Uwell Crown Temp Control HELP

[stmagnus]

Hello, i am new to the forums and the vaping scene.

I vaped 1 year ago, and i did enjoy sub ohm vaping alot, so i bought myself this gear yesterday:
istick 100w tc
uwell crown with 5 extra prebuild 0.5 coils SS
always using 0.5 for my uwell crown

my question is, i have heard alot of people saying u can get a bit better flavour off TC, with right settings. i need help configuring it on my setup!

I have never used temp control, this is my first mod supporting it,
and i need help setting it up just right so i can try it out for the first time

right now im vaping in wattage mode 37,5 watts.

I dont even know the istick 100wTC's menu system, except wattage down and wattage up and chaning temp control mode.

no idea what the "F" means when im in SS temp control

 

[Douggro]

AFAIK, the .5Ω coils are NOT temp control capable..

 

[stmagnus]

ah ok then. new me thx for the headsup

 

[Clydde26]

You can use the .5 coils in SS temp mode. Once you get into SS TC mode the F is Fahrenheit. That is what max temp you want the coil to stay at. Depending on whether you like a warm vape or a cooler vape then that is where you adjust that number to. I would recommend starting around 375 and see how that vapes for you and gradually increase the temp in increments of 5 degrees. I wouldnt go over 450. If your device still allows you to set the wattage while in temp control mode then that is the ramp up time. So that would be how quickly you would want the coil to reach that desired temp. I would probably start at 35 and work up in increments of 5 as well.... i wouldnt go over 50 watts. Hope this helps.

 

[Clydde26]

Once you fiddle around with tc and get comfortable with it then you can explore different temps and wattages to dial in your perfect vape. Remember the goal of TC is to reduce dry/burnt hits. So if you feel your device is not powering when you are trying to take a pull or it piddles out during your draw...that is due to the device limiting the power to the coil to reduce your risk of getting a burnt hit. If you find that you are reaching temp protect upon firing then you will have to up your temp higher in order to get the device to fire....however cotton burns at 410 degrees dry so you will be upping the temp thus nullifying the reasoning behind TC in the first place

 

[DarrellG]

Just wanted to jump in here because I'm having trouble wrapping my head around some of this as well. I've heard a lot of conflicting info.

Isn't it true that the crown heads have nickel leads (I'm assuming that's what Douggro was referring to), which would throw off the accuracy of TC readings for SS?

I was told to just use the Crown heads (.25) in wattage mode on my eVic Mini. Is this the way to go?
Is there any danger to using them in Temp SS316 mode?

Appreciate any input.

 

[Douggro]

Just wanted to jump in here because I'm having trouble wrapping my head around some of this as well. I've heard a lot of conflicting info.

Isn't it true that the crown heads have nickel leads (I'm assuming that's what Douggro was referring to), which would throw off the accuracy of TC readings for SS?

I was told to just use the Crown heads (.25) in wattage mode on my eVic Mini. Is this the way to go?
Is there any danger to using them in Temp SS316 mode?

Appreciate any input.

I'm curious now as well. I did some brief checking and Uwell says the .25 and .5Ω coils are SS wire but only indicate the .15Ω Ni coil for TC use. Nor did I find any info on the grade of SS used in the other coils.

 

[Clydde26]

They are standard 316 stainless steel not 316l. As i stated in my earlier post they can be used in Temp control. The premise behind temp control is to limit dry/burnt hits...its not a miracle end all be all. Keep in mind that most mods with ss temp control are set up for 316l ss. So the temp coefficient is different. It is still a more effective way to limit dry hits than vaping with wattage alone. The difference in the TCR settings of 316 and 316L is approximately 4 points which means that the crown coils will vape a little hotter using the TC function. This can be countered by dialing your temp back some then you would normally vape at... so if you were shooting for a 400 degree vape 385 is closer to your mark with the crown coils. Now if your mod has the ability to set TCR then you have nothing to worry about you can just dial in the correct coefficient and vape away.

