Yep, because this week he found a lawyer to take the case 
. And this lawyer enjoys media attention.
. And this lawyer enjoys media attention.Vape shop sued for over a Million dollars because of exploding battery
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After all the noise with not allowing these batteries on planes in mass quantities you'd think there would be more awareness of their volatile nature.
No the safety issues concerning Lithium batteries are NOT the same as the common alkaline batteries at all.
Regular batteries are not as powerfull as lithium batteries otherwise we would just be using regular batteries.
Lithium batteries have safety issues, and they should come with WARNING or CAUTION labels, and that has nothing to do with vaping in particular
What should happen is people should educate themselves before buying li-on cells that store large amounts of power.
Use common sense!
I mean who who'da thunk those things could discharge if shorted?
Let's put the responsibility on the retailer to force feed ya some
Logic!
Why to you want to put the responsibility on a retailer for battery labelling?
https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts
Again this goes back to what you can prove. In this instance the woman was able to prove that McDonald's had prior knowledge of the coffee being too hot (in the form of over 700 injury reports), and that McDonald's chose to do nothing....until someone got hurt. In this case "hurt" being 3rd degree burns which required skin grafts.
I am all for warning labels and owner's manuals which contain the appropriate cautions. It's a cost effective way for safety measures to be delivered to the consumer WITH the purchase.
Manufacturers cannot operate under the assumption that consumers will research their product safety on the internet.
His own ignorance and laziness is to blame. I mean, why does the internet exist at all??? Research at your fingertips, sharing of knowledge, etc.
Many great resources exist, such as this forum. Did he do any research on batteries, brands, trusted retailers, cases, counterfeits??? NO. Plus anyone who lets a salesperson tell them what they should buy is just plain...we'll, you get the point.
Ignorance will always be blamed on external sources. No one takes responsibility for their actions these days. And the press gravitates to those stories. Oh the horror!!
Many great resources exist, such as this forum. Did he do any research on batteries, brands, trusted retailers, cases, counterfeits??? NO. Plus anyone who lets a salesperson tell them what they should buy is just plain...we'll, you get the point.
Ignorance will always be blamed on external sources. No one takes responsibility for their actions these days. And the press gravitates to those stories. Oh the horror!!
If the device that blew up on the idiot was pieced together by him from different units then he does not have a legal leg to stand on.
When are they going to outlaw driving because of all the folks who cause accidents because they tend to make up their own rules of the road???
What really should happen is have people that bring civil cases to court and lose pay the defense lawyers fees and court costs. That would discourage both the client and the lawyer from bringing bogus suits into the courtroom. The client may not take the chance if he could end up losing and taking on a large dept and lawyers working on a contingency basis if he could end up losing anything other than his time.
I'd be willing to bet that Judge Judy has no idea you shouldn't do that.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet that if I walked down the street asking random people...
Not even one person out of three would know that.
EDIT: I would actually do that if I could figure out how to ask the question without biasing the answer.
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They used to have a pair of burnt pants at the boise electnicstixs, it was a good laugh every time.
It's a tough one. What to do when something as potentially volatile as random lithium ion batteries are readily available to the public. If vapers would stick to decent IMR batteries, we (probably) wouldn't have any cases like this one. One part of me questions why this should be used against us. Another part knows that it certainly will. Yet another - slightly more positive part - asks "is this all they got against us?". If so, our opposition is grasping for straws. Which they unfortunately do very successfully.
What saddens me a bit is that we are disputing negatives rather than advocating positives. Positives leads to acceptance. Negatives make people cry for protection. Quantity matters in the media.
What frustrates me is that the negatives are only loosely tied to 'vaping'. It's the occasional fellow doing something they shouldn't be doing. In one sense - I can't really blame people for not knowing that certain kinds of batteries may be dangerous if abused. What to do when people won't listen - or don't know that they need to learn something. This applies to most aspects of life. We simply can not protect people from themselves.
What makes me slightly angry is that this does not need to be an issue at all... if we could only make people stop using explosive batteries. Or convince the public that this is not vaping. It's a mistake. As they say - you can't fix stupid. Like it or not... all of us are occasionally the stupid one.
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I disagree.
Most people aren't stupid.
Any reasonable person will know that having a pocket full of loose metal can cause a battery to short.
Especially a powerful li-on cell that they have purchased.
Yes, there is ways a tool in the crowd, but I believe that's a small minority of adults.
Most people that thick don't make it to adulthood.
Growing pains to the Nth degree.
Our local store modified external battery sales practices in repsonse (no pun intended).
Our local store modified external battery sales practices in repsonse (no pun intended).
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I'm not so sure how readily available lithium ion batteries are to the public; do you see them where you get other batteries? I don't.
I can't get them locally where I am; even Radio Shack doesn't have them (although that might not mean much for Radio Shack nowadays); it seems to be a specialty item.
All the talk about Sony vtc that I used to see on this board, I never saw a picture of a battery that actually had "Sony" on the label.
Maybe the guys at Sony just didn't want to have anything to do with what they saw coming with the future of 18650 batteries.
Here's a Samsung though:
Not sure what the Samsung logo looks like, but at least there's the name on the battery; and assuming it really is a Samsung battery I can have some confidence that the battery does what it's supposed to do.
Here's a supposed "Panasonic"
but there's no "Panasonic" that I see anywhere on that battery.
I got efest batteries myself, and they have efest name/logo on them.
There seems to be no Duracell, or Energizer lithium battery; that says something.
Alkaline batteries do indeed explode, they're just not quite as dramatic as li-ions, and all the major brands have warning on their websites (probably the packaging too) not to put a loose battery in with metal objects. 13 Investigates exploding alkaline batteries - 13 WTHR Indianapolis Do a google of alkaline explosion for more.
Also, the old fateful 9 volt can do significant damage given the chance. A guy in Colorado was foolish enough to toss all his old smoke detector batteries in a sack to recycle later, and left the sack in the garage. According to the fire department two of those batteries contacted each other after something else was placed on the shelf against the sack. The house was gutted.
Now, think about how many people leave alkalines lying around loose in a junk drawer.
As far as commonly sold lithiums, the CR123A found in any camera department springs to mind, and Energizer at the very least has a line of lithium/Iron Disulfide readily available. The li-ions we use make up 66% of Japan's battery sales.
Imho, this is just another example of being babysat by the government for too long. We as a species have lost our sense of self-preservation.
Also, the old fateful 9 volt can do significant damage given the chance. A guy in Colorado was foolish enough to toss all his old smoke detector batteries in a sack to recycle later, and left the sack in the garage. According to the fire department two of those batteries contacted each other after something else was placed on the shelf against the sack. The house was gutted.
Now, think about how many people leave alkalines lying around loose in a junk drawer.
As far as commonly sold lithiums, the CR123A found in any camera department springs to mind, and Energizer at the very least has a line of lithium/Iron Disulfide readily available. The li-ions we use make up 66% of Japan's battery sales.
Imho, this is just another example of being babysat by the government for too long. We as a species have lost our sense of self-preservation.
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