Vape shop sued for over a Million dollars because of exploding battery

[BackDoc]

We have a " no fault society" , as long as we have greedy plaintiffs , crooked lawyers , and liberal judges we will get to the point where we are afraid to hold a door open for a mom with kids , lest we get sued if little Johnny trips over the threshold..........my 2 cents guys

 

[RebelGolfer72]

So who all on here has been reading back through the new users section for every newbie who "wants to chuck clouds, man!", from Texas, and who completely ignores every piece of sound advice that they were given on here?

 

[ReigntheGamer]

So who all on here has been reading back through the new users section for every newbie who "wants to chuck clouds, man!", from Texas, and who completely ignores every piece of sound advice that they were given on here?

Yeah cause all of us rednecks down here don't know a thing about being safe vaping. Oh and yeeee haw.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

Yeah cause all of us rednecks down here don't know a thing about being safe vaping. Oh and yeeee haw.

Nooooo dude, did not meant it as a dig on Texans. Just meant that this particular person was from Texas, so to figure out if they were a member here and were one of the stereotypical newbies who won't listen to anyone (I.e. Filter out those types who are from say Pennsylvania)

 

[four2109]

So who all on here has been reading back through the new users section for every newbie who "wants to chuck clouds, man!", from Texas, and who completely ignores every piece of sound advice that they were given on here?

You don't have to read "back". It's continuous, and there is always a 60 day expert to tell them not to worry about anything, it's all good....
With our long awaited B&M's, we have a lot of newbies arriving here thinking they already know it all. It's too bad. Just waiting for the innocent bystander to get hurt...
I'm pretty much done worrying about it. There is just too much stupid out there. Well, stupidity and greed.

 

[edyle]

So who all on here has been reading back through the new users section for every newbie who "wants to chuck clouds, man!", from Texas, and who completely ignores every piece of sound advice that they were given on here?

Before there were so many vape shops popping up all over the place, people who were interested in chucking clouds ended up HERE, where they had the chance to discover the safety issues.

Nowadays, with shops all over the place and shops eager to sell the cheapest stuff fast, there's more and more people getting stuff from people just selling stuff, and not necessarily getting any warning about safety.

 

[Paradicio]

i remember a case where a teenager climbed a power towel and got fried. they sued the power company and won because the warning sign fell off and wasn't put back. i'm not really sure why people with lack of common sense are winning these cases just because they are dumb as a rock.

In cases like this it all depends on what you can prove. Warning signs are placed to remove liability. If the person filing the case can prove that the power company knew the sign was down, but chose to do nothing about it then the liability falls back onto the power company.

I don't see cases like this eliminating vaping equipment, what I do see is warning label requirements on the gear or the packaging it comes in.

 

[Bombeni]

This is getting very strange. Witch hunt is on the newbie forum now for the "culprit"? So some kid is suing.....so? Thousands of lawsuits are filed every week. It's a slow news period in the USA. CNN spent two days covering the bump on Harrison Ford's forehead.

Id say a few ppl need to find a diversion from the vaping scene for awhile.

P.S. It's enlightening to know how some of you regard us "newbies". I'll tread very softly now. (But carry a big stick.)

 

[edyle]

In cases like this it all depends on what you can prove. Warning signs are placed to remove liability. If the person filing the case can prove that the power company knew the sign was down, but chose to do nothing about it then the liability falls back onto the power company.

I don't see cases like this eliminating vaping equipment, what I do see is warning label requirements on the gear or the packaging it comes in.

That's exactly what needs to happen.

Lithium batteries ought to have warning labels.

Look at this:

Experienced vapers will have a healthy respect for this battery, but the ordinary joe looks and sees "Samsung" and thinks tv, phone, consumer electronics and assumes this is like consumer grade electronics, not something that could go BANG with the explosive force of a bullet.

Ordinary non-rechargeable batteries have warning or caution fine print on them even if it only say "Do not dispose of in fire".

These Lithium batteries ought to have not fine print but BIG RED CAUTION WARNING printed on them.

 

[SissySpike]

the guy is in the wrong state for a lame law suit. I think its a hangin offense in Texas to be a liberal and a judge. We like our judges to be grouchy mean amd hard nosed. Some of the law suits we think are frivolous have some merit but we only here what the corporate propaganda machine throws out ther to get John Q on their side.

We all pay for these stupid law suits those silly warning all drive the price of the products up a little. Personally I think its a shame grown men have the gall and lack of pride to sue someone for their own oversight.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

That's exactly what needs to happen.

Lithium batteries ought to have warning labels.

Look at this:

Experienced vapers will have a healthy respect for this battery, but the ordinary joe looks and sees "Samsung" and thinks tv, phone, consumer electronics and assumes this is like consumer grade electronics, not something that could go BANG with the explosive force of a bullet.

