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Upon Further Review.. E-cig Breakdown!

Discussion in 'Health, Safety and Vaping' started by scintar, Apr 9, 2009.

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  1. scintar

    scintar Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2009
    Pinellas Park FL
    Upon Further Review.. E-cig Breakdown

    Ok people, I have found some great info that should be a sticky post here on the forums.
    Most of these e-cigarettes / vaporizers from China come with certifications, CE and ROHS and a large private testing company based in the UK called SGS.

    The link provided is a breakdown of the E-cigs components and contents performed by
    Test company: SGS= SGS group, ITC=ITC group.

    In Short, Beside the nicotine contents the product IS harmless to the human body and leave no trace, vanish instantly, leaving no smell, particles or pollution.
    BOTTOM LINE, PERIOD!

    Oh Did I mention that SGS is the official test company of E-bay...




    There are between 7-11 manufactures of the Electronic cigarettes, cigars and pipes in the Southern China, where most of those devices come from. It is a very open research and development set-up that rules and most of the products come from the same source and therefore the same technology. There is the voice technology technique that makes the atomizers work based on voice, noise, blows, puffs or loud tones – and there are the Air flow technology that only operates on drags on the products. 3 manufacturers are very open for their innovation and are prepared to share their findings and development with us.
    AcceptableChoice have visited 9 factories and evaluated those and their products. From this evaluation set-up a number of research materials, documents, analysis and documents have been available and is the basis for some of the findings in this report.
    In order to debate the products properly, you need to separate the products in the electronic device and the filters with the substance.

    Google keyword search SGS inspection electronic cigarette.
    Link......

    Discuss...............................
     
  2. Smo

    Smo Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 8, 2009
    Italy
    Fantastic read, very reassuring.
     
  3. dc2k08

    dc2k08 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 21, 2008
    .ie
    these CE and ROHS marks cover the device not the liquid. all electronics must carry these marks in order to be sold in Europe and possibly elsewhere as far as I was aware.
     
  4. LaceyUnderall

    LaceyUnderall Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 4, 2008
    USA and Canada
    This is good to see.

    Has someone alerted KDMickey as this was one of the questions Dr. Nitzkin, I believe, asked regarding the hardware?
     
  5. DuneBuggy

    DuneBuggy Senior Member ECF Veteran

    I love reading about the reality.
    But its the perception that threatens us.
     
  6. scintar

    scintar Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2009
    Pinellas Park FL
    Yes the perception of these devices IMO is the problem. At my first thoughts I thought of drug paraphernalia. It is what it is. An alternative niccotine delevery device that delivers a Legal substance. What it looks like should not matter as long as it is safe. These tests show that we are not smoking paint chips, glue ect.
     
  7. malyden

    malyden Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 31, 2008
    OH
    I found this to be extremly informative and helpful - thanks so much for posting
     
  8. taz3cat

    taz3cat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2008
    Port Arthur, Texas
    That was a really good find. I sure hope more people read the whole thing. I answers a lot of questions that everyone is asking.
     
  9. scintar

    scintar Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2009
    Pinellas Park FL
    Yes it answers many questions you see over and over here in the forums.

    It gets a bit tecnical for many to understand but it go's thru all aspects of your e-cig piece by piece and includes a a test in health conditiond regarding the e-liquid filters.
     
  10. Sumratio

    Sumratio Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2009
    Pittsburgh
    thx scintar good find good read ... glad to see more test results pop up
     
  11. deewal

    deewal Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 30, 2008
    In a house.
    Has this been made a Stcky yet ?
    If it has'nt then it should be. If it is not going to be made one then i'll stick the link into my sig.

    This i disagree with. " leaving no smell "
     
  12. exogenesis

    exogenesis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 1, 2009
    UK
    Nice pro-ecig info, but it would be from a supplier wouldn't it.
    But very good to see them making the effort/cost.

    It's mostly about the physical equipment (do I care if ecigs have been EMC tested ?)

    But a bit thin on detail about chemical retesting of the liquid.

    Feeding the liquid to mice, that doesn't relate to well to inhaling the vapourized liquid,
    nice to know it didn't kill the mice though.

    'Apart from the nicotine content, the Products are toxicologically harmless',
    hmmmm, very much so compared to real ciggies I guess.

    'The atomizer has a total lifecycles of 36000 puffs/drags'
    a bit of a generalisation & hides the real-time life-span I felt.

    Still good stuff, especialy the 'safe to vape indoors' conclusion
    (in terms of 'secondary vaping').
     
  13. strayling

    strayling Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 25, 2009
    Seattle, USA
    Yeah, it's a start but by no means definitive.
     
  14. Caesarea

    Caesarea Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2009
    UK
    (snip) There is the voice technology technique that makes the atomizers work based on voice, noise, blows, puffs or loud tones (snip)

    Sorry guys, I just don't understand the why or more accurately the wherefore of this.
    Should I shout at my dead atties???

    Or do the atties play possum in the presence of noise and brutality???

    :confused:



     
  15. exogenesis

    exogenesis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 1, 2009
    UK
    Means the batteries use 'microphone electromagnetic switches'
    which are very sensitive to vibrations, like sound or blowing on the end.
     
  16. Caesarea

    Caesarea Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2009
    UK
    "Means the batteries use 'microphone electromagnetic switches'
    which are very sensitive to vibrations, like sound or blowing on the end."




    Yes Exo, but why use that type of switch?
    Or was it not important to bother avoiding these properties?
     
  17. exogenesis

    exogenesis Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 1, 2009
    UK
    Guess the idea was to produce 'easier to activate' batteries,
    no hard drags to get it going.
    Maybe they just went a bit too far?

    Certainly my Titans (joye510) can stay on longer than I want
    (I think the vibration from sizzle of the liquid can keep them on indefinately).

    The 'banging on a table' method of sorting stuck batteries out
    might cause them to work more reasonably?
     
  18. Caesarea

    Caesarea Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2009
    UK
    Aha, does that work for atties too? I'll ask Walrus to do some drumming with them!

    :D
     
  19. Klimpt

    Klimpt Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Sorry, I'm a bit confused by SGS's involvement here. I see them listed in note 7 below the table, but I cannot find any other mention of them (indeed, I'm not even sure what note 7 actually means).

    I have also done a search for "cigarette" and "E cigarette" at SGS's own site and couldn't find anything. Ditto simply a Google of SGS and ecigs doesn't show anything.

    Could we get some clarification?
     
  20. Klimpt

    Klimpt Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland

    Bump for this question ^^
     
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