Stupid question.. But based on all the posts here one would think this is the place to get the information.. These batteries that are highly dangerous, are they different to the batteries in say the istick 50w or the mvp 3, or is it just that the istick and mvp3 have safety features in place that should prevent this? Is the iStick and mvp3 safe to carry in your pocket with say your car keys? Cheers guys.
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Last week, we had over 10 inches of snow after it had rained and sleeted. That resulted in 6-7 inches of fluffy snow laying on top of 1-2 inches of slush. This pretty well made my two cycle blower useless (to be altered for next season). It would blow for a short while and clog. Now many have reached in the chute and dug the snow out not thinking of the implications, some have lost fingers. I found a pipe that I could shove in and loosen the sludge and get it blowing again. You have to use some common sense or you end up suffering the consequences.
This video demonstrates just what you're dealing with-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KndKJ-COBw
I'm not suggesting shrink wrapping your batteries as you may find they won't slide into your housing. However, Look how close the negative is to the positive on these batteries and what separates the two- the thin shrink wrap they come with and an insulator around the positive post. You stuff a battery in your pocket with metal and it wouldn't take much rubbing on the positive end to expose the negative and create a short.
This video demonstrates just what you're dealing with-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KndKJ-COBw
I'm not suggesting shrink wrapping your batteries as you may find they won't slide into your housing. However, Look how close the negative is to the positive on these batteries and what separates the two- the thin shrink wrap they come with and an insulator around the positive post. You stuff a battery in your pocket with metal and it wouldn't take much rubbing on the positive end to expose the negative and create a short.
You think you have to be stupid to not understand batteries, and I couldn't disagree more.
In fact, I can't even imagine why on earth you would think that.
It takes guts to ask a question like that.
Some here would call you stupid for not knowing the answer already.
I say you are just an average person, as far as your understanding of batteries...
Although quite possibly smarter than average for being wise enough to ask that question.
I'm pretty sure the answer is that you can safely put those in your pocket.
I'll let one of the rocket scientists explain why, or correct me if my answer was wrong.
It takes guts to ask a question like that.
Some here would call you stupid for not knowing the answer already.
I say you are just an average person, as far as your understanding of batteries...
Although quite possibly smarter than average for being wise enough to ask that question.
I'm pretty sure the answer is that you can safely put those in your pocket.
I'll let one of the rocket scientists explain why, or correct me if my answer was wrong.
Lol. Cheers man.. I think?
I'm just trying to be as safe as possible and not be the next knob to do something that everyone just goes "What a idiot" to lol.
I'm on a few different forums, e mailing vendors asking all types of dumb questions just to be on the safe side, it's just how I roll.. Slowly and lamely lol. But I need to learn as much as I can as fast as I can to feel confident in doing this for the long run. Cheers for answering.
The MVP and iStick mods are regulated mods, so their internal non-replaceable batteries are protected against short circuits by the processor in these units. They also use a different chemistry battery (Li-Po), which are common in remote control cars and airplanes.
These (regulated) mods are relatively safe to carry in a pocket. There is more danger to carry a mechanical mod (no protection circuitry) in a pocket, especially if it has a bottom fire (non-recessed) fire button which could be accidentally pressed and over-discharge the battery.
However Ops question, in relation to this thread is misleading.
Thread is about carrying an exposed Battery in a pocket. An iStick or MVP are Devices which contain a Battery for power.
Regulated Mods do offer much protection. Mostly for the Mod itself rather than the user.
If a lithium Battery in a Sealed Mod becomes damaged, the Regulation may not be able to prevent catastrophic failure.
One ECF member posted pics of a MVP which fell on his bedroom carpeted floor. It went critical, destroying the MVP and burning the carpet.
We choose to Pocket carry at our own risk. Even cell phones blow up on occasion.
The cell phone didn't blow up, but my daughter fell asleep with her cell phone plugged into the charger (Samsung Galaxy S4) and covered by her blanket. The phone overheated to the point where the phone shut itself off.
Because of incidences such as this poor guys, and the inherent dangers of these cells not specifically designed for so benign a use as cigarette alternative, regulation will be implemented and we the consumer will have to bare the cost. All these battery's should be sold in suitable containers and with warnings given both verbally and in writing. The retailers will sell to whosoever takes the cash out of their pockets and puts it in their coffers. Many b&m's do an excellent job, others
Because of incidences such as this poor guys, and the inherent dangers of these cells not specifically designed for so benign a use as cigarette alternative, regulation will be implemented and we the consumer will have to bare the cost. All these battery's should be sold in suitable containers and with warnings given both verbally and in writing. The retailers will sell to whosoever takes the cash out of their pockets and puts it in their coffers. Many b&m's do an excellent job, others
I don't care if they ban the sales in local vape shops, but if I can't order flashlight batteries anymore I'll be rather upset.
All these battery's should be sold in suitable containers and with warnings given both verbally and in writing.
They are - they are called mobile phones.
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They are - they are called mobile phones.
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I may have misused "readily available".
Lithium batteries are sort of specialty items. But they are still available if you look in the right places. Round cell lithium batteries are e.g likely to be found in sporting/hunting stores for use in flashlights or bike lights. Lipos can be bought at any RC hobbyist store.
Or I could simply order them online - not necessarily from vaping shops. Both the supply and demand is there regardless of us vapers.
Part of the reason I got my 18650s was not to vape. I prefer smaller batteries for that purpose. I got them to power battery banks for my other gadgets. If it wasn't for what I have learned from vaping - those cells would not likely be of the IMR variety.
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It is not the product, it is the people.
No wonder Trampolines have pads and Nets. Next will be required steps with hand rails.
(okay, I agree with the pads)
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It is not the product, it is the people.
No wonder Trampolines have pads and Nets. Next will be required steps with hand rails.
(okay, I agree with the pads
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Really?
What happens when you touch a piece of metal to both posts on your car battery?
What sane adult doesn't know what happens?
Why would any logical person think arcing a battery in your pocket is safe?
Life requires a bit of cognitive function to navigate safely.
We can't make excuses for idiots.
These people knowingly set themselves up to be victims.
I don't think crxess was referring to that particular instance, more like these.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...hes-fire-cellphone-explodes-article-1.1760791
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/10/galaxy-s3-explode_n_3567977.html
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The AW IMR batteries I order from ProVape come in a plastic bag with a warning sticker-
We live in an information flooded society with everything needed to understand most things in daily life with-in a few keystrokes.
Google TWO words:
Battery Safety
Anything and everything needed to practice safe battery handling and usage is right there.
Google TWO words:
Battery Safety
Anything and everything needed to practice safe battery handling and usage is right there.
I think the 'Perp' was trying to be careful and had the battery in a zip lock sandwich bag just like the one here with the warning on it. The problem is warning labels do not create a sufficient barrier and neither do sandwich bags- perhaps this sends the wrong message?
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