Vape Meeting with the President

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Baditude

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Mitt Romney said:
“66 percent of the kids addicted to these products are saying they didn’t even know it had nicotine in it, they thought it was just a candy type product,” stated Sen. Mitt Romney. “It’s the flavor that gets the kids in it, it’s a health emergency.”
Either Romney or the kids are lying. The device and the cartidges all have a large warning: "WARNING: This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical." Just stop with all the BS lies, please. And everyone knows kids juul for the nicotine head rush, not for the flavors.

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Romney is lying. He learned from a master. Because, oh sure, I have glasses, but the Hand of God came down upon me, and I found these special "tablets' that I carefully transcribed at length, and then I buried them. I forget where. Or, maybe God moved them. I still can't see that well, either. I might have misunderstood some of the footnotes where God goes into Caffeine being the urine of Satan and how 15 wives, and if you can get sisters and cousins you are EXTRA blessed, well, yeah, that's all good.

I'm sorry but I have trouble taking God's emissary as being glasses-wearing at all seriously, let alone the rather confused story behind it.

I know religion is just many times the stuff you choose to believe because you are like, scared and want someone persuasive to BELIEVE and the older the religion is, maybe the bolder claims you can get away with, but gimme loaves and fishes and raising the dead every TIME not to mention a virgin birth or a VERY convincingly mendacious teen ANY day of the week.

I just can't take Mormon's too seriously. They are so serious. SO NICE. TOO nice. Not to be trusted. Sometimes I evaluate the abnormally nice for like how far in distance I will need to stab them, just in CASE.

I'm sorry, all this politics talk is depressing but the fact that Romney was like a presidential candidate HILARIOUS.

Too soon, Mormons, try again in another century. You are only midway between, well Christianity and Scientology. You need to wait until gene or laser surgery becomes SO common, the glasses will be a sign of his humble shouldering of his Godly burden which made him closer to his maker, due to his imperfections. Etc.

No offense to religions anywhere! I have my own because the book is short, and the tenants are like, sensible. Mostly. Plus I don't go around like demanding other people do them.

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I think the age change to 21 will be a win maybe for every side. Since adults want flavors and only adults are allowed to buy vape products, 2 birds and all that. The anti vaping mom's will have to deal with the kids breaking the law if they get hooked on Juul. DT could come out smelling like a rose just on the 21 age change.
 

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I wish everyone in that meeting, as well as every journalist and media person, and millions of other Americans... had to watch the Dr. Oz show I just finished watching about 1/2 hour ago. He had Cynthia McFadden on there, who had been investigating the black market THC cartridges that made the people ill and caused deaths. It was stated from the get-go that they were talking about THC vaping and NOT regular eliquid vaping.

They even had test results of dispensary obtained THC cartridge contents and the black market stuff. Test results were shown and explained, as well as specifically what Vitamin E acetate is and the damage it does within the lungs.

I thought it was a well done, very informative segment. Hopefully, it was widely viewed and at least opened some eyes and ears to the truth...that were closed before.
 
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I wish everyone in that meeting, as well as every journalist and media person, and millions of other Americans... had to watch the Dr. Oz show I just finished watching about 1/2 hour ago. He had Cynthia McFadden on there, who had been investigating the black market THC cartridges that made the people ill and caused deaths. It was stated from the get-go that they were talking about THC vaping and NOT regular eliquid vaping.

They even had test results of dispensary obtained THC cartridge contents and the black market stuff. Test results were shown and explained, as well as specifically what Vitamin E acetate is and the damage it does within the lungs.

I thought it was a well done, very informative segment. Hopefully, it was widely viewed and at least opened some eyes and ears to the truth...that were closed before.

I don't care if "Dr." Oz suddenly became the world's leading vape promoter, he is still a complete quack and a shill for junk products and doesn't deserve to be on TV. At the very least, his show should be flagged at the beginning and after each commercial break as a "Paid Program".
 

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I don't care if "Dr." Oz suddenly became the world's leading vape promoter, he is still a complete quack and a shill for junk products and doesn't deserve to be on TV. At the very least, his show should be flagged at the beginning and after each commercial break as a "Paid Program".

