Upcoming and Incoming - two new products!

[ournature]

very interesting, are the pictures above showing how to refill the big carto?

 

[Mik_Janty]

Hi Mik,
Is it June, the second week of? Or July?
Since this is the second week of June now.
I'm just asking thats all Bro..

Also this isn't the 'Tesla' is it?

I have corrected it now - it is around 2 weeks from this post, so end of June is likely.

And yes these hold 2.5 ml of liquid - and it does show how to refill them in the pictures.

We are not sure about the prices yet, but we will do a launch price that will be very interesting.

No, this is not the tesla - but it has some of the ideas in it (from the earlier versions) - we are working still on the tesla, going in a new direction that could prove interesting, but i wont discuss it anymore, sorry =/ (id like to.. but you know )

 

[dk2]

Why would vapors buy these carts over the telsa?? Going in another direction on the tesla that sounds like starting from square one??? I realize that you can't talk about it Mik but you've got a thread dedicated and now this thread comes out of the blue. Sounds like your trying to get everyone to throw money at Janty to buy these but we're all waiting on the tesla, why would we go ahead and purchase these is the tesla now a year or two out. The other thread was talking end of June. I just don't get it.....

 

[wiscguy]

If that works its about the best innovation in the ecig world ive seen in a loooong time. NICE WORK!!!

 

[Mik_Janty]

Why would vapors buy these carts over the telsa?? Going in another direction on the tesla that sounds like starting from square one??? I realize that you can't talk about it Mik but you've got a thread dedicated and now this thread comes out of the blue. Sounds like your trying to get everyone to throw money at Janty to buy these but we're all waiting on the tesla, why would we go ahead and purchase these is the tesla now a year or two out. The other thread was talking end of June. I just don't get it.....

In the tesla thread, i did post that i cant discuss it, that we might never produce it, and all sorts of caveats. I did that because noone knows what happens in a few months.

And its not like time has been wasted, lots of things have been tried, attempted and thought out - some of them has made their ways onto other products in that process; just like the items here.

Either way, I simply am not allowed to discuss it - but please try to trust us in enough to realize that ofcourse we are trying to do whats best in general. We dont sit around scheming evil plans - if something "negative" as you might perceive this to be, happens, then it happens for a reason.

Anyway, lets get back on track shall we.

 

[nuno]

Hello Mik.
Can we at least know if these new eGo cartomizers have filler (polyfill, or some other kind) or not?

Also, the the large eGo atomizer can take how many drops when dripping?
(Until the flavor starts to decrease, I think you know what I mean...)

Thanks

 

[Mik_Janty]

Hey

For the cartomizers, i cannot discuss this yet - but it will become known soon by various channels ( read, people taking them apart )

For the atomizers, i honestly cant say - i dont have my test model here yet! We are working on having a bunch of test ones shipped out, and once these arrive we will do some videos and post more info!

 

[Switched]

Why would vapors buy these carts over the telsa?? Going in another direction on the tesla that sounds like starting from square one??? I realize that you can't talk about it Mik but you've got a thread dedicated and now this thread comes out of the blue. Sounds like your trying to get everyone to throw money at Janty to buy these but we're all waiting on the tesla, why would we go ahead and purchase these is the tesla now a year or two out. The other thread was talking end of June. I just don't get it.....

It's called marketing

 

[Switched]

My question is why? Besides giving the public what they want now the eGo has become just another battery mod has it not? A proprietary one at that.

510s and KR8s fit the eGo nicely, allowing the eGo to be the eGo.

 

[Mik_Janty]

One customer demands one thing, several tens of thousands of customers demand a variety.

It is really as simple as that - the trick is to balance it all, which can be hard at times.

 

[progg]

In the tesla thread, i did post that i cant discuss it, that we might never produce it, and all sorts of caveats. I did that because noone knows what happens in a few months.

And its not like time has been wasted, lots of things have been tried, attempted and thought out - some of them has made their ways onto other products in that process; just like the items here.

Either way, I simply am not allowed to discuss it - but please try to trust us in enough to realize that ofcourse we are trying to do whats best in general. We dont sit around scheming evil plans - if something "negative" as you might perceive this to be, happens, then it happens for a reason.

