Hello all I received my Vamo today and no matter what I put on whether it be a vivi mini a bridgeless 2.o atty and drip or a ce4 clearomizer it tastes terribly burned and like burning Atty. Even on 3 Watts 3 v have tried both modes with multiple vws and bbs.. maybe got 5 normal hits someone help !!!
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Did you set it to RMS? Hold the power up (or down, does not matter I think) for as long as it takes so it displays NO 2.
NO 1 is AVG.. not sure but people report a flavor diff.
Might help...
NO 1 is AVG.. not sure but people report a flavor diff.
Might help...
Hey ryguy, I think your pv is putting too much power to the atty or you are not getting enough juice to that atty. It's one or the other, or a bit of both.
I don't have a Vamo, so I have no idea how it could be doing this. I can only suggest you take your time, go through the whole setup procedure one more time and see what you can discover. If nothing works for you, I think it's a bad Vamo.
I don't have a Vamo, so I have no idea how it could be doing this. I can only suggest you take your time, go through the whole setup procedure one more time and see what you can discover. If nothing works for you, I think it's a bad Vamo.
Holding down the "+" or "-" button for ten seconds will change the mode between NO1 (Average) and NO2 (RMS). You want to be sure that your VAMO is in NO2 mode when you leave that menu selection.
Clean your juice delivery devices really well and dry burn the coils. You may have to replace the heads as sometimes the burnt taste won't come out of the wicking material. The bridgeless atty will probably come clean.
If your VAMO is in NO2 mode and you are still getting dry hits with multiple clean juice delivery devices contact your vendor for a replacement VAMO.
Clean your juice delivery devices really well and dry burn the coils. You may have to replace the heads as sometimes the burnt taste won't come out of the wicking material. The bridgeless atty will probably come clean.
If your VAMO is in NO2 mode and you are still getting dry hits with multiple clean juice delivery devices contact your vendor for a replacement VAMO.
I have seen several people mention this off and on...what is the difference of the two? People tell every one to do that, but have yet to read why? What does RMS stand for?
RMS is Root Mean Square. It's a calculation method used for pulse width modulation, to achieve a particular output voltage. This might help explain it: SmartGauge Electronics - RMS volts as opposed to average volts - simple explanation.
One of the vets may be able to point to something better in terms of explanation.
Ok, found this. It's a pbusardo video that explains at a high level what AVG and RMS calculations are. It's a little better than the last rambling explanation I found.
I'd put my money on the possibility that you've got a wicking issue and/or aren't priming your drip atty correctly.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but in my experience a burnt taste usually indicates that you aren't vaporizing liquid, but rather burning your wick/filler material.
With the drip atty, 6 drops to prime, and every 3 hits, give it another few drops. You should be hearing a slight 'gurgle' when you draw from it.
The clearo, I have no idea. I don't mess with those.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but in my experience a burnt taste usually indicates that you aren't vaporizing liquid, but rather burning your wick/filler material.
With the drip atty, 6 drops to prime, and every 3 hits, give it another few drops. You should be hearing a slight 'gurgle' when you draw from it.
The clearo, I have no idea. I don't mess with those.
Odds are the Vamo is fine...Odds are even better the devises you are putting on the vamo are already holding fried juice in the coils ....the vamo is just revealing it ....try a brand new carto like a boge sr at 3.7 volts and make sure its primed correctly prior to firing it off.
Also...i would recomend putting the vamo in watts mode...push the +button once to turn on display mode and then hold the +-together for 5 seconds
Then the screen wil display 3 w...bump it up to 7.5 and try that..most juice likes
to vape around 7.5-8 watts.
Also...i would recomend putting the vamo in watts mode...push the +button once to turn on display mode and then hold the +-together for 5 seconds
Then the screen wil display 3 w...bump it up to 7.5 and try that..most juice likes
to vape around 7.5-8 watts.
The math aside, AVG mode can deliver very unpleasant, unpredictable and inappropriate high power which can make juice burn and taste nasty. Someone who understands it much better than I might be able to offer a justification for including AVG as a feature. I would much prefer not have it available as an accidental choice.
If you have a multimeter you can check the voltage output of the vamo to make sure it's accurate. You can also measure the current draw through the coil but that is a little more difficult as you will need to connect the multimeter in-line with the clearo. If the readings are what the vamo is displaying then it is your clearo/carto.
You are using the Vamo in N01 AVG mode and not RMS N02 mode, that's why. Follow JohnnyBGoode's advice and start using it in RMS (N02) mode and adjust the watts to your liking and you will be fine. I would suggest switching to a fresh carto/atty after you do this. If you are using a single coil 2.8 - 3.0 ohm carto/atty, start out at 8 watts and then adjust up or down to your preference. If you are using a 1.5 - 2.0 ohm dual coil carto, start out at about 11.5 watts and adjust up or down to your liking.
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I have done testing and research on Different kinds of Wave Forms. And I have a Good Understand of the Math involved which describes what should be going on. But here is a Non-Technical Observation that I haven't seen mentioned before.