Everyone's entitled to their opinion and has the right to share it here. I have no problem with that. :)
 

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Everyone's entitled to their opinion and has the right to share it here. I have no problem with that. :)
Did Dr. Oz just do a flip flop on vaping? I thought I heard he did an anti-vaping episode in the last two weeks. Did he make a comment on nicotine vaping?
 

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Everyone's entitled to their opinion and has the right to share it here. I have no problem with that. :)

I don't begrudge anyone from having an opinion. I do dislike people that state said opinion as "scientific and/or medical fact" and then use that to bilk millions of people out of their hard earned money.
 

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Could always start with a federal ban on bullets (except rubber) if they're so concerned about the human population of North America. Not that it matters to me. North American's have zero gun rights outside of the USA. Although the way they keep telling the rest of the world about their gun rights you'd think they do. However, this is about protecting the nation from the evils of vaping and that is far more important. Baditude's avatar says it all. It's not the gun which is the danger, it's the tobacco products. :facepalm::lol:

I mean when you see that avatar you don't consider the fact that it depicts a gun, that's fine, no, you're just concerned that it has cigarettes in it.

Yeah, like they're the problem the USA has.

So what's worse: a gun with bullets in it ?. or a gun with cigarettes in it ?.

Well if you weren't in a vaping forum then the answer is bullets. But we are in a vaping forum so the actual answer is insanely......cigarettes.

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Could always start with a federal ban on bullets (except rubber) if they're so concerned about the human population of North America. Not that it matters to me. North Americans have zero gun rights outside of the USA. Although the way they keep telling the rest of the world about their gun rights you'd think they do. But this is about protecting the nation from the evils of vaping and that is far more important. Baditude's avatar says it all. It's not the gun which is the danger, it's the tobacco products. :facepalm::lol:

I mean when you see that avatar you don't consider the fact that it depicts a gun, that's fine, no, you're just concerned that it has cigarettes in it.

Yeah, like they're the problem the USA has.
Actually, the USA has NEITHER problem. The problem we do have is an ever-increasing shortage of liberty (aka government intrusion into our lives).
 

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I wished the vaping industry in the beginning would have kicked out the weed heads and not make any vaping products for them. They have brought unwanted negative attention to this industry that has saved millions of lives. Big tobacco and the politicians that were bought always wanted a reason to shut down this industry. Never align yourself with weed heads.
 

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I wished the vaping industry in the beginning would have kicked out the weed heads and not make any vaping products for them. They have brought unwanted negative attention to this industry that has saved millions of lives. Big tobacco and the politicians that were bought always wanted a reason to shut down this industry. Never align yourself with weed heads.

Trouble is some of "us" are weed heads. Just like some of us are liberals or conservatives or believers or atheists. In any case we don't have the power to decree who is allowed to use vaping gear. We are just lucky that as far as I know you can't vape oxycontin.
 

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I thought it was a well done, very informative segment. Hopefully, it was widely viewed and at least opened some eyes and ears to the truth...that were closed before.

The truth may be leaking out.

I had an interesting conversation last night with a friend down the road who we walk the dogs with. She is my age, late 60's. She has COPD and smokes. She tried vaping a few years ago. I gave her a Spinner and Pro Tank. Didn't work out well, she didn't really want to do it. Insisted on using unflavored zero nic juice. She was completely ignorant about vaping and wasn't interested in learning. Earlier this year she told us she had heard it was worse than cigarettes.

Now her breathing is getting worse and she wants to try again. She just asked me about the vaping lung disease. Wanted to know if the stuff I make contained vit E acetate. I started to explain that was about THC carts and she cut me off. Said, I know that I just wanted to be sure you don't put it in your juice.

Thing is, given her past complete lack of interest in the subject and how flaky and uninformed she is generally, it amazed me that she had picked up the info about acetate and knew it was a THC cart problem. She is about the last person I would have expected to know and understand those details. It gave me a little hope that accurate information is trickling down through the fog of propaganda.

I'm thinking of giving her a Pico and Nautilus this time.
 
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