VapeCige Vtbox200

[footbag]

So... That male plug's leads are live, right?

That's the thing that bothers me about this mod. If I had a facebook, I'd go on and ask a bunch of questions. mostly wondering whether all of them are going to be the same.

 

[dwcraig1]

I read this some where, that it's this battery: Lion Power 11 1v 1500mAh 40C Max 60C 3S LiPo Battery for RC Car Helicopter US | eBay
It tested out around 1230 mah.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

I read this some where, that it's this battery: Lion Power 11 1v 1500mAh 40C Max 60C 3S LiPo Battery for RC Car Helicopter US | eBay
It tested out around 1230 mah.

That's probably it, 1500mah, unless you think lion power made vape cige a special Lipo, which I doubt, that would cost too much and or take too much time to develop.

 

[dwcraig1]

That's probably it, 1500mah, unless you think lion power made vape cige a special Lipo, which I doubt, that would cost too much and or take too much time to develop.

It was a battery from a Vapecige they claimed to have tested if my memory serves me correctly.

 

[TheBloke]

Where you at @TheBloke, I need some reassuring. Tell me everythings gonna be ok. Man I hope this thing ships before the 14th.

It's got an ETA now, I'm confident it'll ship on the new ETA Albeit a shame that's 11 days away!

 

[footbag]

I've been perusing the POTV board group buy. Here is a list of issues I've seen...

Battery Male connector
Broken Resistor (won't fire)
Not Charging
Loose 510
Loose cover magnets

I'm hoping they fixed a few of the issues. The battery connector is my main concern, but they have stated that they will be fixing them. They also said they would fix the 510.

It also looks like some of the mods had a resistor popped when they were being assembled.

I'm still optimistic that I'll get a working mod. Even if I have to do some gluing.

I'm already thinking about getting rid of all the vape cige logos. Maybe even doing wood battery doors. I think I'll be treating this as a DIY box. I'll probably try 2x18650's as well.

Nothing to do but watch my ETA and dream...

 

[dwcraig1]

I've been perusing the POTV board group buy. Here is a list of issues I've seen...

Battery Male connector
Broken Resistor (won't fire)
Not Charging
Loose 510
Loose cover magnets

I'm hoping they fixed a few of the issues. The battery connector is my main concern, but they have stated that they will be fixing them. They also said they would fix the 510.

It also looks like some of the mods had a resistor popped when they were being assembled.

I'm still optimistic that I'll get a working mod. Even if I have to do some gluing.

I'm already thinking about getting rid of all the vape cige logos. Maybe even doing wood battery doors. I think I'll be treating this as a DIY box. I'll probably try 2x18650's as well.

Nothing to do but watch my ETA and dream...

The connector is only a concern when not plugged in so not too much of a concern (at the moment) for me. I agree, a DIY box.

 

[footbag]

The connector is only a concern when not plugged in so not too much of a concern (at the moment) for me. I agree, a DIY box.

If you never unplug it, then it's probably fine. But, if you touch that thing to the side of the case, you could kill the battery. That's my only big concern. I do think I'll be attempting to find a different battery. Definitely a 2x18650, but also maybe another Lipo.

 

[TheBloke]

If you have a soldering iron it's very easy to change those plugs. But I realise that won't help a lot of potential buyers.

Then again, how often will one disconnect the battery? And even if one wants to change battery, many/most alternative batteries come with different plugs anyway - at least the ones I've looked at have. Which means that replacing the battery is probably not for normal users anyway.

So it might be a bit of a moot issue, as long as you keep the cables connected which I believe most users will have to do anyway.

 

[Vlad1]

One of the selling points on this to me was the battery capacity compared to other devices being released. The advertised 1800 mah is twice of most devices being made in volume negating the need to swap batteries throughout the day. I stress advertised because we really don't know the actual capacity or been able to test one yet, but even if it turns out to be 1500 mah that's significantly more than what appears to be the norm of 900 mah in most other devices.

 

[TheBloke]

Yeah it makes the 900 Hana v2 look paltry.

 

[Daisychainvaper]

or this hotcig thing with 900

 

[footbag]

Lol! At least we can knock the other DNA200 mods over something. 900 is not enough. I'm hoping we are at least looking at 1500mah. if it's 1800ma, then all the better.

Despite all of the issues, I'm pretty darn excited about this one.

 

[TheBloke]

As we're discussing battery plugs and potentially changing them, I thought I should add this standard warning:

if you change the battery plugs on a Lipo, you will need to cut off the existing plug. When doing so, never cut through both wires at once. Always one at a time.

If you do so you are very likely to create a hard short between the two wires, going through your wire cutters/scissors/knife. Cut one wire first, then pull it as far away as possible before cutting the other. Use a helping hands or insulating tape or whatever to keep them separate until and while you are soldering/crimping the new connector on.

(Sorry, I can't remember who to credit for telling me about this. It was someone in the DNA 200 thread. Since then I've also seen it in every YouTube video I've watched that discuss Lipo connectors, usually in an RC context.)

