Ok, but that is not shown in your pics. As I said, many suppliers do an excellent job with safely packaging battery's, others less so. I just think it needs to be standardized and warning labels the norm.
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My pic was for the warning label. I suppose I could wrap one up in bubble wrap and tape like they come, but that's a lot of effort...
So now I'm curious. Who wants to do an experiment? Take a AA alkaline and put it in a sandwich bag. Now take a strip of tin foil, hold one end to the negative post on the outside of the bag and touch the other to the positive. Report back on what happens. 
I have been sold IMR battery's without any protective covering. Using dependable vendors may be the key to safety in the future and if that means some official document has to be issued, then so be it. What I mean is, perhaps it would be better for all of us if not every Tom, .... or Harry could dispense them readily.
Here are some a I bought from sensible suppliers..
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Here are some a I bought from sensible suppliers..
So now I'm curious. Who wants to do an experiment? Take a AA alkaline and put it in a sandwich bag. Now take a strip of tin foil, hold one end to the negative post on the outside of the bag and touch the other to the positive. Report back on what happens.
I got a 9 volt can I just touch my tongue to both posts and report back? My guess it will complete the circuit but the again I'm a rocket scientist.
Not saying you are wrong. I just want to put it into perspective. Like many others I have been using batteries in one form or another for most of my life. From battery powered toys as a kid to smoke detectors, flashlights, etc. None of those experiences has given me even the slightest hint that I have to know anything at all about "battery safety". All I knew was that + goes to + and - to -. And not to charge non-rechargeables.
I wouldn't know any more than that if the RC heli community didn't stress battery safety and knowledge. Like the vaping community does. Difference between the two communities is that you can be a vaper without knowing anything. Flying RC helis without knowing anything is simply not possible. The need to seek out knowledge is worlds apart.
People don't know that they need to know.
As a side-note: Two of my nieces recently had a project in school where they learned about recycling. One task was to collect as many depleted batteries as possible. To my delight they lectured me on the importance of covering the terminals with electrical tape before turning them in.
I think the problem in this case is the man had his keys and battery in the sandwich bag. The sandwich was loose in his pocket...
1: the batteries inside the istick or mvp are also lithium based batteries.
2: the istick and mvp have the batteries inside of them. The batteries are not loose and exposed. The istick and mvp can also be turned off.
You are clouding this with for instances well outside Vaping.
Kid(years of product advancements have transpired)
Toys,Flashlights,Smoke detectors - Common place items with mass exposure.
Heli - Takes us to point!
Specialization!! Special circumstances and requirements of application.
(also more evidence of recklessness - tens of thousands of Heli's in the dumps from one hit wonders that hadn't a clue)
Why would one simply start Vaping and not ask some of the most basic question?
Why would someone choose to purchase a Mod capable of switching Batteries and not be concerned about the safety of using such device?
See my Start Date - This was the Date I started vaping - Aug. 5, 2012
This date was after almost 6 months of reading, researching and looking for answers to questions that kept coming up.
I still learn new things daily.
We can label as we wish, but it all comes down to ones desire to know what they are getting involved with. When that fails others are blamed and Lawyers are hired.
This is a rather irresponsible lawsuit, like the McDonalds coffee burning a customer's lap while she' driving. Only North American courts would countenance such idiocy.
It does raise something else down the road through. Because vape shops, juice makers, device makers etc are operating with no real legal legislation, IF down the road there are medical consequences to vaping, I can see a whole wack of much more legitimate lawsuits happening. Its been in the back of my mind for some time.
It does raise something else down the road through. Because vape shops, juice makers, device makers etc are operating with no real legal legislation, IF down the road there are medical consequences to vaping, I can see a whole wack of much more legitimate lawsuits happening. Its been in the back of my mind for some time.
Here we go again. Please research the McD's coffee case before rushing to judgement. As with our chosen pastime, sensationalistic journalism made so much out of that case that the comedians then got hold of it and made it even worse.
That woman was not driving. She was sitting in the passenger seat with the car in park. She tried to remove the lid of the coffee cup (Which were later redesigned due to the difficulty of removing) to add cream and sugar to her coffee. At that time McD's was serving their coffee at 170 degrees Fahrenheit, a temperature that causes third degree burns to skin in 3 seconds, not to mention would scald the mouth of anyone trying to drink it. McD's had already settled over 700 other cases of burns caused by their coffee, but had still not bothered to turn down the heat on their pots even though the head of their own quality control had warned them about it. The woman in question was prepared to settle out of court for the cost of her hospital bills, which included needed skin grafts, but McD's only offered her $800.00 iirc. Imho, she was more than correct in suing the pants off the company.
If every Tom, .... and Harry wanting to switch to e-cigarettes believed what the reporters write about vaping like they believe what was reported about that particular case, no one would be vaping.
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Because they have been switching batteries in common place items for their entire lives - to no ill effect. That is my point. Which I don't think is very cloudy or unrelated.
Okay, fine, didn't know those details, I should have logged into an e-cig forum years ago to learn about those details, obviously my research skills suck.
But you just made my point.
Smart enough to know vapor is harmless, not smart enough to know a battery failure will cause injuries. Which way are we going to play this folks. 
This forum is just getting more ridiculous day by day.
This forum is just getting more ridiculous day by day.
I got a 9 volt can I just touch my tongue to both posts and report back? My guess it will complete the circuit but the again I'm a rocket scientist.
I did this when I was a kid, although not with my tongue, but with my lip.
Thank you for Clarifying MY point.
Switching batteries is not carrying batteries in a Pocket. Pocketing has never been promoted as SAFE.
* Please understand, I am not trying to give you a hard time. Just pointing out differences in what people do and believe should be done.
I understand no one can be 100% prepared for every event, though there are many that never take anything into account.
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Sue BT,they got us hooked on nicotine in the beginning,they are too blame for the whole mess.
Cheers for the answers about the istick and mvp guys. Think I will not be keeping it in my pocket just to be on the safe side. Obviously not being exposed makes them a lot safer to pocket, but as someone said who knows if you bump in to something and things go wrong.. Does anyone have a link between the differences of the 2 batteries?
Smart enough to know vapor is harmless, not smart enough to know a battery failure will cause injuries. Which way are we going to play this folks.
This forum is just getting more ridiculous day by day.
I'd like to echo this awesomely accurate post!
I think we may be sidelining each others points. You are talking (I think) about a base level of battery safety anyone should possess or be able to understand they should possess. I'm trying to see the perspective of someone who does not know what we know - or is even aware of the knowledges' existence and necessity.
The base requirement for learning anything is awareness of not knowing something. People who do not know batteries can be dangerous will not google battery safety.
But yes... can't deny that people should know better than to pocket any battery. Apparently, some don't.
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