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I use 2.8 ohm CE2 Clearos. After 5 or 6 Refills, the Atomizer Coil gets "Gunked Up" with a Big Ball Crud which causes the Wick to Stop wicking... ie: starts to Taste Burnt. To Clean my CE2's I Rinse, Dry and then Dry Burn the Coil.
Here is what I noticed when I Dry Burn using my Vamo in N02 Mode at 3.5 volts.
Nothing Unusual. The Coil Heats up Evenly and reaches a Bright Orange / Pale Yellow in 3 Seconds.
Here is what I noticed when I Dry Burn using my Vamo in N01 Mode at 3.5 volts.
Something Unusual. The Coil Wire Heats up Instantly to Bright Orange / Pale Yellow at the Ends where the Coil Wire Enter and Leaves the Atomizer Cup while the Center Section of the Coil is Unchanged. After 3 Seconds of so the Center Section is now Orange but the Ends of the Coil is Off the Scale White Hot.
After seeing this, I know why I was getting Burnt Hits in N01 Mode. The Coil wasn't Heating Evenly. The Center was Cool with respect to the Ends.
To Make a Bad Analogy, the "Average Heat" over the Entire Coil in N01 Mode maybe the Same as the Constant Heat given off in N02 Mode.
But Since the Ends of the Coil were Over the Limit of what makes my e-Liquids taste Burnt, I would get a Terrible Hit.
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Like I said, this is All Non-Technical. But I would be Curious if Another Member has Observed this?
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I use 2.8 ohm CE2 Clearos. After 5 or 6 Refills, the Atomizer Coil gets "Gunked Up" with a Big Ball Crud which causes the Wick to Stop wicking... ie: starts to Taste Burnt. To Clean my CE2's I Rinse, Dry and then Dry Burn the Coil.
Here is what I noticed when I Dry Burn using my Vamo in N02 Mode at 3.5 volts.
Nothing Unusual. The Coil Heats up Evenly and reaches a Bright Orange / Pale Yellow in 3 Seconds.
Here is what I noticed when I Dry Burn using my Vamo in N01 Mode at 3.5 volts.
Something Unusual. The Coil Wire Heats up Instantly to Bright Orange / Pale Yellow at the Ends where the Coil Wire Enter and Leaves the Atomizer Cup while the Center Section of the Coil is Unchanged. After 3 Seconds of so the Center Section is now Orange but the Ends of the Coil is Off the Scale White Hot.
After seeing this, I know why I was getting Burnt Hits in N01 Mode. The Coil wasn't Heating Evenly. The Center was Cool with respect to the Ends.
To Make a Bad Analogy, the "Average Heat" over the Entire Coil in N01 Mode maybe the Same as the Constant Heat given off in N02 Mode.
But Since the Ends of the Coil were Over the Limit of what makes my e-Liquids taste Burnt, I would get a Terrible Hit.
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Like I said, this is All Non-Technical. But I would be Curious if Another Member has Observed this?
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I did notice that n01 mode ran hotter than n02 mode.
Switch to n02 mode and start LOW. Start at 4W (you probably won't even get much vapor there) and just click up one setting at a time until you are getting a good vape. Better to start low and increase, than to start too high and burn juice again.
Switch to n02 mode and start LOW. Start at 4W (you probably won't even get much vapor there) and just click up one setting at a time until you are getting a good vape. Better to start low and increase, than to start too high and burn juice again.
It is simple - RMS is the proper way to present Balanced power output. Vamo was a Transition piece and the manufactures were not certian of peoples preference, thus included the original concept and RMS mode. Moving forward RMS is becoming standard practice in mod design.
Next question, Are you running 1 battery or 2?
A Single 18650 or 18350(short mode) will deliver slightly less instant power than Stacking 2 18350's. Also note, you will NOT get the full 15 watts claimed output unless running Stacked batteries. (something I do not recommend or need)
Next question, Are you running 1 battery or 2?
A Single 18650 or 18350(short mode) will deliver slightly less instant power than Stacking 2 18350's. Also note, you will NOT get the full 15 watts claimed output unless running Stacked batteries. (something I do not recommend or need)
Or just use the Vamo in RMS (N02) mode like 99% of us do and be a happy vaper.
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Sure, It's Nice to have someone tell you how to Fix Something. But I, and Many Others, also like to find out Why and How the thing Broke in the First Place.
There is nothing to be concerned about using two 18350 batteries in the Vamo. Many of us have been stacking batteries for years without an issue. With the Vamo's built in protections, stacking two 18350's lets you use all of the advantages of the Vamo without concern.
i have tried both modes.. and many different settings from 3 w or 3v up... farthest ive gotten with a clean taste on the bridgeless 2.0 atty or the ce4 cartos was 3.4 vs or 5 if i adjust the wattage instead i have had it in NO2 but have even tried it in no 1 mode... I'm very lost.. I put brand new heads on the vivi taking the ones that shipped on it off after trying those first put new head worked normally for a few hits then back to burning.. same with anything else few hits normal then back to burning anything past like 3.3 v or 5 watts on any vape device
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