Used up coils burn juice?

[Ou2mame]

I just got a kayfun v4 and I tore it down and sat it in hot soapy water for a while, and then scrubbed it, and then rinsed it, and then cleaned it with grain alcohol. That's how I do all my tanks when new. For the coils, everytime I change the cotton, I clean the deck with a qtip and grain, and then burn it til it's red and do that a few times and then rinse it with water while it's red.. I do that a few times and it comes out shiny.

 

[Puff2K]

I just got a kayfun v4 and I tore it down and sat it in hot soapy water for a while, and then scrubbed it, and then rinsed it, and then cleaned it with grain alcohol. That's how I do all my tanks when new. For the coils, everytime I change the cotton, I clean the deck with a qtip and grain, and then burn it til it's red and do that a few times and then rinse it with water while it's red.. I do that a few times and it comes out shiny.

Sounds good. I'll have to get some alcohol.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

Puff--don't seem to see where you mentioned what tanks you're using.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

Today I discovered one tank wasn't giving me much of a hit no matter what so, although I thought it might be too soon, I decided to replace the coil. Unfortunately before I did I had turned up my MVP 20w to about over 7 and I burned some juice?

After I replaced the coil I indeed began getting good hits again and turned down the MVP. But what can I do to avoid this in the future since some tanks cook better than others and I keep forgetting which levels I have them at.

And how do I get that burnt taste out of the tank? Thanks!

Puff
First I don't see where you mentioned the type of tank (brand) with the problem nor the other tanks you have. Replaceable coils or Rebuildable? What Ohms?
Second, I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. Your coil wasn't giving a good hit so you replaced it and now your getting a burnt taste?
Third, what was the flavor of the juice?
Fourth, its seems like you want advice on how to clean tanks? (Alot of which you've received)

As happen often around these here parts, in our zeal to help other vapors we often times start shotgunning solutions to problems we haven't diagnosed yet.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

Thanks. Do you wash or rinse your tanks with water before using them for the first time? Is it bad for the tank or juice if a little tap water is still in it?

Yes I wash tanks (new or used) in a sonic jewelry cleaner ($20) with tap water and a capful of vinegar.
However you want to wash a new tank thoroughly to remove any residual machining oils that are used during the machining process.

As most tanks these days are made of stainless steel, a little water or soap won't hurt them. But you want to thoroughly rinse them to get that out.
Stainless Steel is used in food processing plant equipment specifically because 1) it won't rust because 2) it has to be washed down with caustic materials daily.

So no a little tap water in your tank is OK but you should be able to dry them completely with a paper towel or hand dryer.

 

[Puff2K]

Puff--don't seem to see where you mentioned what tanks you're using.

Protank 3, sorry about that!

 

[Puff2K]

Puff
First I don't see where you mentioned the type of tank (brand) with the problem nor the other tanks you have. Replaceable coils or Rebuildable? What Ohms?
Second, I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. Your coil wasn't giving a good hit so you replaced it and now your getting a burnt taste?
Third, what was the flavor of the juice?
Fourth, its seems like you want advice on how to clean tanks? (Alot of which you've received)

As happen often around these here parts, in our zeal to help other vapors we often times start shotgunning solutions to problems we haven't diagnosed yet.

Sorry about that! I'm using Kanger Protank 3 tanks and replaceable coils. I'm not sure what ohms - I'll go check.

Edit: 1.8 ohm replaceable coils. Using a MVP 20w and adjusting the power to get a good amount of vapor/ throat hit without being too much and trying to avoid burning the juice.

Oh, flavor of juice - a really nice menthol from Vaporbeast called Ice Box. It has a subtle tobacco flavor but it's mostly menthol. They do their juices at 70vg/30pg and mine is 18 mg nicotine.

 

[Puff2K]

Yes I wash tanks (new or used) in a sonic jewelry cleaner ($20) with tap water and a capful of vinegar.
However you want to wash a new tank thoroughly to remove any residual machining oils that are used during the machining process.

As most tanks these days are made of stainless steel, a little water or soap won't hurt them. But you want to thoroughly rinse them to get that out.
Stainless Steel is used in food processing plant equipment specifically because 1) it won't rust because 2) it has to be washed down with caustic materials daily.

So no a little tap water in your tank is OK but you should be able to dry them completely with a paper towel or hand dryer.

Thank you! I didn't wash the two tanks I received initially because I just wasn't thinking. So ive been vaping on them all this time. Once my additional tanks arrive I'll wash those according to the great instructions here. I'm happy to say that today, for the first time, I actually don't want to smoke. I just want my vapor! I don't know how I'll be feeling later, or tomorrow, but today I can actually see me leaving the analogs behind for good.

 

[DaveP]

Isopropyl alcohol is poisonous to drink and not a good idea for things you vape. Some of it will remain in the wick if you soak the coil head. Ethanol (Everclear or Vodka) is drinkable alcohol made from corn or grain. It's OK to use for cleaning your coils and atomizer parts.

