first week he was out of training, he bought this car. It was a POS that he paid twice what it was worth, and got an interest rate higher than I got as a kid in high school. Of course this Private got we he had coming for being uninformed, its part of growing up. I also blame the sleeze ball car salesmen who saw a dumb kid wearing an Army uniform, and took advantage of him because he knew he could.

You remind me of that scum bag car salesman when you refer to the military as an 'untapped market.' I hope your new business plans work out great, you should also check into making an I.Q. booster for blonde females. Be sure to make it pink, with easy to read instructions, or it won't appeal to most blonde females.

All of her posts seem to me as if they're informed and well thought out. If she were looking for an "untapped market" to sell poisons to, I could understand you taking exception. She's thinking of them being an untapped market for a life saving alternative to cigarettes. And just imagine how having a healthier, stronger, happier group of men would help to further the causes of all branches of our military service!!!

Men good enough to be willing to give their lives for our country are also good enough to not have to give their lives to a burning man made poison stick that won't let go of them!!! They deserve the option of having an alternative!! If they're vaping instead of smoking they'll be able to BREATHE and have much more ENERGY and not have to deal with nicotine swings!! Or die to a stupid burning white stick of chemicals!!

Am I the only one who realizes how ridiculous it is for such strong and good men to die to something so tiny and so purposeless?

As far as the scumbag car salesmen.. a car salesman or any good businessman will accept whatever someone is willing to pay.. I can not fathom saying to someone, "you know what? That is too high of a price. I insist on taking $1000 off of that for you before I'll sell it to you!!" - On that same token on the other side of it, I would not ever take advantage of a naive young buyer, either. I'd never let a serviceman pay a-lot for a car. Most people will. Business is business. People just do not care.

It's not just that type of young idiot, though.

Normal people routinely pay thousands more than a car is worth. They borrow money at interest in order to purchase an initially overpriced liability which depreciates about as quickly as anything possibly can. And let's not forget that it has to be maintained and insured. Many many MANY households in the states spend TWICE what it costs to service their mortgage/maintain their homes combined just on automobile related expenses alone.

As I'm sure that kid learned in his training and in his service, you take a hard knock and look it right square in the eye, you remember it and that particular one is over with. Get enough hard knocks and most will be out of the way. What's more, once you've taken a few, the forthcoming ones will not be as worrisome or affect you as profoundly. If you can manage to not repeat whatever you did to cause them, you usually only have to deal with each one of them one time. That is what separates your winners and your losers. I can't say that I'm on the right side of that fence, but I know it's my own fault!!

I don't think this "dumb blonde" has a malicious bone in her body. And I don't think she is an idiot. I don't believe that she has bad intentions here. I'm sure she's just excited about what e-cigs have done for her (I've seen detailed posts about all of it) and would love for soldiers to have an opportunity to benefit from them.

When you talk about dumb blondes and other stereotypical chauvinistic nonsense, you sound like you're afraid of women.. And that you don't understand them. The modern female is a tough intelligent bad .. The toughest female I've ever known, the toughest person at all I've known is a 5'2/120 little female. She is sharp and fit mentally, physically, emotionally, etc. She's well versed in every fighting style you can imagine. She played rugby. She kickboxed. She's a martial arts expert. She's educated with two sensible degrees. Not art or some other silly stuff. She knows how to use a knife. How to use a gun. She can cook. She's a survivor. I'd bet her heavy and lay odds against any man I know fooling with HER. Hell, she could outwit most men just by having huge breasts. LoL. That is all it would take for most men, HEY I HAVE THESE, game over. She would outsmart you, outfight you, out plan you and leave you standing there with a cartoon style question mark over your head. If you still had one when she was done.

I have a-lot of respect for women. Not for scandalous assed s, but for the real ones. Granted, the average modern day female is a whiny fragile crying lying screaming spoiled annoying MESS that couldn't please a man if she took classes. However, there are many many tough sexy foxy loyal down ... es left out there. And I love them.

Well sorry for being long winded
The end

 

[THE]

im sorry that you were offended...that certainly was not my intention. i am not planning on being a supplier. i already have a job. and if there is anyone who is supportive of the military, it is me-i am former military, and currently work for military and have been married to the military. my apologies.
p.s. i dont vape a pink ecig. i vape a black one. i hunt, i fish, i drive a jacked up 4x4 truck with mudder tires.

Oh really now?
I like what I am reading

You want to go out and play cards some time? How about a kiss? Maybe a hug? Maybe a bigger kiss

What I am trying to say is HI BABY
That is my patented saying - it means I like ya

 

[5cardstud]

There are a few military guys on ecf.

