VAMO From FastTech

[Zion21]

Just ordered mine now. Takes almost 3 weeks for fast tech to get to me though.

 

[thefullhonkey]

The difference is you have someone who's local who depends on people like us to stay in business. Yes, it's going to be more expensive as the overhead is completely different than an online store. But you also get the satisfaction of getting it now as well as supporting a local business.

What I don't get is the crying that happens when the local vendor folds because people preferred to spend online instead and they can't get something immediately because theirs broke.

I agree we should support the local economy whenever possible but your opinion would change if you went in any of MY local vape shops. these jerks need to be sent home for what they charge, if you want to argue go ahead but 10 bucks for a ce4 clearo? really? and 15 bucks for 10ml juice? supporting locals and being bent over are far different things around here lol.

I try to take a balanced approach. My local B&M was incredibly helpful in getting me started, so if they have something I need in stock, I'll show loyalty by geting it there. Their prices are definitely a bit higher than online, but are still reasonable considering the additional overhead that comes with having a storefront.

However, for things that I just can't get through them, I have no issues ordering online

 

[Ref Minor]

I'm glad you're happy with your gear and will be vaping away like a dragon! Let's just hope your charger doesn't have a problem.

If it does, there is a 6month warranty and a US returns address since he got it from FT. So unless he bought it from his local B&M there isn't much difference if it goes wrong.

 

[footbag]

Personally, If I had a local e-cig shop, I'd buy everything from them. As it is, I try and buy from my most local shop which happens to be Litecigusa.

I posted on this forum about looking for a good vw/vv device. Someone just posted a link to Fastech. I looked for one from the forums vendors, but they were either out of stock or I missed them, so I bought it from Fastech. I received it after a week, and screwed the Vivi Nova on and it wouldn't fire. I had to fiddle with it to get it to work out of the box. Then, I just got a horrible burnt taste.

I later read that Fastechs coils for the VN are notoriously bad. I wish I had read that in advance, because I had just about given up on the VN. Now, I'm spending $ trying to get these VN's working. More then I would've buying it from the USA.

I've found that with product quality, if you are willing to lower your expectations enough, you can get everyhting you want. If we lower our expectations enough, Chinese customer service and product inconsistency may seem reasonable, even good. Is that a good thing? Well, it can save you money. You may have a bunch of scrap metal parts sitting on your desk, but you saved money, right?

 

[Ref Minor]

Personally, If I had a local e-cig shop, I'd buy everything from them. As it is, I try and buy from my most local shop which happens to be Litecigusa.

I posted on this forum about looking for a good vw/vv device. Someone just posted a link to Fastech. I looked for one from the forums vendors, but they were either out of stock or I missed them, so I bought it from Fastech. I received it after a week, and screwed the Vivi Nova on and it wouldn't fire. I had to fiddle with it to get it to work out of the box. Then, I just got a horrible burnt taste.

I later read that Fastechs coils for the VN are notoriously bad. I wish I had read that in advance, because I had just about given up on the VN. Now, I'm spending $ trying to get these VN's working. More then I would've buying it from the USA.

I've found that with product quality, if you are willing to lower your expectations enough, you can get everyhting you want. If we lower our expectations enough, Chinese customer service and product inconsistency may seem reasonable, even good. Is that a good thing? Well, it can save you money. You may have a bunch of scrap metal parts sitting on your desk, but you saved money, right?

You do realise you could have opened a ticket and reported the VN as DOA and they would have sent you a new one?

 

[footbag]

You do realise you could have opened a ticket and reported the VN as DOA and they would have sent you a new one?

I got it working after fiddling for a few minutes. To be honest, I though I was doing something wrong. But it wasn't just the pin, it was also the coil. It also seems like most of their VN's have similar problems. Now that it's working, it just isn't working well. I don't mind learning how they work, but I don't like having to learn how they work. It did take me longer then 5 days to figure out they are just poor quality.

I don't need to wait for something to go back and forth to China. I didn't order it from there because it was cheaper, and I don't mind paying a bit more to both support USA vendors and get the piece of mind.

I'll use my children's toy example. I have a 3 year old. All the toys he gets as gifts are crappy plastic Chinese made toys. I'd say half of them work out of the box. The other need to be fixed, glued or rewired right out of the box. I rarely return them, they typically hit the landfill. I also buy him older used Tonka trucks on E-Bay. They never break, cost less, were USA made and are nice to look at. But, they aren't making the good Tonka trucks anymore. They're all crappy Chinese plastic, now. I miss the old days of making stuff better.

 

[BostonJim]

I hope you got the ss finish. I got the black chrome - oh oops! The finish wore off down one side in under a month.

I kind of hope my finish wears a little, I like the used look. Funny story, My wife and I were in the mall one day, we walked past a guy cleaning shoes. She says “ You should have your sneakers cleaned”. And the guy that was cleaning shoes says “ He’s white, he’s never going to get them cleaned Ma’am”. Me and the cleaner laughed, and my wife still don’t understand. Us old white guys like the used look.

The difference is you have someone who's local who depends on people like us to stay in business. Yes, it's going to be more expensive as the overhead is completely different than an online store. But you also get the satisfaction of getting it now as well as supporting a local business.

I don’t buy hardware that often, so when I do I shop around for a good price, both online and at B&M’s. I live in Las Vegas and have a lot of vape shops that offer a large variety of juice flavors price competitively so I buy most of my juice locally.

