I believe the PA state legislature is actually under Republican control at the moment.
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Updated!! Pennsylvania: 40% tax = game over for vape
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Most politicos are very much "in bed" with big tobacco and have the anti-smoking gestapo banging down their door.
Now, I'm sure we all know that the major tobacco retailers can take the hit of the new tax crap, as it effects both cigarettes and vapes, but the vape industry is still young and has many small "grass roots" companies producing merchandise (mods, juice, etc). The vape industry is also responsible for many people leaving tobacco products behind. This legislation is a soft hit for tobacco and a major blow to Vapes. which is enough to cripple vaping in PA.
Hell, I only started vaping less than a week ago and already I'm dealing with how am i going to afford new mods, coils, subtanks, juice, will my preferred flavors still be available, how far will I need to travel because my local vape shop closed down, etc. obviously law makers in PA are either A: not knowledgeable concerning the vape industry and how it differs from tobacco. and/or B: so funded by the tobacco industry that the destruction of the vaping industry, which cure more people of their smoking addiction than the millions of dollars PA spends in quit smoking assistance, is their actual agenda all along.
Either way, this law is rubbish. it will destroy and industry that is actually helping people.
Better yet, the PA version of the Boston Tea Party.
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Yeah, but the movement is growing. The tavern closest to my house recently banned vaping because "some people complained". This is a little old hotel tavern that dates back to the days of horse and buggy. Also a local Legion, for goodness sake, bans vaping. Love the liberty that was fought for.
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Rossum, your signature sent me to find out what an "anslinger" was and how it may smell. I have no button to "Like" your signature but I do.
Everyone should be aware of Harry Anslinger and the tactics he used because it is a playbook for winning over the masses to a government sanctioned ban.
This has to be one of my favorite quotes from good ole Harry.
"Marijuana is taken by musicians. And I'm not speaking about good musicians, but the jazz type..."
I can just hear him now speaking of the evils of the e-juice and how it will lead us down the path to smoking.
This was from a letter that I received from my congressman.
Congress passed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act in 2009 to help reduce smoking and to keep kids from getting hooked on cigarettes. Since then, big tobacco companies have continued to market products that weren't immediately regulated by this law, including candy flavored e-cigarettes, to millions of kids.
And...
These are important steps, but there's still more work to be done to protect our children's health. The FDA's new rules don't put any limits on the sale of candy or fruit-flavored e-cigarettes, like 'Gummy Bear' or 'Scooby Snacks', which are targeted to children and designed to get them hooked.
As a father and as a Senator, I am urging the FDA to move quickly to get these insidious flavors off the market, and to ban advertising aimed at our children.
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I received the exact same reply letter that I had received when I asked him to support the Cole bill. I think that it was mentioned earlier that the letter was not much more than a crayon drawing of a middle finger. It seemed a bit condescending.
My point was that it seems that many in positions of power are using the Harry Anslinger tactics to make their point. Calling out BT for being responsible for directly targeting children struck a funny note. I will agree that some of the juice suppliers have gotten a bit crazy with naming their juices. But the juice that put put me on the path to quitting smoking was pineapple upside down cake. I guess that juice was targeting people with a sweet tooth.
I just checked the petition...only 789 signature left to reach the goal. I was so hoping that this would have been completed before the end of the weekend.
I use Koh Gen Do and I buy it from their site. Not connected to vaping.
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PA House of Representatives: Amend PA HB 1198 - 40% Vape Tax
If were going to have any chance of getting this 40% prohibition tax changed we will have to stay focused and be heard by our representatives, so please click on the above link and sign the petition.
If were going to have any chance of getting this 40% prohibition tax changed we will have to stay focused and be heard by our representatives, so please click on the above link and sign the petition.
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The weak spot in this law as written is the phrase, "simulates smoking". They do not choose to define this phrase in the definitions section. Looking up "simulate" in a law dictionary provides an explanation that does not apply here.
What is SIMULATE?
To feign, pretend, or counterfeit. To engage, usually with the co-op- peration or connivance of another person, in an act or series of acts, which are apparently transacted in good faith, and intended to be followed by their ordinary legal consequences, but which in reality conceal a fraudulent purpose of the party to gain thereby some advantage to which he is not entitled, or to injure, delay, or defraud others. See Cartwright v. Bamberger,
Law Dictionary: What is SIMULATE? definition of SIMULATE (Black's Law Dictionary)
So, a lay definition must be applied. This opens up a huge vagueness argument.
The devices I use and the substances I use in them no more simulates smoking than a nebulizer. If they apply the tax to nebulizers and the perscription medications that are used in them, I might be on the hook to pay the tax on what I use. If they don't apply the tax to nebulizers, how would I know what I'm using fits the term "simulates smoking".
The weak spot in this law as written is the phrase, "simulates smoking". They do not choose to define this phrase in the definitions section. Looking up "simulate" in a law dictionary provides an explanation that does not apply here.
What is SIMULATE?
To feign, pretend, or counterfeit. To engage, usually with the co-op- peration or connivance of another person, in an act or series of acts, which are apparently transacted in good faith, and intended to be followed by their ordinary legal consequences, but which in reality conceal a fraudulent purpose of the party to gain thereby some advantage to which he is not entitled, or to injure, delay, or defraud others. See Cartwright v. Bamberger,
Law Dictionary: What is SIMULATE? definition of SIMULATE (Black's Law Dictionary)
So, a lay definition must be applied. This opens up a huge vagueness argument.
The devices I use and the substances I use in them no more simulates smoking than a nebulizer. If they apply the tax to nebulizers and the perscription medications that are used in them, I might be on the hook to pay the tax on what I use. If they don't apply the tax to nebulizers, how would I know what I'm using fits the term "simulates smoking".
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How? Just how? Has anyone ever seen packaging that would attract children, in a store full of products you already have to be over a certain age to purchase? Has anyone ever seen owners of candy stores offering children vapes, going "here you go Rusty, try this"? Are they giving vapes away with capri sun now?
And again, I believe in every individual's right to decide whether or not to smoke. I can't really see how vaping would lead to smoking. Maybe if someone who never smoked before started vaping and then became curious of cigarettes and tried it. Maybe they'd stick with it, maybe not. It's their choice.
Interestingly, the Ruyan patents also rely on this definition. I've stated before that "simulate smoking" is a very nebulous phrase indeed.
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