Vape side effects warm hands dopey

[KENNY V]

vape side effects warm hands dopey


Hey guys Im the new kid on the block guess I graduated out of the new member section cuz I cant post there anymore . Now bare with me cuz I am having a rough time transitioning to vaping
but its more than one issue .Way too many variables and will take long to explain in this post but fornow lets say im trying to rule out and such sensitivities so wouldlike to get to the bottom of this one thing at a time.
with a a hangover headache and stomache acke sorta hard to tell what gets worse......

Long story short I have been detoxing going on 21 days . I feel better in some ways of course bcI cut my 30 year PAD smoking habit down 70%-80% however From dayone I started to vape each time I experienced many unpleasant side effects. Again too much for one post to describe but will say Iam yet to rule out sensitivities .
Btw I do have a good protocol outlined for me to try and I will be getting about 15 dif samples of juice both with and without flavor w/wo/ nicotine colors, flavors all ofthem are also separated in a VG only or PG only base.


No doubt this is best way to go......However, This will take a while for me to isolate and rule out ifin fact I do have some sort of intolerance from the above. Becausesince day one I have experienced a host of side effects fromwithdraw and then some. They never let up and sometimes got worse..For the record I have never had any food intolerance now any environmental triggers that caused an allergic reaction . I am NOT the allergic type. Anyways all my symptoms since trying totransition to vapng would take way to long to explain... So now Ineed to start with a base line of feeling somewhat good . with a a hangover headache and stomache acke sorta hard to tell what gets worse......
. Last 2 days im feeling better so now is the time im going to do these trials. TONIGHT i hope


first Q I have,
has anyone experienced right after they vaped. Maybe 2-5 hits ( in 10 min period) where there handsbecame warm.? Not the palms but outside side of hands ?


How bout head or ears getting warm ?
If so please specify exactly the sensation and what you did to isolate the issue
In your case was it found to be PGbase , or a VG base?


or was it something else found inthe compound such as artificial color or flavor?


How bout the nicotine anyone have a nicotine only issue?


Bonus Question How about same Q
Has anyone experienced right after they vaped. Maybe 2-5 hits ( in 10 min period) where their eyes and head got tired dopey feeling ?Almost the same as when you first gethigh, but its foggy not relaxing nor refreshing?


TIA


Kenny v

 

[jetcityman]

Kenny,

I have had a few side effects during the first month. They included loss of appetite,clammy hands and feet, warm ears, tightness in my throat and the biggest was insomnia. But i jumped in pretty fast, instantly got a vv mod with dual coils and was hitting at around 5.7-6.2 making huge clouds of vapor at 18 and 24 mg.. I chalked some of it up to to much nic and the rest to coming off of analogs and detoxing all the added chemicals. I cut back my nic, especially late in the evening. The insomnia lasted about 5 days. I also upped my water intake. All is going much better now and almost two months into vaping and im hooked.

Good luck, It will get easier.

Jet

 

[LV SuzyQ]

Hi Kenny,

I'm sorry you are having so many sensitivities. I'm sorry I can't be of any help but I hope you get them worked out cause I can see you are committed to vaping and trying to find answers. I hope there is someone here who can help.. Just wanted to say hi and tx for sharing

 

[KENNY V]

thanks so much....

yea had everything flue like symptoms, someone said they had 3 weeks of them . Thats not one of my big frustrations im a big boy and can take the detox part... Whats so hard has been since the first day till pretty much this past Sat ( finally got a break of a two week hangover) It been hard to discern why after a vape session stuff gets worse..... Just imagine 1st to 5th day in Never mind day 11-18 .. when you expect to feel better to finial have a vape and feel worse.....

ill rule everything out if I had half a clue what my body was saying and why? Again one reason why I have not posted as much is during the whole experience I had have the feeling of a hangover that has NOT quit . I had to do a trial and wait till it wore off but never did . Sorta hard to tell when something gets worse when you never knew what ok is supposed to feel like ...

