"Vapeonly BCC", 3.5ml bottom coil in T3 style.

[Gunner83]

Got mine in yesterday. I'm using the head that was pre-installed, which is reading at 2.2ohms. It performs just like a Vivi Nova, for me. Just without the need to tip, when the juice is low.

My only complaint is the airy draw, but I also haven't tried any of my normal drip tips on it. I've been using the "whistle tip" that it comes with. Maybe that will make a difference.

Other than that, I like it. It feels really solid and looks good (I got the smoke version). I haven't gotten any plastic or burnt tastes.

 

[ainako]

3.5ml VapeOnly BCC (Bottom Coil Changeable) Clearomizer

Just ordered a family of these from here, I love my vivis but the performance drop at the last of the tank is starting to get on me. Here's hoping these perform better. I plan on rewicking with hemp on these bad boys

 

[Hallmf66]

OK SOOO... "Vapeonly BCC"...."Kanger EVOD MT BCC" ....and the "Kanger M-T3".... who thinks what is the best and why? These all BASICALLY seem the same to be besides the obvious differences (Vapeonly). And I cant tell a difference between the EVOD and the M-T3. So that adds to the confusion. BUT Basically, its gonna come down to which one of these new guys is performing and holding up the best?

 

[Dysmay]

Just got my vapeonly yesterday, looks fantastic, but man I can not get a good hit off this thing, its horrid, dry burnt taste every time. So I removed the white cap that sits over the wicks, and also tried flipping the cap, then ended up trying to trim the cap, and these all worked to remove the burnt taste but... then it would just flood and end up leaking through the mouth piece. I tried a second head with it and same results, so Im really not happy with it. I have the eVod and this works flawlessly other than some gurgles once in awhile, but the juices in it are never burnt. I use it at 8.5 watts all the time with no issues unlike the Vapeonly Burning Charcoal Consumption device.

 

[mainevaper]

I just ordered one yesterday. I can't imagine the vape is gonna be any better than a t3, I ordered it cuz its a bit shorter than a t3, and a tad wider, which will hopefully balance out a bit better.
I'm not concerned about the wicks/coils that come with it, as I'll prolly just toss em and rebuild my own.

 

[gil schwartzman]

I got mine today, and it looks fantastic on an Evic. They were clearly made for each other. I filled it up and got the same nasty burnt taste everyone has been talking about. Tasted like crap. I tried both the 2.2ohm and the 2.5ohm head, both sucked. So, I took apart one of the heads to see what was going on. I removed the extra wicking so that only the wick wrapped by the coil was left. It was an instant delight after doing that... tons of flavor with no burnt taste. So far, no flooding. Hopefully it stays that way. The one thing I didn't like about the T3 was that it was a cool vape. This is not, I'm getting plenty of warmth. Flavor is about on par with a Vivi Nova. Now that I've got the dry hits straightened out, this thing is really great, especially on top of the evic.

 

[zipflint]

FWIW, I'm still using the same 2.2Ohm head that came attached to the base, and I've filled it maybe.....10 times. Just rinsing under hot tap water. I still haven't tried any 100% VG though. But except for the first one or two hits outta-the-box, I've not had any dry hits or burnt taste or chemical gunk. I'm always on some kind of VV device, usually right around 4Volts.

I don't know if that helps anyone or not....I find the flavor and vapor to be about the same as I get from a T3 and eVod. My Vivi Nova I gave up on. I got nothing but low vapor/flavor and dry hits from that. So....go figure. Consistency (and lack thereof) seems to be the biggest plague in the Goody Delivery Device industry.....

 

[veganvap]

"OK SOOO... "Vapeonly BCC"...."Kanger EVOD MT BCC" ....and the "Kanger M-T3".... who thinks what is the best and why?"

There's also the new Kanger Protank which is better than all other Kangers. I would say choose between the protank and the VO Mega. As^ said, remove the extra flavor wick or don't use the factory-made coils and it should fix burnt hits and work fine.

Here are the differences with a process of elimination:

Kanger MT3 Vs EVOD: EVOD is quite smaller but holds almost as much (2.4 vs 3ml). Both have metal enclosure to protect if dropped. EVOD replacement heads are about half the price and easier to rebuild. The MT3 uses T3 heads which include the whole tank base so they cost more to buy and are harder to rebuild because you have to work in a small area inside the base, opposed to EVOD heads which unscrews from the base and are easier to work with. So EVOD's better. The mini AKA baby t3 only holds 1.7ml and is the same size as an EVOD but without the metal jacket and doesn't use the better coils so forget about the mini T3.