 

[Adekastos]

So if we charge the battery only via usb we wont have any problem with the male connector if they dont change to a female one?

 

[footbag]

So if we charge the battery only via usb we wont have any problem with the male connector if they dont change to a female one?

It shouldn't matter at all if you are not removing them.

If you do remove it for any reason, you should be very careful. I'm kind of surprised this isn't causing an issue for the manufacturer. How do you plug/unplug those without shorting them? Even the mod case could conduct.

I don't toss my 18650's in my cars change trays because of the potential of shorts even though it would be unlikely. If you tossed one of these lipo's in, it would almost certainly short.

 

[sd3614]

As we're discussing battery plugs and potentially changing them, I thought I should add this standard warning:

if you change the battery plugs on a Lipo, you will need to cut off the existing plug. When doing so, never cut through both wires at once. Always one at a time.

If you do so you are very likely to create a hard short between the two wires, going through your wire cutters/scissors/knife. Cut one wire first, then pull it as far away as possible before cutting the other. Use a helping hands or insulating tape or whatever to keep them separate until and while you are soldering/crimping the new connector on.

(Sorry, I can't remember who to credit for telling me about this. It was someone in the DNA 200 thread. Since then I've also seen it in every YouTube video I've watched that discuss Lipo connectors, usually in an RC context.)

That is correct, similar to any one who has had some car audio back ground. As you scissor through a hot and and ground it is the same as touching hot to ground creating a dead short. It does not always destroy stuff but not a good practice.

 

[sd3614]

Lol! At least we can knock the other DNA200 mods over something. 900 is not enough. I'm hoping we are at least looking at 1500mah. if it's 1800ma, then all the better.

Despite all of the issues, I'm pretty darn excited about this one.

If it performs realistically as a 1200-1300 it would still even be better than the 900's. I have a feeling that is where it actually will land when tested.

 

[TheBloke]

If you do remove it for any reason, you should be very careful. I'm kind of surprised this isn't causing an issue for the manufacturer. How do you plug/unplug those without shorting them? Even the mod case could conduct.

I don't toss my 18650's in my cars change trays because of the potential of shorts even though it would be unlikely. If you tossed one of these lipo's in, it would almost certainly short.

Yeah. The only time I've ever shorted a battery is a good example of how risky it is.

I have some 18650 battery trays, like the ones you see in mods, and was using them to experiment with my new oscilloscope. It's much easier to clip wires onto the little legs of the battery tray than the battery themselves.

That was all fine, but I foolishly left the battery in the tray, just lying on my desk. "It's not plugged into anything", I thought.

Later I was probing my new, cheap, Chinese 4-wire ohm reader with the oscilloscope. Suddenly I could smell burning. I freaked out, unclipped everything from the ohm reader, turned off the oscilloscope. I thought I had somehow shorted or blown up the ohm reader.

But I smelt it and it was fine, and not warm either.

Then I looked around and saw the battery holder, against which I had pushed a long screwdriver I had just pushed it out the way to make room for other stuff.

Slightly melted the battery holder around the legs, but not terminally. I threw the battery straight in the bin without even testing it. Fortunately it was only an EFest, one of my cheapest/worst 18650s.

But thank god it happened while I was there, and I hadn't happen to push the screwdriver or anything else metallic against it and then left the room.

As you say, with those Lipo plugs with pins close together, absolutely anything could short them.

Really daft, schoolboy error on their part.

 

[footbag]

Yeah. The only time I've ever shorted a battery is a good example of how risky it is.

I have some 18650 battery trays, like the ones you see in mods, and was using them to experiment with my new oscilloscope. It's much easier to clip wires onto the little legs of the battery tray than the battery themselves.

That was all fine, but I foolishly left the battery in the tray, just lying on my desk. "It's not plugged into anything", I thought.

Later I was probing my new, cheap, Chinese 4-wire ohm reader with the oscilloscope. Suddenly I could smell burning. I freaked out, unclipped everything from the ohm reader, turned off the oscilloscope. I thought I had somehow shorted or blown up the ohm reader.

But I smelt it and it was fine, and not warm either.

Then I looked around and saw the battery holder, against which I had pushed a long screwdriver I had just pushed it out the way to make room for other stuff.

Slightly melted the battery holder around the legs, but not terminally. I threw the battery straight in the bin without even testing it. Fortunately it was only an EFest, one of my cheapest/worst 18650s.

But thank god it happened while I was there, and I hadn't happen to push the screwdriver or anything else metallic against it and then left the room.

As you say, with those Lipo plugs with pins close together, absolutely anything could short them.

Really daft, schoolboy error on their part.

Batteries with opposing +'s and -'s are a very under-appreciated design. Even dropping them in a tray of change or keys is a fairly safe thing to do(BUT DON'T!!!). An 18650 without a wrap becomes very dangerous.

Don't you think there was a single Chinese worker building the VTBox200, who said "Hey Boss, look sparks!" To be honest, I wouldn't want those batteries in a building I owned. Major fire hazard! I know I wouldn't sleep too well at night.