Hope that made sense … But im getting closer problem is my body still needs a smoke and something to chill out. Last few days I been able to hold off an annog for a few . Otherwise my symptoms get woooorser if that made any sense .

if anyone is reading this understand I did cut myself down to 3 analogs so don't think I been smoking and trying to vape … more like the opposite or NOTHING at all

 

[beatlesfan]

Coming from a medical background with years of experience, I'd recommend that you see a doctor asap. It's better to be safe than sorry.

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[KENNY V]

Coming from a medical background with years of experience, I'd recommend that you see a doctor asap. It's better to be safe than sorry.

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i appreciate your concern but im ok....
I have one Q for you do ya have clinical experience …

FWIW da you think this is any dif than practicing medicine . Ill be fine , felt better today than I did 21 days ago...

Ran 4 miles yesterday and in fact experienced hypoxia for the first time in first 2 miles usually have a stitch in side and have to slow down....lol......

to be honest thats actuality a good sign finial breathing real air..... and at the 3 mile mark I felt the best I ever felt in a LONG time. The last mile was a gift from God... Total peace that lasted 6 hours no smoke no vape nothing...

 

[beatlesfan]

i appreciate your concern but im ok....
I have one Q for you do ya have clinical experience …

FWIW da you think this is any dif than practicing medicine . Ill be fine , felt better today than I did 21 days ago...

Ran 4 miles yesterday and in fact experienced hypoxia for the first time in first 2 miles usually have a stitch in side and have to slow down....lol......

to be honest thats actuality a good sign finial breathing real air..... and at the 3 mile mark I felt the best I ever felt in a LONG time. The last mile was a gift from God... Total peace that lasted 6 hours no smoke no vape nothing...

My clinical experience comes from working in ERs everyday, practicing ALS EMS for the past 8 years, and re-certification every two years. You're definitely improving your health by not smoking anymore. I had never experienced those symptoms and signs that you described, and it worried me slightly. I really think you should see a doctor just in case. I would hate for you to be having an allergic reaction to something in the juice/flavoring. Burning/itching/reddening could very well be signs and symptoms of an allergic reaction.

 

[KENNY V]

My clinical experience comes from working in ERs everyday, practicing ALS EMS for the past 8 years, and re-certification every two years. You're definitely improving your health by not smoking anymore. I had never experienced those symptoms and signs that you described, and it worried me slightly. I really think you should see a doctor just in case. I would hate for you to be having an allergic reaction to something in the juice/flavoring. Burning/itching/reddening could very well be signs and symptoms of an allergic reaction.

No burn no itch no red … I dont think its an allergic reaction ..
thanks again I understand but looking to asscoate sytems to rule out ,,, I am going low and slow .
I listen to my body that is best clinical experiences I have yet.

In fact right now im ( as I write this) I am doing trials to rule out VG/PG basses
so how bout If get a reaction from either base is that now from the nicotine and delivery doc?

Im not being wise wise guy but do u know? Cuz if something from both what else is left????????


practicing medicine what makes it any dif than the white coats prescribing off label drugs to folks that dont even know what that means esp for a diagnosis that dont exist in other countries??? Gocha on that one

No burn no itch no red … I dont think its an allergic reaction ..

so now tell me about the Auto immine system doc Is it that smart to reject it all cuz it wants the poison sticks.... ?

Wat ya say doc ? Been thinking about this 21 days now

 

[beatlesfan]

No burn no itch no red … I dont think its an allergic reaction ..
thanks again I understand but looking to asscoate sytems to rule out ,,, I am going low and slow .
I listen to my body that is best clinical experiences I have yet.

In fact right now im ( as I write this) I am doing trials to rule out VG/PG basses
so how bout If get a reaction from either base is that now from the nicotine and delivery doc?

Im not being wise wise guy but do u know? Cuz if something from both what else is left????????


practicing medicine what makes it any dif than the white coats prescribing off label drugs to folks that dont even know what that means esp for a diagnosis that dont exist in other countries??? Gocha on that one

No burn no itch no red … I dont think its an allergic reaction ..

so now tell me about the Auto immine system doc Is it that smart to reject it all cuz it wants the poison sticks.... ?

