Update from the noob

[roxynoodle]

Button cover came today, yay!

However I apparently didn't do a very good job wicking my second coil as I had dry hits all day yesterday despite the fact that it seemed to be squonking perfectly. I rewicked last night and made the airhole for the rm2 1/16". Things are going much better today!

How many hits do the rest of you get between squonks? I can definitely get 2 good ones, but the end of the third starts to get dry.

 

[73neb]

For me, two hits is all I can get without dry hits. I can get more if I really stuff it with long tails on the wick.

 

[thewomenfolk]

Button cover came today, yay!

However I apparently didn't do a very good job wicking my second coil as I had dry hits all day yesterday despite the fact that it seemed to be squonking perfectly. I rewicked last night and made the airhole for the rm2 1/16". Things are going much better today!

How many hits do the rest of you get between squonks? I can definitely get 2 good ones, but the end of the third starts to get dry.

Oh no no no no....you can get better than that. I can get between 20 and 25 hits per squonk. I wouldn't vape a mod that couldn't do any better than 2 hits per squonk. It really helped when I started wrapping the left leg of the cotton around the left post and then all the way back under the coil. I also left the right leg of the cotton a little longer and wrapped it back around the right post where it met up with the other leg of cotton about the center of the deck. I firmly believe that using more of the cotton but keeping the hole clear of it is the key. The left end of my coil hovers over the hole about 4 or 5mm. Because there's a lot of cotton on the deck, every once in a while when I get a weak hit I check to see if some of the cotton has started covering the hole. If so, I just push it aside but that doesn't happen very often.

 

[roxynoodle]

Oh no no no no....you can get better than that. I can get between 20 and 25 hits per squonk. I wouldn't vape a mod that couldn't do any better than 2 hits per squonk. It really helped when I started wrapping the left leg of the cotton around the left post and then all the way back under the coil. I also left the right leg of the cotton a little longer and wrapped it back around the right post where it met up with the other leg of cotton about the center of the deck. I firmly believe that using more of the cotton but keeping the hole clear of it is the key. The left end of my coil hovers over the hole about 4 or 5mm. Because there's a lot of cotton on the deck, every once in a while when I get a weak hit I check to see if some of the cotton has started covering the hole. If so, I just push it aside but that doesn't happen very often.

Can you take me a picture?

 

[thewomenfolk]

A picture won't help because by the time you juice up all the cotton it's just one big blob of juicy cotton. Just try to wrap your cotton around like I did and see what happens. Just use about a 3mm width of cotton, if the tails are too long, cut them. Mine are about 1.5 inches long and I don't cut them any shorter than that for this build.

 

[thewomenfolk]

How do you build your RM2, Roxy?

 

[aushizz]

Oh no no no no....you can get better than that. I can get between 20 and 25 hits per squonk. I wouldn't vape a mod that couldn't do any better than 2 hits per squonk. It really helped when I started wrapping the left leg of the cotton around the left post and then all the way back under the coil. I also left the right leg of the cotton a little longer and wrapped it back around the right post where it met up with the other leg of cotton about the center of the deck. I firmly believe that using more of the cotton but keeping the hole clear of it is the key. The left end of my coil hovers over the hole about 4 or 5mm. Because there's a lot of cotton on the deck, every once in a while when I get a weak hit I check to see if some of the cotton has started covering the hole. If so, I just push it aside but that doesn't happen very often.

this is like the Opposite of what is usually preached around here in reoville but nevertheless I'm going to give it a try next build on the RM2

 

[roxynoodle]

How do you build your RM2, Roxy?

I did 8 wraps on a 1/16" bit using 28 guage kanthal. Came to 1.2ohms. I cut the wick ends so they came to the outsides of the posts. Too long? Too short? Put them in the wrong place?

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Try both long and short and decide for yourself what you like better.

Here's the general theory on short tails.

Having long tails and wicking juice off the deck is not required in Reo since we can squonk and saturate the coil and wick. the avg is 3 to 7 hit depending on the size of the coil, with most micro coils getting closer to 3.

The reason a lot of us prefer to squonk more often than have big tails full of juice I because of flavor shift. Big tails and lots of cotton hold on to juice and as you take hit after hit that juice gets heated or cooked and can flavor shift. Plus when you squonk again that extra juice mixes with fresh and then some of the cooked juice drains back into the bottle. This cycle of cooking, mixing and draining is repeated over and over.

When I ran longer tails my clear juice in the bottle would turn amber and flavor shift from the cooked juice. I like subtle flavors and can easily taste the flavor shift, if I was rocking something Pluid it probably would not matter.

Try both decide for yourself.

 

[thewomenfolk]

I think FB is probably right. It's a trade-off, less wick=more squonks for more flavor...or more wick=fewer squonks but less flavor. My build looks like one big juicy mess but I do keep the coil high off the juice hole so it's nice and open. And he's right about trying both. For me, I'd rather not have to squonk so often. My taste buds are probably not as keen as FB's.

So roxy...do try both and let us know what you think.

 

[muzichead]

I'll just place this here... I realize this isn't an RM2, but for any atty on a REO, less is more....

