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USPS Banning International Shipments Of Battery Powered Items May 16th

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WolfeReign

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do you mean usps or ups? how would you like to rely on UPS to mail your letters to gramma in another state? (for usa residents).

Umm pardon? seeing as i am Canadian (though i think the government denies my crazy existence), and here we call it UPS. (United Parcel Supply) and USPS (United Stares Parcel Supply).

View attachment 100104 see? i would not make this one up (scouts honor)

For what the USPS does and what it;s revenue source is, they do a damn good job, altho this is an international shipping issue, USPS is being politically sabotaged and in threat of being shut down.

I am not (for once) looking for a heated debate here, and i can see your point of view, but you have to understand that my information is going on what i see in the media such as the well documented UPS (sorry i mean USPS) taking shipments and deliberately breaking them, flipping people off, or spitting at them. More so, seeing as my wife lives in the USA, (another year or sooner and i will be home finally) she does send a lot of packages to me.....and UPS gets a whiff of something that MIGHT be valuable inside...

View attachment 100107 Classic example. Because they fear that i may have what? strapped thermal nuclear bombs the size of a microwave in a 17" x 10" UPS bag?

Think what that would do to millions upon millions who rely on this cheap source of shipping.

Just taking a shot here, but get them to realize there are true cheaper shipping alternatives and use them instead of UPS?

Try buying a $6. atomizer and asking for shipping through anything other than usps....

Greyhound, Postal service, Fed Ex, Puralator, Home penguins, Flying monkeys from the wizard of Oz comes to mind

~edit~ ARGH! why does it always come down to second grade mentality with "well my grammar is better then yours"? this is starting to turn into a huge pet peeve of mine :mad:
 
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Constantine: "Greyhound, Postal service, Fed Ex, Puralator, Home penguins, Flying monkeys from the wizard of Oz comes to mind"

Really?

I've been on ECF for almost 2 years, have literally hundreds of small first class envelopes, empty from buying every accessory, littering my office - i recycle them by pasting a new address on and shipping first class for $3. when i sell something. I live in a rural area, and everyone within 50 miles knows the postal workers by name and face... NEVER has that happened (your radical stories) and I'd wager that for the vast majority it's the same.
And there is NO cheaper alternative.
Unfortunately everything is political; it's what gets the legislation started... good luck with Wall St controling your mail service. Do you know that UPS (yes United Parcel Service, a for profit shipper) uses USPS to deliver its rural envelopes because they won't? (it doesn't PAY big).

Good luck with the flying monkeys.
 

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Constantine: "Greyhound, Postal service, Fed Ex, Puralator, Home penguins, Flying monkeys from the wizard of Oz comes to mind" Really?

Yes, only happens once every ten years, when the stars align right, and Zorba: queen of the amazon toot's....i swear :D

NEVER has that happened (your radical stories) and I'd wager that for the vast majority it's the same.

I was joking, all in humor

And there is NO cheaper alternative. Unfortunately everything is political; it's what gets the legislation started... good luck with Wall St controling your mail service. Do you know that UPS (yes United Parcel Service, a for profit shipper) uses USPS to deliver its rural envelopes because they won't? (it doesn't PAY big).

I will have to get back to you on this one, as we are North of the American border, so it we are for lack of a better word a "internationally" country, though there is only a invisible line, again scouts honor on this....i would not lie....ok maybe fib here and there to steal a jam sandwich, but never lie :laugh:

again, i can see your point of view i really can, and i am sure you can see mine......and that is where you and i can agree to disagree, and not have to start this horse play of trying to flame correct?
 

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COnstantine:again, i can see your point of view i really can, and i am sure you can see mine......and that is where you and i can agree to disagree, and not have to start this horse play of trying to flame correct?"

absolutely, but if you spell usps correctly, then i'm not so sure... haha :) great sig btw... and uh i really don't get your point... i'll have to re read.
 

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but if you spell usps correctly

I have comprehension now! go me! ok, i see where the miscommunication lays ukeman. When you say USPS, are you talking about the mail or the courier?

If you mean mail, we call it Canada post or CP for short. here. Our mail is privately owned -- which means the government runs and operates ours, hence we do not get mail on Saturday. It is nothing like the US, where it is publicly owned (where you get mail service on Saturday)

If you mean courier, literally it is literally called UPS, we no not add the second "s", as they have their own (it is branched really) corporation here in Canada.

This is where the i was getting the wires crossed and did not pick up sooner on what you were saying and where the miscommunication was happening, now i do....hopes this help in the future?

For the Signature, thanks...i got the idea of a moving .giff from one of -- i cannot remember their name...they have the Garfield zer0ith avatar's ....and seeing as i love the anime "wolf rain" (long story short: men and women who have been chosen to save the earth and can change into wolves at will to save us) i thought i would give it a try. Seeing as it was in BBC code....(words like i am writing now) i just highlighted it and said to do a center justification, then rest is what you see here :D just another little secret this magician has revealed :D
 
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I don't want to even think what this would cost with private carriers. I know when I order from Vitacost I can get an order sent for about $15 that costs $45 with UPS, plus whatever fees, plus now I have to pay the tax which doesn't happen with USPS, that can be another 50 bucks or so depending on the size of the order.