 

[texastumbleweed]

ya mean some men actually like us redneck country tomboy type women?

Oh really now?
I like what I am reading

You want to go out and play cards some time? How about a kiss? Maybe a hug? Maybe a bigger kiss

What I am trying to say is HI BABY
That is my patented saying - it means I like ya

 

[StarsAndBars]

To THE:
The title of the post is "Untapped Market. If I were a supplier I would make a lot of money quaranteed!"

The post goes on to say how she would market e cigs to Soldiers. I can't see how it could be made any more clear.

BTW the comment about the IQ test for dumb blondes was purely for the purpose of making a point, and since it seems to have gone a bit over your head, the intent was to illustrate the ignorance of stereotyping and overgeneralizing, not to support it. Alot of the posts in this thread just get to me when they make reference to having any idea about how a Soldier thinks, or how we are trained. Saying things like you need to make them camo painted mods or most guys in the military won't like them. Reading that kind of crap makes me wonder "Do civilians really think that kind of stuff? really?"

You do realize that Soldiers are already able to purchase e cigs right? They are already able to choose an alternative to smoking without someone stoping by the VA pedling products. You do realize that right?

I should stop here, I disagree with so many things in your post it would take too long to address them all.

 

[bijo]

I don't understand how you got so offended by what she said. She was just saying they should probably get to hear about it.. nothing wrong with what she said .. why are you jumping on her like that dude? Everyone loves the soldiers.. you are not the only one.

Seriously I'm sitting here trying to read WHAT exactly she said that could have bothered / offended / irked you in ANY WAY and I'm just not seeing it.

THE said it perfectly:
She's thinking of them being an untapped market for a life saving alternative to cigarettes. And just imagine how having a healthier, stronger, happier group of men would help to further the causes of all branches of our military service!!!

 

[StarsAndBars]

I don't understand how you got so offended by what she said.

Hmm, did you happen to read the first sentence of her post?

What makes you say I'm 'jumping on' anyone? I'm just telling it like it is. The message of this post was clearly of a profit making perspective, not a patriotic or humanitarian stand point. If you saw it as anything different than that, you simply saw it differently than the way it was ORIGINALLY intended. It isn't my intent to degrade or berate the original poster, this is simply a discussion. I'm sure she may very well be a fine person. I'm sure that she does support the military. The fact remains however that her posts sends the message that she has been sitting around thinking about all the things she believes about Soldiers, and believes she see's a great way to profit from those things.

If the purpose of the original post was in order to state all the benefits the American fighting man and woman could get from quitting smoking, she certainly chose an obscure way to deliver it.

 

[texastumbleweed]

like i already pm'd the forum member who was offended on so many levels by my original post, offering an apology, and also explaining that i am very pro-military, dedicating my career to the troops, having served myself, and been married to the military, i dont know what else to say. i am sorry that it was perceived in this way, and i can see how it can be, if i keep reading it, and i just want to say, once again, that it was certainly NOT my intention. my only intention was to let suppliers know that the military is probably a very good sector of the population to market ecigs to, and how it would benefit them, esp since they are REQUIRED to maintain good physical health, knowing how many smokers there are in the military (and no i am not generalizing-it's true). and yes, of course the military members can order them online too, but FIRST they have to KNOW about them. i cant begin to tell you how many people i run into on a daily basis have practically NO knowledge of them, or very little. many think it's some kind of infomercial junk product.
i am truly sorry, and if this post offends you this much, feel free to report it, so the moderators can just delete the whole thread.

 

[texastumbleweed]

thank you for your support. im glad that not everyone perceived my post in a negative way.

and to quote THE, "I don't think this "dumb blonde" has a malicious bone in her body. And I don't think she is an idiot. I don't believe that she has bad intentions here. I'm sure she's just excited about what e-cigs have done for her (I've seen detailed posts about all of it) and would love for soldiers to have an opportunity to benefit from them."...............EXACTLY. he reads me correctly-no malice or bad intentions here.



and to quote THE:

I don't understand how you got so offended by what she said. She was just saying they should probably get to hear about it.. nothing wrong with what she said .. why are you jumping on her like that dude? Everyone loves the soldiers.. you are not the only one.

Seriously I'm sitting here trying to read WHAT exactly she said that could have bothered / offended / irked you in ANY WAY and I'm just not seeing it.

THE said it perfectly:
She's thinking of them being an untapped market for a life saving alternative to cigarettes. And just imagine how having a healthier, stronger, happier group of men would help to further the causes of all branches of our military service!!!