EVOD vs Protank: The new Protank is glass which is safer to use and stands up to any liquid like acidic ones or cinnamons that can crack plastic tanks. It's thick, but not enclosed in metal (probably like two weeks after everyone buys the current protank, Kanger will release one enclosed in metal, and then about two weeks later will release one with a replaceable tip). The Protank can use EVOD heads with a little modification, but the replacement coils should be just as cheap and are just as easy to rebuild as EVOD ones. Protank holds 2.5ml. I don't know the height, but I think it's about as tall as an evod, which is short. It's thicker because of the thick glass. It's about $18 compared to a $6 evod, but includes two spare heads and a large sleeve skirt which strengthens the vaporizer base if you use it on an eGo-sized battery and people say it looks better. Easily learn to rebuild coils and you won't have to buy any spare heads (possibly extra shipping or needing to buy an EVOD 5-pack which would make the price of an EVOD with spare heads equal to the Protank which includes three heads that you can just keep re-building).

Now Protank vs Mega: The only things I think Mega has over protank is if you want 3.5ml and the replaceable tip. The Mega has plastic tank threads which can strip whereas all the others have metal to metal threads. I think the Mega coil head pops into an o-ring on the base which might leak instead of screwing in like all the rest. However, the Mega's the only one that you can replace the tip on, so I'm still considering it because I can't stand hard plastic tips and prefer rubber. I'm either getting a Mega or waiting because I can almost guarantee Kanger will release a glass protank with a replaceable tip soon.

Keep in mind that the EVOD's the thinnest and maybe shorter than the Protank, but it holds almost as much as the rest (except mega, but I think 3.5ml's too much unless you vape low or no nicotine), so if size is an issue, like if you carry in pocket, you might want to just get an evod.

 

[zipflint]

That's a great breakdown. I'd be interested in building my own coils if I didn't have carpal tunnel issues in both hands. Even AFTER the two surgeries my fingers are still numb and clumsy. I can't even play guitar/bass or use my camera like I used to. But at least the excruciating PAIN is mostly gone....

Also, once I've learned to build coils, then I've got one less obstacle (the other being that I'm broke all the time) between me and a genesis-style device. And I just cannot afford one of those.

But yeah, I would imagine the weakest link in all of these mass-produced devices is the coil/wick, and once you're making your own, you've probably solved 90% of the issues.

 

[veganvap]

That sucks about your hands, maybe get a keyboard or electro dum kit.

Someone in the classifieds should build a ton of coils so that people who have trouble building them will only have to do the last step of putting the 2 wires through the base, re-inserting the grounding grommet, then trimming the excess wire.

Yea, I don't think the mega could not perform as well as a kanger. If it does, it's probably a poorly made coil with coils touching eachother or wrapped to tight or something like that. I get dry hits on a new MT3 head with thick %100 VG, so I remove one or both of the mini flavor wicks and works fine and doesn't gurgle.

 

[zipflint]

Heh, yeah I play keyboards/piano as well. Even that gets difficult after about 15 minutes.

I would be ABSOLUTELY down to buy a stack of hand-built coils from someone on these boards. Lots of skilled folks on here!

 

[ainako]

Just gone mine in, I rewicked it using 4 strands of 1mm hemp. Just letting her soak for a few

Also, I'm pretty sure these tanks are polycarb, the vivi you can tell are polypro by the sound it makes when you tap on it.

 

[mainevaper]

Someone in the classifieds should build a ton of coils so that people who have trouble building them will only have to do the last step of putting the 2 wires through the base, re-inserting the grounding grommet, then trimming the excess wire.

A lot of vendors already make these. I would consider it myself, but I really don't see a way to make it worth it, without charging as much, or more than the vendors most of us already use for our supplies.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I got a couple of Vapeonly tanks and a Evod and like them both. I haven't got any dry or burnt hits on either of them. Does anyone know a supplier that has the Kanger Pro tank in stock?

 

[veganvap]

^ try the protank threads, but I think Sun Vapers said on his website he's looking at March to even place an order plus the long await for China mail. European, Australian, and even Canadian vedors had the Evod about a week before the USA ones did, so if you want to pay a lot for shipping, you can try that. I think they're doing a co-op straight from Kanger in a Protank thread though, so that should be quicker. I'm waiting to see if they make a glassomizer with metal enclosure and replaceable tip and I won't have to worry about new products for a long time unless some game changer comes out, like something with a plate instead of coils that lasts longer and/or a wickless system.