Anyway, lets get back on track shall we.

The track is (prospective) customer feedback, eh?
The Ego and snus have kept me off analogs for two months-- appreciate it xoxo, thank you.

Cart performance is THE most frustrating part of the experience. Hope these new products help to alleviate this.

 

[AlexTM]

I'm sorely disappointed with Janty - we had been promised actually useful stuff, like a Tesla and the clip, and the beautiful BabyJ. Instead we get crap like a proprietay atty (exactly like TW did with the Mega) and yet another ***** cartomizer. The later not even coming with "Hey, this one at least won't burn its filling!", so it most likely will do exactly that.

If other people hadn't been affected by it, I would have canceled an order for a few hundred Euros, but rest assured, it's going to be my last one for a long time. You used to be quality, but this just makes you look like TW II.

 

[Switched]

Wow! Low blow Alex but I do know exactly how you feel and understand exactly where you are coming from, and hence support your comment. Perhaps concentrating on improving the lifespan of the "5 battery pack" would be a better investment and an improvement in the right direction.

 

[Mik_Janty]

I'm sorely disappointed with Janty - we had been promised actually useful stuff, like a Tesla and the clip, and the beautiful BabyJ. Instead we get crap like a proprietay atty (exactly like TW did with the Mega) and yet another ***** cartomizer. The later not even coming with "Hey, this one at least won't burn its filling!", so it most likely will do exactly that.

If other people hadn't been affected by it, I would have canceled an order for a few hundred Euros, but rest assured, it's going to be my last one for a long time. You used to be quality, but this just makes you look like TW II.

I think this is an unfair approach to the subject at hand.

Let me explain:

Janty makes alot of high quality products - yes, we have used to, and we will continue to do so. But this does not mean we only can commit ourselves to making those products; We, as so many others in the e-cigarette business have to listen to our customers. And we have a large customer base.

This means that we sometimes are "forced" to put out items that we might not think necessarily adheres to the standard of Janty quality, but items none the less that a certain high amount of people want. In this case the big atomizer, and the big cartomizer, both for the eGo.

Now, - we have just tested this, and we are _NOT_ impressed by it. It is not a bad product, but it is subpar Janty standard as it is now.

This will ofcourse be fixed in the future, but for now our plan has changed;

We are going to sell the first batch of these, CHEAP, and use the feedback on what is wrong, what can be better, and take ideas on it to IMPROVE THE PRODUCT, along with our customers, according TO THEIR feedback.

This - i feel - is the Janty way.

Also, i would like you all to note, that the big ego cartomizer, AND atomizer is NOT a Janty idea. It is a Joyetech idea, and we are mainly selling it, because alot of other people will sell it; And ofcourse because it is developed for our product; The Janty eGo.

I honestly hope this makes sense, and that you can see where we are coming from. We are definately trying our best, and we do feel that we have the commitment to resolve issues as we go along; Just as we feel that the best way of resolving this issue now, is to sell the big atomizers and cartomizers dirt cheap, and then build better ones with the feedback from our customers.

- And as always, I AM listening to your ideas and wishes; sometimes i can do alot, and other times im tied up. but I do listen and try to act accordingly! So dont you lose hope in Janty just yet Alex!

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

Thanks Mik for clarifying Janty's position on the cartomizers and eGo mega atties. To be honest I myself have been waiting for a Janty release of a cartomizer for the eGo(hoping to see one for the Dura soon as well) and will be glad to be a Guinea pig/test subject and evaluate their effectiveness.
In all fairness they will be the first cartomizers I have tried so will only be able to compare to my atties at this time, and the Mega atties don't appeal to me.

All the best and happy Vaping,
Wing

 

[progg]

Now this is what I'm talking about!

Push, pull. Excellent conversation. Not always pretty, but gets the ideas out there. Don't let them get frostbite.

Thank you: AlexTM, fast12345, Mik and Switched.


progg

 

[rickyman]

Mik,

I understand what you are saying and I, for one, am looking forward to trying these out and seeing what I think.

