Vape Shops: Blunders & Bad Advice

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Tail-piping is not a phenomenon started with RDAs, and yes I've heard of it -- that's as old as the damn Taryn Spin!
Ok, gotcha. Just that there are people around here with a metric ....load of posts...that started in '13.

Next time ask them if they have any boxes of fish filters, see if you can make heads explode :laugh:
 

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Just from the local and when traveling; I see 4-5 B&Ms not worth it for various reasons. The other 20% includes a lounge area that they participate in. If it is quiet, they take the time to sit and visit about vaping. Sure, and I don't mind, their suggesting some flavors, but they also just want the customer to feel that it is a place to hang out and relax. I spend more time, at that moment, because I am relaxed and comfortable.

In the old days, and less seen these days, is the corner bar. Just where the proprietor knows your name. Just a place to relax.

"Norm"

Oh man... back when we lived in Pontiac, there was a bar called Peppis that I hit every happy hour, because at happy hour they had Molson beer on tap for 99 cents -- I should have known it was time for AA when they all hollered "Andria!" every day when I walked in. :facepalm:

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Ok, gotcha. Just that there are people around here with a metric ....load of posts...that started in '13.

Next time ask them if they have any boxes of fish filters, see if you can make heads explode :laugh:

Ha! I don't even see the post counts or join dates. But that's maybe becasue I can't type and I have to look at the keyboard -- my eyes are otherwise distracted. :lol::lol::lol: (that's why I always have edits to my posts -- I always have mad typos!!!)

Full disclosure: I tried to vape my RDA tonight without a tip just to see. It worked, but I would neva, eva do it again. That just feels wrong! But, it worked out fine. My thing is just that they didn't even ask me what kind of RDA I was using. That is the most important part to know before proclaiming that tips are optional/unnecessary.
 
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Tail-piping is not a phenomenon started with RDAs, and yes I've heard of it -- that's as old as the damn Taryn Spin! :facepalm: But, that was one thing with 510/901s on a 3.7v, but on an RDA built for high power? If that's what you all did before chuff tops, then cool (I guess), but it is idiotic to suggest to a knowledgeable customer that drip tips are unnecessary -- especially when that customer is looking for a drip tip. Of course it can be done, but that's not the point. Tail-piping was around when drip tips were still fairly new (before Super T's little innovation caught on) and most people were still just using plastic mouth pieces on carts/end caps to cartos.

I agree that it's irresponsible for them to be willy-nilly advocating customers tail-pipe their RDAs. No doubt. That said, I do it sometimes with some of mine - like my Plume veil, 454 and even my Hobo. When I'm chasing a cloud. Yep, it gets hot sometimes; but a little caution and a quick hand and I've never had any problems. However, your point is well taken. There are truly some IDIOTS working in vape shops. It's scary to think about a complete noob walking in and getting bad advice on a sub ohm mech mod setup, going home and burning their face off.
 

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I agree that it's irresponsible for them to be willy-nilly advocating customers tail-pipe their RDAs. No doubt. That said, I do it sometimes with some of mine - like my Plume veil, 454 and even my Hobo. When I'm chasing a cloud. Yep, it gets hot sometimes; but a little caution and a quick hand and I've never had any problems. However, your point is well taken. There are truly some IDIOTS working in vape shops. It's scary to think about a complete noob walking in and getting bad advice on a sub ohm mech mod setup, going home and burning their face off.

Ouch.

I should say there are other things from my visit that I didn't mention that lead me to be so irritated. The one guy from behind the counter suggested wrapping my own drip tip bases in wire or tape so they would fit more snug. I said, maybe a thicker O-ring would suffice? :p
 
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Huh, going into a B&M and having a coil built is actually a thing?
Yup, my favorite local shop will set you up. You can either give them the full build specs (gauge, mandrel, wraps, etc etc), or just a general style of vape. Sit back and have a complimentary cup of coffee from the Keurig. They'll bring you your built vape, wicked, juiced, and with a fresh battery. No question in my mind why, from the minute they open to the minute they close, they have a dozen customers in the shop at once.

Not sure what to call it. The first vape shop to open in my town about a year and a half ago. The owner actually claimed to have invented the dual coil cartomizer. I walked out and never went back.
I wouldnt be able to handle myself. I've heard some tall tales in gun shops, but that's a whopper.

Full disclosure: I tried to vape my RDA tonight without a tip just to see. It worked, but I would neva, eva do it again. That just feels wrong! But, it worked out fine. My thing is just that they didn't even ask me what kind of RDA I was using. That is the most important part to know before proclaiming that tips are optional/unnecessary.
If it's wrong, I dont wanna be right! But yeah, it's very dependant on the atty. My 22mm Veritas is kinda like a fat cigar, where a 30mm Tohb feels like it might be time for a vaping intervention.
 
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tailpiping all depends if you have enough airflow to cooldownt he wires during hits. tailpiping i wouldnt reccomend for vapers that do long drags, with tightened airholes as the heat builds up because of not enough airflow to cooldown the coils. I personally tailpipe most of the time on my mutation x , i can run 0.5ohms at 25 watts and tailpipe it due to the fact that i leave the airholes wide open, all the airflow cools down the coils while i inhale and never causes the RDA to get hot. With an RDA with few airholes that are like 1-2mm big, the rda itself gets hot due to not enough airflow cooling and i would never recommend tailpiping those.

thats the problem with most people at vape shops ive been to, they just know how to do one certain thing and think it works for everything else. theyre not actually informed about anything else other than the fact someone told them 'build this , this way, do this that way, and use this' they actually have no clue about the inner-workings or how things work, they are just told something with no clue how anything works, then just try to pass on the misinformation they are giving and relate it to everything without actually understanding anything. its like the equivalent of teaching someone 2+2 , but when u ask them what 2+3 is, they say 4.
 
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Yeah the tail piping or taping thing isn't really that big of a deal... I think you just have a difference of opinion with the shop. That can leave you with a bad experience and it's understandable. Imo a blunder would be more of flat out wrong information or complete lack of information. For example in my vape shop an employee told me that people normally don't test the coils they build before vaping them when they buy an RDA from him. Also that he wasn't sure about the amp ratings on 18650's he had for sell or why you would want to know this information. He was sold out of them so I couldn't identify the battery he was actually selling. That is a blunder and an accident waiting to happen.
 

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My favorite are shop owners that don't even vape.

Haha that's what I thought of when I saw this thread. A shop outside of Boston, near Weston, MA. The owner didn't vape, and her assistant who did vape an ego answered every question by making dumb beer analogies,, that all the crap in their shop was like fine craft beer and everything else was like Milwaukee's Best, and that if you didn't buy it in their crappy shop then you got ripped off. Tiny inventory of overpriced crap being pushed by total idiots. Worst vape shop ever.
 
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