 

[Rule62]

OK...here's my take on the 'Long tails vs short' question. Veteran Reos users please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a brand new Reos user, but a long time dripper on mechanical tube mods.
It's important to remember how a Reos works, as compared to conventional dripping. When you drip in a conventional dripper, the juice only goes 2 places. It's either absorbed by the wick, or else it puddles on the deck, if the wick is fully saturated. The puddle of excess juice, if you happen to over drip, eventually is absorbed by whatever wick is sitting on the deck, and eventually may or may not make it's way to the coil, depending on the efficiency of the wick. At no time though, will partially cooked juice make it's way back into the bottle.
With a Reos, however, the excess juice doesn't sit in a puddle on the deck of the atty. It is sucked back down into the on board bottle, whenever the user releases pressure after the squonk. The partially cooked juice in the wick, that hasn't made it's way to the coil yet, mixes with the fresh juice being squonked, and is sucked back into the bottle, when pressure is released. The more wick is laying on the deck, the more partially cooked juice is there to mix with the fresh juice. The less wick is laying on the deck, the less contaminated the juice in the bottle will become.
Just my hair brained theory though.

 

[pennysmalls]

Roxynoodle are you submerging your wick in juice with each squonk? I'll watch the inside of my RM2 to make sure my wick gets fully submerged, then wait for it to drain, then squonk a second time and wait for it to drain again and that's been working well for me. I can get 7-10 good hits from that. I'm also using readyxwick but I was doing that with cotton as well and getting several hits before needing to squonk again. So you may just need to double check and make sure you're actually getting your wicks soaked super good.

 

[muzichead]

OK...here's my take on the 'Long tails vs short' question. Veteran Reos users please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a brand new Reos user, but a long time dripper on mechanical tube mods.
It's important to remember how a Reos works, as compared to conventional dripping. When you drip in a conventional dripper, the juice only goes 2 places. It's either absorbed by the wick, or else it puddles on the deck, if the wick is fully saturated. The puddle of excess juice, if you happen to over drip, eventually is absorbed by whatever wick is sitting on the deck, and eventually may or may not make it's way to the coil, depending on the efficiency of the wick. At no time though, will partially cooked juice make it's way back into the bottle.
With a Reos, however, the excess juice doesn't sit in a puddle on the deck of the atty. It is sucked back down into the on board bottle, whenever the user releases pressure after the squonk. The partially cooked juice in the wick, that hasn't made it's way to the coil yet, mixes with the fresh juice being squonked, and is sucked back into the bottle, when pressure is released. The more wick is laying on the deck, the more partially cooked juice is there to mix with the fresh juice. The less wick is laying on the deck, the less contaminated the juice in the bottle will become.
Just my hair brained theory though.

Long or short answer is the same....yes... The only exception to this I think would be if you vaped an unflavored liquid!!

 

[Filthy-Beast]

OK...here's my take on the 'Long tails vs short' question. Veteran Reos users please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a brand new Reos user, but a long time dripper on mechanical tube mods.
It's important to remember how a Reos works, as compared to conventional dripping. When you drip in a conventional dripper, the juice only goes 2 places. It's either absorbed by the wick, or else it puddles on the deck, if the wick is fully saturated. The puddle of excess juice, if you happen to over drip, eventually is absorbed by whatever wick is sitting on the deck, and eventually may or may not make it's way to the coil, depending on the efficiency of the wick. At no time though, will partially cooked juice make it's way back into the bottle.
With a Reos, however, the excess juice doesn't sit in a puddle on the deck of the atty. It is sucked back down into the on board bottle, whenever the user releases pressure after the squonk. The partially cooked juice in the wick, that hasn't made it's way to the coil yet, mixes with the fresh juice being squonked, and is sucked back into the bottle, when pressure is released. The more wick is laying on the deck, the more partially cooked juice is there to mix with the fresh juice. The less wick is laying on the deck, the less contaminated the juice in the bottle will become.
Just my hair brained theory though.

Exactly

Long or short answer is the same....yes... The only exception to this I think would be if you vaped an unflavored liquid!!

My clear unflavored will turn amber over time and pickup a slight flavor especially if I've added a bit of Ethyl Maltol to it.

 

[aushizz]

My clear unflavored will turn amber over time and pickup a slight flavor especially if I've added a bit of Ethyl Maltol to it.

I purchased the VG – 5% Ethyl Maltol Solution (PG-free) at nude nicotine with the unflavored liquid.
Ethyl Maltol Solutions (5-15%) - Nude Nicotine
How much do you usually add? (like for one 6ml bottle refill) I figured for $4 I'd give it a try.

 

[Stringer63]

Don't sweat the squonk. It will become second nature and like Super-X has said, it's becomes like unconsciously flicking the ash from a smoke - way back when....

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I purchased the VG – 5% Ethyl Maltol Solution (PG-free) at nude nicotine with the unflavored liquid.
Ethyl Maltol Solutions (5-15%) - Nude Nicotine
How much do you usually add? (like for one 6ml bottle refill) I figured for $4 I'd give it a try.

I do two or three drops for subtle little sweetness

 

[EagleTa2]

I keep my tails short...about 1/8" longer than the coil on each side.

I squonk about every 7 Vapes.... This is with cellucotton in a 1/16 micro coil at .8 ohms

I rewick about every 3 days or when performance drops off.

YMMV...but the cellucotton seems to work great for me....and my juice doesn't get darker or flavor shift

Thanks
Geo

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm using cellucotton as well. Need to rewick today. Was getting 5 or more hits last night. Performance drop today though. Going to try the short tails this time.

I see a lot of people say they've had the sub ohm kit put on their Reos. What is that? If I don't have it, do I need to stay at 1ohm or above?