Thanks for all of your hard work!

 

[AlexTM]

The thing is, Janty does not usually sell everything that's on the market, just because somebody might want to buy it. Janty never sold the 510-Mega-Cart, nor flashlights for 510 batteries. Heck, Janty doesn't even sell things in different colours, or at least not all of them, and probably the blue eGos are not particularly worse than the black and steel ones.
Janty always sold quality instead. So these two are quite a departure from the way Janty did business until now. And I don't like that. And many customers won't like it either – they think they buy Janty quality, and they get what probably is not. Hardly good for business.

Add to that the constant "Do we ever get anything that's been announced?" and you have a few not very happy people around.

 

[Switched]

It all boils down to the market is stale. How many PVs should one own. Once you have a 5 or 6V device, that has the capability of using any atomiser or cart, how many more do you need? I only need one and a back up.

When the eGo came along, well there was some innovation. Many did not like the way it looked (myself included). Until I vaped the unit with and without the cone, and we all know which is better don't we.

So now we are moving away from what was a satisfying vape, to be able to vape all day, with a single cart??? Most of us do not vape a single flavour. I do not want to spend a week on a cart the juice goes stale, but hey, it is profitable. If we don't do it, the rest will and there goes our bottom line.

Before the end of next year we will see a 10,000 mAh battery pack, worn on a helmet, with a 60ml bottle of juice constantly feeding an atomiser on a sort of microphone holder that can be easily accessed with no hands, not too dissimilar to the hard hats we seen fitted with a couple of beer cans years ago. How many still use them?

Alex has raised some serious issues. Because the "forum" vaping community is but a small percentage. How many feel the same way and have not been heard or are not as vocal as Alex?

I for one am not too fussy with the new direction and I personally believe that QA/QC has suffered in the process, all for keeping up with the Jones. I am not to fussy neither about vendors that spend months building up hype, having their customers chomping at the bit, for the new product to come out. Yup Capitalism at its best. Janty's marketing strategy has become really transparent in recent months, and not to their advantage.

So with all due respect may I be so bold as to say stop being so cocky and start listening to some of the feedback. I am sure there are more out there that are not as vocal.

This but my opinion, and we know about those...

 

[Mik_Janty]

The thing is, Janty does not usually sell everything that's on the market, just because somebody might want to buy it. Janty never sold the 510-Mega-Cart, nor flashlights for 510 batteries. Heck, Janty doesn't even sell things in different colours, or at least not all of them, and probably the blue eGos are not particularly worse than the black and steel ones.
Janty always sold quality instead. So these two are quite a departure from the way Janty did business until now. And I don't like that. And many customers won't like it either – they think they buy Janty quality, and they get what probably is not. Hardly good for business.

Add to that the constant "Do we ever get anything that's been announced?" and you have a few not very happy people around.

No offense Alex, but I think I know more about why we do what we do, and why we used to do what we did do.

There is a reason behind everything - some of those things I am not at liberty to discuss here. So engaging in a discussion with me about things that i state i cannot discuss, is pointless.

The only thing i can say is that we have our reasons; and this is not like selling mega atomizers, or other stuff that other people has. This is about us being partners with Joye - and if they launch a product that is suited for OUR product, The Janty eGo, and another competitor picks up that product, then we need to be able to offer that product as well. Simple as that.

We are working very hard to correct some wrongs - both of our doing, and of other peoples doings, and in doing so we have chosen to go several alternative routes along the way to our pre-determined goal.

I am sorry that you are upset as a Janty customer, I dont see why though? We have held our promises - we have informed of new possible products, and if those products have been delayed, or are indetermined; Then it was already something we warned might happen when we even briefed about them.

So I am sorry but I do not see our fault here, or your anger. We did not promise you, for instance, the tesla filter. We said we are working on it, and we would hope to release it X time. We then updated - and so on.

I also do not wish to discuss this any further here, seeing as it is quite a bit offtopic - this thread is for the launch of two products; and I feel that you are sidestepping the discussion, which is the products, not the "why, and if's". I do hope however this post gave you some kind of answers.