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Updated!! Pennsylvania: 40% tax = game over for vape

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  1. sonicdsl

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  2. Mrmik

    Mrmik Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    That's where the money will come from..... FINES!
     
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  3. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Yeah... And when the Administration and Enforcement Costs are more then the fines Collected, they can just dream up another Crazy Tax to put on People.

    BTW - Isn't this the State that has some Bell with the words "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants thereof." on it?
     
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  4. oplholik

    oplholik ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah, I guess the meaning has been lost over the years. :(
     
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  5. MikeE3

    MikeE3 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 23, 2011
    Skippack, PA
    Yeah ... but it's cracked! :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Sugar_and_Spice

    Sugar_and_Spice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    between here and there
  7. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    We Definitely Need more Glimmers.

    From the Article you linked to....

    "Sen. Camera Bartolotta’s bill will be similar to a house bill (HB 2342) introduced by Rep. Jeff Wheeland. Both efforts would replace the floor tax and the ongoing 40 percent wholesale tax with a five-cents-per-milliliter tax on all e-liquids."

    Regular Session 2015-2016 House Bill 2342 P.N. 3860

    and...

    "Pennsylvania vapers are also holding a rally at the state capitol in Harrisburg on September 26, 1:00 p.m. at the main rotunda. This is a great chance to show that vapers care about protecting the small businesses that help us all!"
     
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  8. webb

    webb Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
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    Weird isn't litecigusa from PA ? I just bought some stuff from them on BF.Prices very good.
     
  9. zoiDman

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    So-Cal
  10. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    BF?Edit nm, got it now
     
  11. webb

    webb Senior Member ECF Veteran

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  12. blueish

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    Jan 8, 2013
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    Sent my first check in last week. Didnt realize they are charging sales tax on the vapor tax. So, if you make a $100 purchase, you owe 40% of $100 for the vapor tax. Then you also owe 6% of $140 for sales tax. Cheaper than cigs, I'll pay it. Just wish they'd realize that we're vaping to be healthier and not penalize us for it. Almost 4 years cig free now because of vaping...
     
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  13. blueish

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    If they're PA based, did they charge you the vape tax? I heard they can get in trouble if they don't.
     
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  14. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Southbound :)
    "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law."
    -- Frédéric Bastiat
     
  15. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
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    Looks like Litecig doesn't sell to Pa.
     
  16. SteveS45

    SteveS45 Moved On ECF Veteran

    Jan 27, 2016
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    Taxing a tax? That just doesn't seem right!
     
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  17. GBalkam

    GBalkam Super Member

    Apr 29, 2016
    What about mail order by internet? For example, I order from a company based in Arizona. I can't get e-juice due to Canada still not allowing nicotine imports, but that is Customs Canada.. I can order all I want within the country, from Canadian based vendors, just not from the US or overseas. Kidney Puncher offers free shipping over $75.00 I believe. You may still have to pay the sales tax, but I doubt they add the "floor" tax, since they don't have that in Arizona. I'll probably start ordering my DIY flavors from there when I order my wire. LOL God knows, I need more.. only have 800 feet of wire now. LOL. Need some 22ga though.
     
  18. blueish

    blueish Full Member

    Jan 8, 2013
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    I don't know how it works if a PA vendor sells to someone out of the state. We have to report purchases we make from out of state vendors and pay the taxes on that. There's a pretty hefty penalty if we don't report.
     
  19. GBalkam

    GBalkam Super Member

    Apr 29, 2016
    Yeah, but who actually bothers doing it? That's one of those laws that it costs more to enforce than the revenue it would bring in. Can you imagine what a judge would say if the prosecutor had someone in court over $5 in sales tax?
     
  20. webb

    webb Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    East Coast
    No tax and free shipping.But there was a note at checkout saying they would not ship to PA.
     
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