Wat ya say doc ? Been thinking about this 21 days now

Haha I highly doubt that your body wants the poison sticks back. I'm not a doc by the way, simply a Paramedic. Your body could just be reacting to the new chemicals being introduced to it. When we all started smoking, our body's freaked out at that. We coughed and gagged, but it went away. This could too, but don't take any risks. Stop by a clinic sometime. You can walk right in and see a doctor for $30 or less. Even if you have insurance, it's often times cheaper to go to a clinic.

 

[KENNY V]

Haha I highly doubt that your body wants the poison sticks back. I'm not a doc by the way, simply a Paramedic. Your body could just be reacting to the new chemicals being introduced to it. When we all started smoking, our body's freaked out at that. We coughed and gagged, but it went away. This could too, but don't take any risks. Stop by a clinic sometime. You can walk right in and see a doctor for $30 or less. Even if you have insurance, it's often times cheaper to go to a clinic.

Im not being wise wise guy but do u know if I try plain VG 8 mg and plain PG 8mg if its NOT something from both what else is left??????

the type and delivery of the nicotine right?

enough.... next time I go to doc will be to sew my arm back on otherwise ill stay healthy learning what i did over the past 10 years....

30 bucks I can get a massage , go fishing else buy a bottle of red hunk of Aiziago and a loaf of nice semolina and feel better than that .

 

[KENNY V]

thanks so much....

yea had everything flue like symptoms, someone said they had 3 weeks of them . Thats not one of my big frustrations im a big boy and can take the detox part... Whats so hard has been since the first day till pretty much this past Sat ( finally got a break of a two week hangover) It been hard to discern why after a vape session stuff gets worse..... Just imagine 1st to 5th day in Never mind day 11-18 .. when you expect to feel better to finial have a vape and feel worse.....

ill rule everything out if I had half a clue what my body was saying and why? Again one reason why I have not posted as much is during the whole experience I had have the feeling of a hangover that has NOT quit . I had to do a trial and wait till it wore off but never did . Sorta hard to tell when something gets worse when you never knew what ok is supposed to feel like ...

Hope that made sense … But im getting closer problem is my body still needs a smoke and something to chill out. Last few days I been able to hold off an annog for a few . Otherwise my symptoms get woooorser if that made any sense .

if anyone is reading this understand I did cut myself down to 3 analogs so don't think I been smoking and trying to vape … more like the opposite or NOTHING at all

Better day report
some of ya's s know I been having a rough time... Here is a few bullet points and a recap.
Last week only had 1-2 two times that I had a sense of well being since the beginning of transitioning to vaping . Long story short I had bad withdrawals from day One . I went tooooo quick to fast.... .On the 11th day had the worst experience in my life I ever want to remember. And that would take a long time to explain so ill save that for another day . Good news is im over that period and doing well getting the hang of vaping and trying to get into a replacement routine to get off the smokes . NOT ABLE YET

Now because Of not being able to vape without residual side effects ( other than detox) I thought it was the base mix too much not enough nicotine , everything so I CUT vaping out and cut all my juice. Problem was I cut my juice with one suppliers flavor (VG base) so everything still had 50% or more of that base in it. Anyways lots of variables here so . this is NOT ruled out yet because my trials need to be done when I feel good. Last night was first night to be able to do a “real trial” since starting ,besides, just received all my samples for the trials yesterday .

today is day 22 into detox. I did get WTA Magic Juice 4 days ago and been doing trials. lucky I ordered them with both VG/VG base so I can at least try each day a dif one to see if one is better than other .

I did read that all bases still have VG in it and same goes for VG mix so I think you have to get that info from the manufacture if not sure on the mix
Yesterday afternoon was was one time was 1st time I got an ahaa!!! and was satisfied. Sunday was my first day with no hangover to even discern if the reactions been having was form base or not.