Re: Mainevaper, I know they almost all sell coils heads, but I'm talking about someone with a bunch of extra wick and wire just wrapping universal coils, which I've never seen for sale. Actually, it wouldn't be worth it for a buyer who has problems with coil making since the hard parts getting the wire ends through the coil then popping the grommet and posite post back in and trimming the excess. But like zipflint said, the whole unit and done with the skill some people here have making the spacing, wick, tightness and everything just right might be worth it.


"Heh, yeah I play keyboards/piano as well. Even that gets difficult after about 15 minutes"

I don't care for weighted keys myself. You can always get a light/mid-action midi controller and a VST synth/program and point and click and have a very elaborate digital version of almost any instrument.


Back to VO Mega, does the coil head not use screws and pops into an o-ring and has the potential to leak out the tank?

 

[ainako]

This thing is performing flawlessly! 32g wrapped 4 times 1.7ohms on 4 strands of 1mm hemp wick. This tank is so good I gonna throw my vivis in the bin.

 

[zipflint]

That is correct. The coil unit does indeed just pop into the base. It's secure, and I have had zero leakage so far, but I can imagine it would be a concern. It's a pretty big rubber grommet though.
::shrugs::

Back to VO Mega, does the coil head not use screws and pops into an o-ring and has the potential to leak out the tank?

 

[warriorwolf]

Hmm. Because it's a bottom coil AND the tip is replaceable this would be a perfect tank for a Pipe I would think.

Epipmod angled connection, flange, Tank, Cherry vape uninversal, Churchwarden stem.

Confirmed with Brian and Epipemods via facebook, this tank will work great with their pipes as an option over the Jazz carto tank

 

[fed71]

CRAZY-I made ​​a complete gutting Vapeonly BCC Mega. I think the results will be interesting. I apologize for any errors of translation ... Google, you know.

NOTE! Do not try this if you do not know what to do! For advanced users only! Incorrect actions will lead malfunctions.

That's how it looked in the beginning.

Complete disassembly.

1. Driptip plastic
2. O-ring from driptip
3. Cover top (anodized aluminum)
4. central duct (SS, is attached to the number 3)
5. duct area (brass plated, attached to the number 4 and is adjacent to the assembly after the number 9)
6. Vial (what was left of it)
7. upper O-ring flasks
8. bottom of the flask-ring
9. gasket (mounted on the evaporator)
10. trunk evaporator (torsional part number 4, stainless steel)

11. Latch evaporator (mounted on number 10, chrome plated brass)
12. Spiral, which are stacked on top of the data strings, and not create a short circuit between the coil and the number 11
13. The body of the evaporator (stainless)
14. Latch evaporator (SS. necessary so that the evaporator snaps on number 19)
15. insulator evaporator
16. central contact evaporator
17. Siliuon seal (attached to the number 19 and serves as a seal between the number 6 and number 18)
18. housing device (anodized aluminum)
19. Base with connector (anodized brass)
20. insulator
21. central contact

In the end, all of the head's does not work - at all available in the kit is present burnt taste. After replacing the coil, he still earned quite well, basically indistinguishable from the Viva Nova (the one that is plump), with the same advantages and disadvantages, only if we ignore the small Periodicity with short circuit.

To avoid short circuit:
Put the wick on top of the assembled and mounted spiral. This is because the top cover with a proboscis, snap on the evaporator is in contact with the coil.
I liked the device looks, good finish, not start to burn even after the burner, I examined it with its help. Because all parts are glued together, it looks good too. If you configure and modify it and steam is also not bad. Vial thick 2mm, capacity promised in 3.5 ml (did not took it), Drip-type standard 510.
Of the downsides of course, I would add the fact that the bulb is not replaced, the upper part is not removable, but maybe someone will turn out. Condensation under Drip type formed in a sufficient amount, which forces to carry a towel. Device itself is nice though, but that's on the PV looks he is certainly not a good deal. But this is my IMHO.

The result - a device for fans of modding. They run it fast enough, and will receive a lot of tasty vapor.
And for those who "sat down and went," he unfortunately will not work.

 

[mainevaper]

Well that was kinda hard to understand... lol
The pics ain't showin neither