 

[vjc0628]

I got the SS vamo 3 with nitcore charger and panni batts through fasttec as well

and its been great everything I expected it to be

as far as what I can see its the best value for 1st mod you can get under $100

I don't think I would waste any time on the in-betweens

Next I plan on getting a provari in dec after my busy season

If I am going to spend more then the $56 I did I want the warranty service and performance of the best

Later on if I get into Rebuildables will probably get a Reo

 

[Mike Sheda]

and my wife still don’t understand. Us old white guys like the used look.

your wife should be happy of that!
(just saying)

 

[mare ze dotes]

I am traveling home in a few month. I will go to my first B&M that that I found on the net in Green Bay. They want $8 for a CE4. Not going to do it. I might end up only getting some juice. I do want to buy something, but I wont be getting any hardware. I can say that I got a few cheepie egos from fast tech. And they are OK as back ups. But wen my trusted Joytechs meet their maker I will buy genuine again.

 

[Ref Minor]

I'll use my children's toy example. I have a 3 year old. All the toys he gets as gifts are crappy plastic Chinese made toys. I'd say half of them work out of the box. The other need to be fixed, glued or rewired right out of the box. I rarely return them, they typically hit the landfill. I also buy him older used Tonka trucks on E-Bay. They never break, cost less, were USA made and are nice to look at. But, they aren't making the good Tonka trucks anymore. They're all crappy Chinese plastic, now. I miss the old days of making stuff better.

Now that's a different argument, like comparing apples and oranges. You can still buy solid well made stuff, if you are willing spend the money for hand crafted stuff. No one makes anyone buy the cheaper stuff, it's a value judgement for each consumer.

 

[footbag]

Now that's a different argument, like comparing apples and oranges. You can still buy solid well made stuff, if you are willing spend the money for hand crafted stuff. No one makes anyone buy the cheaper stuff, it's a value judgement for each consumer.

I sell high-end hand crafted products including some children's toys. Over the last 20 years in business, the quality and the number of companies selling that quality has dropped significantly. Buying has become very difficult. The reason is that production is going to China, not because they can make it better, but because they can make it cheaper. Even the German companies that were known for their quality have moved production to China.

I will pay more for better quality, but I have to be able to find it. It's getting harder and harder to find the better product, and much of it is well marketed, poor quality Chinese junk. My job is sorting the good stuff from the junk.

I'm not blaming the Chinese, either. It's the American companies that think they can make more money by not manufacturing it. The thinking is that they engineer it here, and send the CAD drawings over to China. Well, I've seen companies go out of business because they bought a whole lot of widgets that didn't quite work as specified. And the manufacturer's don't care.

 

[rnln]

same thought here. If you can afford it, get American made to support our economy and have quality products. If you just can't afford it and are not in a hurry, get cheap china made anywhere online to save. Buying cheap china made locally is still supporting china anyway, and pay a lot more.

 

[volume control]

Isnt there like a 90000 page thread praising fasttech already?

 

[Ref Minor]

Isnt there like a 90000 page thread praising fasttech already?

This one will be moved to the FT subforum before too long.

 

[BostonJim]

I'll use my children's toy example. I have a 3 year old. All the toys he gets as gifts are crappy plastic Chinese made toys. I'd say half of them work out of the box. The other need to be fixed, glued or rewired right out of the box. I rarely return them, they typically hit the landfill. I also buy him older used Tonka trucks on E-Bay. They never break, cost less, were USA made and are nice to look at. But, they aren't making the good Tonka trucks anymore. They're all crappy Chinese plastic, now. I miss the old days of making stuff better.

In todays day and age, things just aren't made the same as they used to be. Using your Tonka example, Tonka trucks were much better made years ago when I was a kid back in the early 70's. They were made of steel and could take a bigger beating than the real thing. Today they're made with a lot of plastic and are not as durable. Its the society we live in. All of us buy cheap disposable over expensive long lasting stuff. Look around your home and ask yourself what do I have that i would spend the time to repair instead of throwing it away and buying new?


And to whoever posted. My wife is more beautifull now, than when I met her. Me on the other hand....

 

[Glen Snyder]

I'm planning on getting a VAMO next month, will get it from a local vendor if it's priced reasonably. As long as the markup isn't too bad, I like to support B&Ms - the instant gratification is a perk, too.

Something to think about...What kind of warranty are you going to get from your local B & M on a Vamo? I know around here it's 30 days. At FastTech it's 6 months. Not trying to change your mind, just want people to see the whole picture

 

[StacyInOkla]

I was thinking about getting a Vamo from Fasttech until I saw the purple one at Smokteck. I try to split my purchases between the local shop and online. The local stores pretty cool. When I mentioned waiting for them to get the Protank 2 they said they weren't planning on carrying it cause not many people want to pay for glass. Then they told me a few places online I could go to get it.
Things like that are the reason they'll always get some of my business and I'll refer new vapers there all day.

 

[NiburianElf]

So the VAMO from fasttech is the same exact thing? Just curious, does fasttech sell knock offs?

How is the VAMO going, still going well?

I am seriously considering this because the price can't be beat, I do not mind the wait.

 

[MrSelf Destruct]

The difference is you have someone who's local who depends on people like us to stay in business. Yes, it's going to be more expensive as the overhead is completely different than an online store. But you also get the satisfaction of getting it now as well as supporting a local business.

What I don't get is the crying that happens when the local vendor folds because people preferred to spend online instead and they can't get something immediately because theirs broke.

I agree with this comment but only if it is an American company making American products. If someone is selling me some cheap made in China stuff...I may as well get it from the source.