 

[Douggro]

They are standard 316 stainless steel not 316l.

Not that I don't believe you, but are there any sources you can point to for corroboration on this?

 

[Clydde26]

Box of Replacement coils for Uwell Crown Tank, four pack

 

[Douggro]

Box of Replacement coils for Uwell Crown Tank, four pack

mmmmmm......

 

[Clydde26]

Uwell Crown Replacement Coils or RBA Coils

 

[Douggro]

Uwell Crown Replacement Coils or RBA Coils

"Standard coils are made of SUS316 D-Grade Stainless Steel Heating Wire and 100% Japanese organic cotton. Temperature Control coils are made with pure Ni200 Nickel wire."

 

[Clydde26]

Uwell Crown Sub Ohm Tank Atomizer - Naked Vapour

 

[DarrellG]

So the issue of nickel leads, an actual issue or not?
It seems pretty clear they UWELL doesn't intend the SS coils to be used in TC modes. They offer the nickel .15 exclusively for TC. That is as clear as day on the packaging.
Yet I've seen so many people claim to use these SS coils in TC.
How could the temp readings be accurate?

EDIT - above post posted while i was typing. Checking it now.

 

[Douggro]

Uwell Crown Sub Ohm Tank Atomizer - Naked Vapour

Second verse, same as the first.
Yes, SS can be used for TC. But they (Uwell) are not specifically saying that the "standard" coils are made for it - just the Ni coils.

 

[Clydde26]

Yes you are not realizing that SS temp control has just hit the market within the past 6 months....Mainstream anyways..... If you had a Dna device you could dial in the Coefficients for SS and Temp Control with it but now that SS is being offered on mods it SS coils are now TC coils. If your device has SS temp control Capability it can use SS coils in temp control mode.... IF your device has TCR manipulation you can vape Crown coils in Temp Control Mode.... Im failing to realize what the argument we are having here is about? Is it will they work....are they reliable? Or is it that can you Put it on SS mode vape it at 400 degrees and absolutely guarantee that there will not be a burnt hit. Where exactly is the debate? I honestly dont know what I am lobbying for at this point. I have a crown tank... I have an RX200... I use the crown standard coils in SS temp control mode all the time... No issues. So are you calling me out as giving false information due to you not believing it is possible...or that it isnt as reliable as say using Titanium or Ni200?

 

[Clydde26]

Herakles Plus SS316L coils arent listed as being TC coils either...But i use them in SS temp mode as well. So because the manufacturer doesnt specifically say hey this is usable in temp mode...then its not? I can use a kanthal coil in temp mode... All i have to do is twist it with a ni200 wire. Current follows the ni200 lead and allows me to vape it in TC mode. No burnt hits...different type of vape...not my favorite... but doable and done.... is it advocated? By some yes....but doesnt make it wrong or right..... TC is a preference to dial in a more satisfying vape and reduce burnt/dry hits... If you achieve that then that is all that matters.... Can it also be achieved in Power mode.... with stainless steel of course.... Stainless is the first wire to hit the market that can now be used on both power and tc without risky health effects.

 

[Clydde26]

Second verse, same as the first.
Yes, SS can be used for TC. But they (Uwell) are not specifically saying that the "standard" coils are made for it - just the Ni coils.

So now your going back on your original statement and saying AFAYK Uwell isnt advocating using their regular SS coils for TC mode not that of AFAYK they arent capable of being used in TC mode?

 

[DarrellG]

Maybe I'm just seriously sleep deprived, it's 12:30am here.
I'm just gonna toss 2 simple questions into the discussion (not a debate) and check back in the morning.

The standard Crown SS heads are SS316. Groovy.
1. Is it true that the leads are nickel?
2. Would this in any way mess up the readings on the SS316 TC setting on my eVic Mini?

The nickel leads issue has been my question all along, and as I admitted, I might just be a bit loopy at the moment, but I don't think it's been addressed.

Thanks.