Overview yesterday was one of the best days I have had yet getting a good vape session that lasted 1-1/2 hours . All I have to say it was first time I was satisfied without all the other junk.... it was short lived buy hey I found it... I learned allot last few days in what my body needs and how long till I need it again.. problem is dose frequency and timing to get it right before all the unpleasant effects kick in . Again its confusing to vape and feel worse and not get the good calming effects and then when you finial get something that works then it fades in and out and then gets worse if you try to keep it at bay .... that has been my experience from the beginning however the detox part was hell.
If that doent makes sense than please do not ask.... thats it for now
take care

 

[KENNY V]

Had a Ahaaaaaaaaaa!! F-in moment drippen the Magic juice . Yea!... mon

Its nice when you finally get full after NOT eating for so long. Now how ya keep it goin.. is the Q
only have a pounder but its worth every bit of it...

Little sunshine today. Yeaah

Just fig I share that with anyone thats been rooting in my corner corner....

Vape on man....

 

[rh426]

Kenny, here is something for you to consider:

PG has been known to cause irritation for some people, VG however is 100% organic. To rule out PG is would be best to stick to a 100% VG for a week or so to see if that changes anything... My Aunt was having trouble breathing due to the 100% PG base she was using.

 

[KENNY V]

Had a Ahaaaaaaaaaa!! F-in moment drippen the Magic juice . Yea!... mon

Its nice when you finally get full after NOT eating for so long. Now how ya keep it goin.. is the Q
only have a pounder but its worth every bit of it...

Little sunshine today. Yeaah

Just fig I share that with anyone thats been rooting in my corner corner....

Vape on man....

Ditto

Little more sunshine today. Yeaah

 

[KENNY V]

I learned allot last few days in what my body needs and how long till I need it again.. problem is dose frequency and timing to get it right before all the unpleasant effects kick in . Again its confusing to vape and feel worse and not get the good calming effects and then when you finial get something that works then it fades in and out and then gets worse if you try to keep it at bay ....

Had a somewhat ok week …... outside of Burt tongue , no-cant taste my jounce and having to to chase the full feeling all the time ..well just reporting its getting better but ONLY from the help if of Magic juice , Equipment equipment equipment , accessories accessories and more accessories.
Lots of trial and error... ill tell ya one thing smoking was more convenient with out all the side effects

 

[LuV2SkRaTcH]

Have you been hydrating a lot since vaping? Because it sure does dehydrate you. As far as the headaches and stuff, When I first started I'd get it all the time and knew it was from the 36mg big juices I was vaping. Also, to ease myself off analogs, I'd have one in the morning, then vape a few puffs every few minutes to get the steady dose of nic. Noticed myself not craving for cigarettes when the dose of nic in my system didn't have a chance to drop or raise really fast. If I notice the symptoms of too much nic, I'd eat something and drink plenty of water, then ease my vaping back.

 

[KENNY V]

Have you been hydrating a lot since vaping? Because it sure does dehydrate you. As far as the headaches and stuff, When I first started I'd get it all the time and knew it was from the 36mg big juices I was vaping. Also, to ease myself off analogs, I'd have one in the morning, then vape a few puffs every few minutes to get the steady dose of nic. Noticed myself not craving for cigarettes when the dose of nic in my system didn't have a chance to drop or raise really fast. If I notice the symptoms of too much nic, I'd eat something and drink plenty of water, then ease my vaping back.

Getting better every day, last few days im pretty much stabilized now mani i crashed big time./.... now trying to get into a routine. Lots of things were going on all at once .For one
was not getting what I needed both juice and delivery, purged myself. Too quick too fast Dang bum carto's the works'.

Anyways when you say vaped every few minutes can you explain what ya meant and your day vaping ?
thanks

I see myself needing to vape like every hour.... I finialy got to speak with a fellow vaper today and he said i should up my NicNicotinewith all those side effeffects diddint know what hit me so I stayed pretty low .. next few days should be better

 

[LuV2SkRaTcH]

Getting better every day, last few days im pretty much stabilized now mani i crashed big time./.... now trying to get into a routine. Lots of things were going on all at once .For one
was not getting what I needed both juice and delivery, purged myself. Too quick too fast Dang bum carto's the works'.