Ordinary non-rechargeable batteries have warning or caution fine print on them even if it only say "Do not dispose of in fire".

These Lithium batteries ought to have not fine print but BIG RED CAUTION WARNING printed on them.

Unfortunately, most of the batteries we use, in man cases were not a type that would normally go directly to consumers, but we're sold to OEMs who would build them into finished products (which would be packaged with battery warning labels). As a result, many of these batteries are sold loosely, or in small plastic bags etc. if they were available on the mass market, the packages would have these warnings.

This industry has been mostly good about educating, and mitigating risks. Most online sellers are pretty good about posting the warnings and disclaimers. Perhaps this will be a wake-up call for more B&M stores to be the same way. As consumers in these establishments, we can do our part to call out a shop we see selling loose batteries and not putting signs in place, having handouts or something providing a link to any of the good safety posts online (like Baditudes post).
It's easy to point fingers, and yes, even if shops and OEMs did everything they could to educate, you still will have those that don't heed good advice...but at the end of the day, each and every one of us can use this as a motivation to do our part in making sure we don't hear about this happening again.

 

[SissySpike]

That's exactly what needs to happen.

Lithium batteries ought to have warning labels.

Look at this:

Experienced vapers will have a healthy respect for this battery, but the ordinary joe looks and sees "Samsung" and thinks tv, phone, consumer electronics and assumes this is like consumer grade electronics, not something that could go BANG with the explosive force of a bullet.

Ordinary non-rechargeable batteries have warning or caution fine print on them even if it only say "Do not dispose of in fire".

These Lithium batteries ought to have not fine print but BIG RED CAUTION WARNING printed on them.

you drank the cool aid also why dose everything need warning labels. Why is it not your responsibility to know how to use something properly before you use it.

 

[Iffy]

I'll tread very softly now. (But carry a big stick.)

Alllriiighty, ya mean ya got a 50W iStick to replace da 20W ya lost?

 

[Bunnykiller]

obviously there was bits of conductive material in the pocket along with the battery.....

about as smart as throwing lit matches into a 55 gallon barrel of gasoline...

 

[Light Seeker]

the guy is in the wrong state for a lame law suit. I think its a hangin offense in Texas to be a liberal and a judge. We like our judges to be grouchy mean amd hard nosed. Some of the law suits we think are frivolous have some merit but we only here what the corporate propaganda machine throws out ther to get John Q on their side.

We all pay for these stupid law suits those silly warning all drive the price of the products up a little. Personally I think its a shame grown men have the gall and lack of pride to sue someone for their own oversight.

Could care less about the lawsuit, it'll be thrown out. I was just watching this on the local news ..... Not only did the news channel devote time to an idiot, but it put ecigs in a negative light, & some asinine politician will trumpet it for nothing more than airtime & "protecting our citizens & children'....

 

[Bunnykiller]

we need to let Judge Judy handle this one....

imagining her saying... you had a battery in your pocket with loose metal parts too??? Dont you realize a battery is electrical... and metal can make it spark....
didnt you know about protective battery cases???

 

[shuggibear]

we need to let Judge Judy handle this one....

imagining her saying... you had a battery in your pocket with loose metal parts too??? Dont you realize a battery is electrical... and metal can make it spark....
didnt you know about protective battery cases???

For dirt cheap too. Got mine for less than the price of a soda from a vending machine at a BM. If you order everything online it's only a click away. Pretty sturdy too, almost have to pry the damn thing open everytime.

 

[Completely Average]

Just thought I would add a bit more information to the original story.

It was an 18650 battery. Don't know the brand or type. It was red though.

The battery was inside a ziplock plastic bag inside his front pocket. It was not in a mod.


Here are some pictures:

My first thought is that it's a counterfeit AW battery based off of what is available at Vixen Vapor's website. They only sell AW and EFest 18650 batteries that are red, and what remains of the bottom part of the battery does not appear to have the EFest markings on it. They probably got the batteries from Alibaba which is known for selling counterfeit AW batteries. In fact there are no AW batteries sold through Chinese vendors at all.

AW Batteries has no mainland China distributor: no Alibaba vendors or vendors such as Heaven Gifts supply genuine AW cells - they are all counterfeit.

AW Batteries - Authorised Dealers


So the ecig shop admits the battery came from a Chinese supplier and AW batteries are not sold through Chinese suppliers. The ecig shop could end up loosing this suit because they are buying counterfeit batteries.

 

[jseah]

We have a " no fault society" , as long as we have greedy plaintiffs , crooked lawyers , and liberal judges we will get to the point where we are afraid to hold a door open for a mom with kids , lest we get sued if little Johnny trips over the threshold..........my 2 cents guys

Actually, I believe you got that wrong. We have a "it's the other guy's fault society".

 

[roxynoodle]

Completely Average, where did those pics come from?