Vaping' and e-cigarettes: A new nicotine habit

[hobbes4]

At the end of the article:

SOURCES:

-U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Electronic cigarettes
-American Cancer Society. Guide to Quitting Smoking
-American Lung Association. American Lung Association joins public health advocates to urge FDA to pull e-cigarettes from marketplace.
-World Health Organization. Marketers of electronic cigarettes should halt unproved therapy claims.
-U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Import refusal report.


...enough said.

 

[jj2]

Louis Neipris, M.D., Staff Writer, myOptumHealth

Neipris also writes articles for AARP. I contacted them and informed them of what I thought of the article. As an after thought, I should have included links to some of the stories I've read here--especially those where doctors approved of the results of vaping.
Since I don't want to contact them again this soon, if someone else does, including the links would be great.
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[DC2]

Why not say in all by one it was proven that e-cigs contain no carcinogenic material.

Just to be clear, they found around six or seven different nitrosamines, which are carcinogens.
These nitrosamines come from the extraction of nicotine from tobacco.

They are also found in smoking cessation products in approximately the same amounts.
And of course they are also found in real cigarettes, but in much, much, much higher amounts.

The amount of these carcinogens they found, however, is so low as to be virtually harmless.

 

[Moonflame]

They are also found in beer and processed meats like salami.

 

[Vocalek]

I hate to split hairs, but i wanna get my facts straight. Was it 1%, or was it actually <1% ? Do you have a link?

Even if it was a full 1%, that is still an incredibly small amount. It would take 100 ml (3.3 of the 30-ml size bottles) to equal 1 ml of DEG. No harm was seen to animals below 1 ml per kg of body weight (that's ingestion). So a 154 pound man would need to drink 233.33 bottles of e-liquid to get to that level. I'm pretty sure the nicotine would kill him long before the DEG even made him sick.

Someone raised the question of whether the DEG would even make it into the vapor, given the temp at which the atomizers work. I did find a study on inhaling DEG: http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/38/2/143.pdf

"It is concluded that exposure of rats to DEGEE for 6 hr a day over a period of 28 days at a concentration of 1.1 mg/liter, which is in excess of the saturated vapor concentrations, causes no changes indicative of a systemic effect."

Could someone with a science (or math) background interpret for us how this quantity equates to the 1% DEG in a 1-ml cartridge?

 

[Territoo]

Even if it was a full 1%, that is still an incredibly small amount. It would take 100 ml (3.3 of the 30-ml size bottles) to equal 1 ml of DEG. No harm was seen to animals below 1 ml per kg of body weight (that's ingestion). So a 154 pound man would need to drink 233.33 bottles of e-liquid to get to that level. I'm pretty sure the nicotine would kill him long before the DEG even made him sick.

Someone raised the question of whether the DEG would even make it into the vapor, given the temp at which the atomizers work. I did find a study on inhaling DEG: http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/38/2/143.pdf

"It is concluded that exposure of rats to DEGEE for 6 hr a day over a period of 28 days at a concentration of 1.1 mg/liter, which is in excess of the saturated vapor concentrations, causes no changes indicative of a systemic effect."

Could someone with a science (or math) background interpret for us how this quantity equates to the 1% DEG in a 1-ml cartridge?

I have bookmarked this article, but it will take me a bit of time to get through it and analysie it.

Just to be clear, they found around six or seven different nitrosamines, which are carcinogens.
These nitrosamines come from the extraction of nicotine from tobacco.

They are also found in smoking cessation products in approximately the same amounts.
And of course they are also found in real cigarettes, but in much, much, much higher amounts.

The amount of these carcinogens they found, however, is so low as to be virtually harmless.

At the end of the article:

SOURCES:

-U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Electronic cigarettes
-American Cancer Society. Guide to Quitting Smoking
-American Lung Association. American Lung Association joins public health advocates to urge FDA to pull e-cigarettes from marketplace.
-World Health Organization. Marketers of electronic cigarettes should halt unproved therapy claims.
-U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Import refusal report.


...enough said.

Damn, you are so right! Those sources are worthless scientifically

Thank you for the link Territoo

The thing that really bothers me about these test results is that, upon looking at the table, for many substances they only confirmed the presence or lack thereof. I am convinced that they used instruments that were sensitive enough to detect the presence of anything at just about any level (trace or not); yet the amounts they found must have been so small that they could not quantify their actual amount with the equipment used, unlike the nicotine substances which were in large enough amounts that they could quantify.

Very interesting indeed...

Njoy enlisted an independent lab to analyse the results of the FDA's report. They made the same conclusion.

http://www.njoythefreedom.com/contactcommerce/images/press_releases/Response to the FDA Summary.pdf

 

[Micah]

Does this remind anyone else of Stevia? >.> How FDA Illegalized it for a while then made it legal only as a supplement...

(Stevia is a alternative sweetener herb, reduced blood sugar and has 0 calories, and is up to 350X sweeter than sugar)

Controversy with that was the fact Stevia would put aspartame out of business (Drink wise, since Stevia doesn't bake)