Even better is a good ultrasonic cleaner, but don't waste your money on cheap ones. A good ultrasonic cleaner that will actually shine up metal parts will cost you somewhere around $100, give or take. My Harbor Freight 35w small jewelry cleaner didn't do the job on atomizers and coils. The one below is 160 watts for $84.99 and it gets good ratings for cleaning auto parts and ammunition shells.

http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

Sorry about that! I'm using Kanger Protank 3 tanks and replaceable coils. I'm not sure what ohms - I'll go check.

Edit: 1.8 ohm replaceable coils. Using a MVP 20w and adjusting the power to get a good amount of vapor/ throat hit without being too much and trying to avoid burning the juice.

Oh, flavor of juice - a really nice menthol from Vaporbeast called Ice Box. It has a subtle tobacco flavor but it's mostly menthol. They do their juices at 70vg/30pg and mine is 18 mg nicotine.

Cool.

The PT3 coils come in a variety of resistances--your MVP will only fire down to 1 Ohm--so make sure your using 1 ohm or above.

Been awhile since I used my Protanks but I do believe they still use a silica wick vs. cotton wick. The nice thing about silica is that it is more heat tolerant than cotton. (If you dry fire a cotton wick it's 'adios muchachos' and needs to be replaced). If you cranked up the wattage on the silica while dry it is possible you burnt that silica and will forever and anon have a burnt taste on that coil. Throw it away.

While I have had that happen, I've never had that taste linger on in the tank after replacing the coil. But if that happened, disassemble and clean using a grain alcohol, vodka or distilled vinegar.

You can also clean the coils to get some extra life out them. I used to do this religiously each weekend. I would pull out the coil, soak it in vinegar/water for a couple of hours than carefully "dry burn" them (pulsing the coil til glows) and gently brush off any residual gunk on them with an old toothbrush. However I was vaping a heavy, dark liquid while it sounds like yours is the opposite. I quickly got lazy and just vaped them til death then learnt to rebuild them (I'm a cheapskate). I now have a mix of rebuildable devices and replaceable devices.

If you decide to move on to rebuildables there's some cool stuff out there but the nice thing about the replaceable coils is that you just screw in a new one and go.
It's all about what you want.

Adjust to taste and enjoy.

Sounds like your weening yourself off the smokes (which IMO is the best way to go vs. cold turkey). Don't beat yourself up if you cave occasionally:
Everytime you vape instead of smoke it's a VICTORY!

You will get there.

BTW: I'm was never a menthol guy, but HALO ecigs has a wide variety of menthol varieties. Also a friend of mine tried Johnson Creek Silverthorn menthol and said it was the best menthol she ever tasted.

 

[Puff2K]

Isopropyl alcohol is poisonous to drink and not a good idea for things you vape. Some of it will remain in the wick if you soak the coil head. Ethanol is drinkable alcohol made from corn or grain. It's OK to use for cleaning your coils and atomizer parts.

Even better is a good ultrasonic cleaner, but don't wast your money on cheap ones. A good ultrasonic cleaner that will actually shine up metal parts will cost you somewhere around $100, give or take. My Harbor Freight 35w small jewelry cleaner didn't do the job on atomizers and coils. The one below is 160 watts for $84.99 and it gets good ratings for cleaning auto parts and ammunition shells.

http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html

Thank you! Good info to remember.

 

[Puff2K]

Cool.

The PT3 coils come in a variety of resistances--your MVP will only fire down to 1 Ohm--so make sure your using 1 ohm or above.

Been awhile since I used my Protanks but I do believe they still use a silica wick vs. cotton wick. The nice thing about silica is that it is more heat tolerant than cotton. (If you dry fire a cotton wick it's 'adios muchachos' and needs to be replaced). If you cranked up the wattage on the silica while dry it is possible you burnt that silica and will forever and anon have a burnt taste on that coil. Throw it away.

While I have had that happen, I've never had that taste linger on in the tank after replacing the coil. But if that happened, disassemble and clean using a grain alcohol, vodka or distilled vinegar.

You can also clean the coils to get some extra life out them. I used to do this religiously each weekend. I would pull out the coil, soak it in vinegar/water for a couple of hours than carefully "dry burn" them (pulsing the coil til glows) and gently brush off any residual gunk on them with an old toothbrush. However I was vaping a heavy, dark liquid while it sounds like yours is the opposite. I quickly got lazy and just vaped them til death then learnt to rebuild them (I'm a cheapskate). I now have a mix of rebuildable devices and replaceable devices.

If you decide to move on to rebuildables there's some cool stuff out there but the nice thing about the replaceable coils is that you just screw in a new one and go.
It's all about what you want.

Adjust to taste and enjoy.

Sounds like your weening yourself off the smokes (which IMO is the best way to go vs. cold turkey). Don't beat yourself up if you cave occasionally:
Everytime you vape instead of smoke it's a VICTORY!

You will get there.

BTW: I'm was never a menthol guy, but HALO ecigs has a wide variety of menthol varieties. Also a friend of mine tried Johnson Creek Silverthorn menthol and said it was the best menthol she ever tasted.

Thanks for all this. I'm not sure I'll ever be ready for rebuildables but who knows what the future may bring. I did buy the Halo menthol sample pack and it's on the way, I appreciate these suggestions!