Anyways when you say vaped every few minutes can you explain what ya meant and your day vaping ?
thanks

I see myself needing to vape like every hour.... I finialy got to speak with a fellow vaper today and he said i should up my NicNicotinewith all those side effeffects diddint know what hit me so I stayed pretty low .. next few days should be better

I take a few puffs every few minutes or so before I crave for a cigarette but not too much to a point where I get "nicced out". If you're still smoking cigarettes, I'd smoke if I start getting agitated or in the mornings. You'll feel the nicotine slower vaping compared to smoking, which can cause new vapers to get the over nic feeling.

Kind of like hunger (especially if you're diabetic). If you're super hungry, you'll most likely eat a lot and feel FULL. But if you maintain smaller portions more frequently, you won't feel the need to eat so much.

That's the way I see it, but recognized the signs of having too much nicotine, and adjusted how much I vaped.

 

[KENNY V]

I take a few puffs every few minutes or so before I crave for a cigarette but not too much to a point where I get "nicced out". If you're still smoking cigarettes, I'd smoke if I start getting agitated or in the mornings. You'll feel the nicotine slower vaping compared to smoking, which can cause new vapers to get the over nic feeling.

Kind of like hunger (especially if you're diabetic). If you're super hungry, you'll most likely eat a lot and feel FULL. But if you maintain smaller portions more frequently, you won't feel the need to eat so much.

That's the way I see it, but recognized the signs of having too much nicotine, and adjusted how much I vaped.

thanks allot u have no idea what i went through I fasted for 11-18days then crashed .
It was scarry man.. the entire time I was not getting much of anything and was not able to vape either .Wish i would had some help ..what i mean was personal help other than reading ..
I thought i was getting too much and cut my nicotine even further, Las tweek or so I learned allot and was able to at least stabilize myself... Cuz I was notgetting full and the juice was not the magic juice .
yea ure not kidding like a diabetic I had every sytom in the book ( 3 weeks of flue syptoms)
A co worker who is a smoker and also a diabetic checked my blood bc he said my syproms wer pretty bad... That day after i ate lunch he checked my blood sugar and said I was fine infact in good shape forwhat I had for lunch. So I suspect most of my issues was too quick tooooooooo fast and all withdrawal symtoms and the anxiety of not getting proper nicione But i know deep down it was the juice too. Now I have the magic juice so I should fair better. Well its like i needed to start all over again. Back down to 3 smokes a day, so next few weeks I should be better off than I was 25 days ago when I decided to quit those posion sticks once and for all.
THANKS for all u guys help.

Now Bare with me but what are all the symptoms for nicotine Od so ill know when to slow down. ? Sorry man its been a rough ride u have no idea what I put my body through ,.

 

[boardopboy]

Hey Kenny... First off.. I have seen it suggested a few times in this thread, but I haven't seen you respond to it... WATER! You got to stay hydrated. The bases (both PG and VG) are humectants... meaning the are drawing water from your system... robbing you of your hydration. you need to be taking in at least 64 ounces of water a day... as a vaper, you should pretty much double that. When I first started, I had many of these same symptoms. They didn't get better until I started drinking more and more and more water. These days... the water has turned into habit, and I actually prefer it over sodas, juices and (god forbid!) my coffee! Please.. be sure you are hydrating properly!!! I, and thousands of other vapers on this forum CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!

Now here is where it gets tricky... Nic OVERDOSE symptoms... are very similar to Nic withdraw symptoms! Irritability, headaches, restlessness, insomnia, etc. It's a tricky balancing act. For me... I figured if I was feeling this way and hadn't vaped in a while, I wasn't getting enough... If I felt the symptoms and had been vaping.. well then I was over doing it!

Your smoking habit was very similar to mine.. though for a few years less... I started vaping at 36mg! Talk about conflicting symptoms! ODing on nic while withdrawing from it?!?! Whoa! So I dropped it to 24mg and found that while the problems weren't quite as bad, they were still there. Now I am at 18mg, drinking plenty of water, and loving life! I haven't even had one of those damn migraines I got so often while smoking!

Stick with it... stay hydrated, and be patient while dialing in your chosen nic level. And please.. if after all this, you still feel like crud... see a doctor!

Oh, and stay hydrated!!!

Did I mention you need to stay hydrated?