Having said that though I don't really buy batteries, some day the one in my Darwin will wear out and I guess I will have to send it in to be replaced, I'm not sure what this will add to the cost or whether they will pick it up, it's never good news to see something like this.

The worst of it is that sites in the U.S. aren't going to probably bother with non USPS options if they don't have them now. So that limits our choice regardless.

We have become completely paranoid when it comes to air transportation and the jackass terrorists are laughing at us. The actual terrorist events are nothing compared to the cost and inconvenience running in the trillions of dollars that they ultimately cost us, or rather, we ultimately cost ourselves.
 

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...We have become completely paranoid when it comes to air transportation and the jackass terrorists are laughing at us. The actual terrorist events are nothing compared to the cost and inconvenience running in the trillions of dollars that they ultimately cost us, or rather, we ultimately cost ourselves.

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This. A terrorist's goal is to beget terror, and these kinds of restrictive regulations and laws are a direct consequence of that terror. Ergo, the terrorists have won.

I remember being treated like a terrorist going through airport security back in 2006, being told flat-out that if we didn't make our year-and-a-few-months-old daughter drink from each of the bottles of milk we'd packed for her, in front of the security guard, we wouldn't be able to get on the plane. It was almost enough for me to throw away the almost thousand dollars we'd spent on airfare and walk away. I made a point of asking the guard if he realized how much of a farce this was, and got the whole "but it's the rules" garbage in reply. I think I also had to demonstrate my Crest Spinbrush I'd packed in my carry-on to the X-ray technician. That may have been a different trip, however.

If government organizations are jumping at shadows FIVE YEARS after an incident (not to take away from how tragic it was or anything, but seriously, c'mon! FIVE years!), and restricting the rights of their citizens to be treated as human beings rather than criminals (I'm not even going to bring up rights to privacy, whole 'nother can of worms there.) then you know that terror has siezed hold of them by the unmentionables and squeezed.

Yes, I know they've relaxed those rules somewhat since then, but it's been only to replace them with other intrusive and restrictive measures. And you know what the sad part is? A determined enough individual will always find ways to circumvent the safeguards.

The terrorists are still winning, and they don't have to lift a finger to do it.

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This. A terrorist's goal is to beget terror, and these kinds of restrictive regulations and laws are a direct consequence of that terror. Ergo, the terrorists have won.

I remember being treated like a terrorist going through airport security back in 2006, being told flat-out that if we didn't make our year-and-a-few-months-old daughter drink from each of the bottles of milk we'd packed for her, in front of the security guard, we wouldn't be able to get on the plane. It was almost enough for me to throw away the almost thousand dollars we'd spent on airfare and walk away. I made a point of asking the guard if he realized how much of a farce this was, and got the whole "but it's the rules" garbage in reply. I think I also had to demonstrate my Crest Spinbrush I'd packed in my carry-on to the X-ray technician. That may have been a different trip, however.

If government organizations are jumping at shadows FIVE YEARS after an incident (not to take away from how tragic it was or anything, but seriously, c'mon! FIVE years!), and restricting the rights of their citizens to be treated as human beings rather than criminals (I'm not even going to bring up rights to privacy, whole 'nother can of worms there.) then you know that terror has siezed hold of them by the unmentionables and squeezed.

Yes, I know they've relaxed those rules somewhat since then, but it's been only to replace them with other intrusive and restrictive measures. And you know what the sad part is? A determined enough individual will always find ways to circumvent the safeguards.

The terrorists are still winning, and they don't have to lift a finger to do it.

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Did they ask you to test/demonstrate your condoms as well? :lol:

It is ridiculous how extreme they take something's
 

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I am wondering if maybe someone got the facts wrong . In Canada you can not ship items with the batteries in the item they must be separated but if you misunderstood what that meant you could think that you can not ship battery operated items at all when it just means that you must take the batteries out of the item before you ship it .
 

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I am wondering if maybe someone got the facts wrong . In Canada you can not ship items with the batteries in the item they must be separated but if you misunderstood what that meant you could think that you can not ship battery operated items at all when it just means that you must take the batteries out of the item before you ship it .

So technically you can't ship an iphone with CP? Cause it's not really practical to remove the battery...
 

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I am wondering if maybe someone got the facts wrong . In Canada you can not ship items with the batteries in the item they must be separated but if you misunderstood what that meant you could think that you can not ship battery operated items at all when it just means that you must take the batteries out of the item before you ship it .

Did you read the article? Clearly not.
 

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There's been regulations on shipping batteries in place for a long time, just never enforced. I was bringing in tons of lipos from china for my rc hobby. I had a package opened by customs and it made it through. they knew it was a box of high voltage lipos and never did diddly. just a knee jerk gov't reaction to the exploding battery incident that garnered news status.
 
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