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I wonder how many vape shops might get their inventory shipped in via these carriers? Will the regs affect them? I can't imagine vape shops ordering pallets of goods shipped through LTL carriers. Maybe some chains might have a distribution network, but to me it seems that only the tobacco companies would have sufficient supply networks in place.
 

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I wonder how many vape shops might get their inventory shipped in via these carriers? Will the regs affect them? I can't imagine vape shops ordering pallets of goods shipped through LTL carriers. Maybe some chains might have a distribution network, but to me it seems that only the tobacco companies would have sufficient supply networks in place.

AFAIK... These Restrictions are Only for Home/Individual Deliveries.

Not for B2B Shipments.
 

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Do we know yet whether the mail restrictions will include nicotine base? That always seemed to be a grey area in the regs.

All products deemed by the FDA as "tobacco products", whether or not they actually contain tobacco or nicotine, that are not approved by the FDA for sale as a smoking cessation product or for "other therapeutic purposes", are subject to the USPS mail restriction.

Does that include nicotine base sold by vaping- or smoking- or tobacco- related suppliers who sell to end users? Well, if the FDA deemed glass tubes and 0mg tobacco/nicotine free liquid as "tobacco products", then how is 1mg or 100mg nicotine mixed with PG and/or VG exempt from the "tobacco products" classification?

Sounds like a safe bet to me.

Source: Text - S.1253 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Preventing Online Sales of E-Cigarettes to Children Act
SEC. 2. Amendments to the Jenkins Act.
(a) In general.—The Act entitled “An Act to assist States in collecting sales and use taxes on cigarettes”, approved October 19, 1949 (commonly known as the “Jenkins Act”) (15 U.S.C. 375 et seq.), is amended—
(1) in section 1 (15 U.S.C. 375)—​
(A) in paragraph (2)(A)(ii)—
(i) by striking “includes roll-your-own tobacco” and inserting the following: “includes—
“(I) roll-your-own tobacco”;

(ii) in subclause (I), as so designated, by striking the period at the end and inserting “; and”; and

(iii) by adding at the end the following:
“(II) an electronic nicotine delivery system.”;

(B) by redesignating paragraphs (7) through (14) as paragraphs (8) through (15), respectively; and

(C) by inserting after paragraph (6) the following:
“(7) ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEM.—The term ‘electronic nicotine delivery system’—​
“(A) means any electronic device that, through an aerosolized solution, delivers nicotine, flavor, or any other substance to the user inhaling from the device;

“(B) includes—
“(i) an e-cigarette;

“(ii) an e-hookah;

“(iii) an e-cigar;

“(iv) a vape pen;

“(v) an advanced refillable personal vaporizer;

“(vi) an electronic pipe; and

“(vii) any component, liquid, part, or accessory of a device described in subparagraph (A), without regard to whether the component, liquid, part, or accessory is sold separately from the device; and

“(C) does not include a product that is—
“(i) approved by the Food and Drug Administration for—
“(I) sale as a tobacco cessation product; or

“(II) any other therapeutic purpose; and

“(ii) marketed and sold solely for a purpose described in clause (i).”; and

(2) in section 2A(b)(1) (15 U.S.C. 376a(b)(1)), by inserting “NICOTINE/” after “CIGARETTES/”.

(b) Effective date.—This section, and the amendments made by this section, shall take effect on the date that is 90 days after the date of enactment of this Act.​
 
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No Problem ENAUD.

Hope you have you End of the e-Cigarette Glory Days stash complete.
I haven't needed to buy vape stuff for a couple years now, only occasionally get a couple boxes of coils to help out the local shop. ;)
 

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I haven't needed to buy vape stuff for a couple years now, only occasionally get a couple boxes of coils to help out the local shop. ;)

Yeah... I pretty Stock Up as well.

Though I did buy 2 Mods on Friday. Both are a Backup to a Backup's Buckup's Backup.

But Both are the One's I want to Run with till I don't want to Run any more. So what the Heck.
 

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I just ordered a mech mod as an ultimate backup, for when everything else fails and nothing can be had, not on the classies, not "filters" from China, NADA. That gives me two mech mods, one to backup the other.

If you're not already an RDA user, a couple of solid RDAs would be a good backup, too.

Can I ask what mechs you have? I may be in the market for a box mech as I only have tube mechs.
 

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    If you're not already an RDA user, a couple of solid RDAs would be a good backup, too.

    Can I ask what mechs you have? I may be in the market for a box mech as I only have tube mechs.

    Yes, I have an assortment of both RDAs and RTAs, my favorite being the Dead Rabbit. I have a Smok Magneto 2, basic tube mod, and have on order a Vaperz Cloud VCP, a dual series box mod.
     

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    before Trump decided to murder millions of Americans

    You'd be better served taking your non-vape politics and your conspiracy theories to the outside. You will find like minded folk there complete with free* tinfoil hats.
     
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    You'd be better served taking your non-vape politics and your conspiracy theories to the outside. You will find like minded folk there complete with free* tinfoil hats.

    This thread has everything to do with politics. Trump Signs Budget Bill with Vape Mail Ban Included - Vaping360

    No conspiracy theories : 12 Leading Causes of Death in the United States

    Unless you really think after the tobacco ban it will be harder to get your hands on a combustible cigarette then a vape mod?

    I'll edit my previous post to remove his name. I just wanted to know if anyone believes this change will really get enacted this time. Sorry if I offended anyone.
     

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    This thread has everything to do with politics. Trump Signs Budget Bill with Vape Mail Ban Included - Vaping360

    ...

    Funny how a President can appoint an FDA Commissionaire who actually Defended e-Cigarette use. And has Slow Walked potential Negative Policy changes. Or, in Many Cases, just Looked the other way when it came to Enforcement.

    But in the Final Days of a 4 Year Term, with No Viable Options but to Sign a Spending Bill that was Packed Full of Pork, He gets the Blame for the "Murder Millions".

    LOL

    JTBC... I'm Not some MAGA Fan-Boy. Even as a Lifelong Republican, I think Trump has been a cross between a Slow Moving Train Wreck and at times a Raging Dumpster Fire.

    But Slamming Trump for the Current Shipping Bans is Myopic at Best. And Delusional at worse.
     

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    [Name removed] decided to murder millions of Americans,

    When you throw around words like "murder" in regards to Trump (your edit makes no difference), it's like throwing a match on gasoline. It's inflammatory and meant to be. This isn't the place for it. Take it OUTSIDE.
     

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    This thread has everything to do with politics.

    Nope. If you want to do politics take it to Outside. Leave it out of the threads elsewhere on ECF including links to Outside in an attempt to drum up responses there.
     
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