Vaping and kids

[Moonlitwish]

For those of you that have school age children, how do you keep them from getting into your vape stuff?
While we currently enjoy the freedom of having our vape bottles hanging out on the coffee table, the spare nic in the mini fridge and on the kitchen counter, I know (especially with social services doing a home study for adoption) that we won't be able to do this for long. I've been looking at fridge locks and thought about moving the mini fridge into the bedroom and keeping the bedroom locked but I want to know how others handle their stuff-especially when kids get to that age where they can open the baby locks.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[tj99959]

You need to have the key to get into my freezer.

 

[dbrandt01]

Well I don't have kids, so I may not be much help. I vape unflavored, and my VG and PG goes in a box in the top shelf of my closest. My Nicotine is in a mini fridge in my room, which nobody goes in but me. I do have a lock on my fridge but I don't use it at the moment, it's a real latch where a key lock can be put on. Good luck with the adoption!

 

[93gc40]

I treat vaping the same as I did SMOKING.. So the just like with Cigs and Lighters. Vape gear ois kept out of reach of kids

 

[AndriaD]

There *IS* such a thing as "parental supervision." Shocking, I know. But we never put locks on our cabinets or our fridge, or plugged our electric sockets, and somehow our son survived to adulthood. Guess it was all that "supervision." Seems to me that locks on cabinets and the fridge and those electric pluggers are for parents who can't be bothered to supervise the small fry.

Andria

 

[Princessdee]

I think the fridge lock is a good idea for what needs to be cold.

For your vape bottles take a look at something like this: (comes with 2 keys so you don't have to search each other down for a refill) http://www.amazon.com/STEELMASTER-F...office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1440606817&sr=1-3

 

[tj99959]

There *IS* such a thing as "parental supervision"

Parental supervision and what a CPS worker would find acceptable are two different things however.
(my wife worked for Utah division of child and family services)

 

[Toronnah]

There *IS* such a thing as "parental supervision." Shocking, I know. But we never put locks on our cabinets or our fridge, or plugged our electric sockets, and somehow our son survived to adulthood. Guess it was all that "supervision." Seems to me that locks on cabinets and the fridge and those electric pluggers are for parents who can't be bothered to supervise the small fry.

Andria

agreed. Establish the boundaries from the start. Maybe even lie. With mine I tell them it's tastes like crap. They only smell nice. But crappy tasting vapor is my punishment for starting to smoke. So far they believe it.

But they also know not to touch because they are dangerous due to the nicotine and batteries.

 

[mattiem]

There *IS* such a thing as "parental supervision." Shocking, I know. But we never put locks on our cabinets or our fridge, or plugged our electric sockets, and somehow our son survived to adulthood. Guess it was all that "supervision." Seems to me that locks on cabinets and the fridge and those electric pluggers are for parents who can't be bothered to supervise the small fry.

Andria

Supervise AND teach what can be touched and what cannot be touched. Start early, be consistent and the wee ones will learn. In my opinion that is better than just trying to hide everything from them.

 

[Moonlitwish]

There *IS* such a thing as "parental supervision." Shocking, I know. But we never put locks on our cabinets or our fridge, or plugged our electric sockets, and somehow our son survived to adulthood. Guess it was all that "supervision." Seems to me that locks on cabinets and the fridge and those electric pluggers are for parents who can't be bothered to supervise the small fry.

Andria

While I totally 200% agree with you, I'm also looking for long term solutions for teens who might be home alone at some point. My family didn't baby proof ANYTHING when I was growing up. I learned on my own that my parents weren't kidding when they said that something could hurt me because I was allowed to learn through trial and error.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[Moonlitwish]

Parental supervision and what a CPS worker would find acceptable are two different things however.
(my wife worked for Utah division of child and family services)

Agreed. I really don't want to just lock everything up because it's hard to teach them why when they never understand what it is I'm locking up. Plus the things kids don't understand or are not exposed to are the things that are going to make them the most curious.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[Moonlitwish]

I treat vaping the same as I did SMOKING.. So the just like with Cigs and Lighters. Vape gear ois kept out of reach of kids

Haha when I was growing up, I was responsible for retrieving cigs, fresh lighters and alcohol for my parents. This is probably why I don't know how far to take the locking up/hiding thing. Nothing was ever locked up or out of reach when I was a kid.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[bluecat]

I keep all my stuff on top of the fridge in the back. I am the only one in the family that can reach it.

I also have a strict rule that no one touches daddy's stuff. If they do they lose their iphone. Ever see a middle school or high school girl that looses their iphone. It ain't pretty. I also take keys from the oldest car. Remove cables from computers and hid ipads and ipods.

I also try to limit my vape stuff. I do not hoard. I never leave anything out on the tables or cabinets. I have some 18mg and 9 mg nic base in the freezer but it is out of the way of everything on its own shelf and duct taped closed.

I also grew up where my grandfather would keep the insecticide in a mason jar next to grandma's homemade jam. We were expected not to drink the stuff labeled poison with a picture of the skull and crossbones on it. Go figure.

 

[Moonlitwish]

I forgot to mention we are adopting from foster care so most likely the kids will be halfway to adulthood when we get them. That's why the toddler locks are pointless. Social services requires that all cleaning supplies be locked. If they mean really locked and not toddler locked I'm going to be really annoyed because I believe a 10 year old who spills kool-aid on the counter should be responsible for cleaning the sticky crap off the counter. If they go that far with cleaning supplies, I'm sure they will have a problem with concentrated nic in my freezer.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[Moonlitwish]

I also have a strict rule that no one touches daddy's stuff.

I also grew up where my grandfather would keep the insecticide in a mason jar next to grandma's homemade jam. We were expected not to drink the stuff labeled poison with a picture of the skull and crossbones on it. Go figure.

Point 1. Yes that will be a big rule. Also no kids in my bedroom-ever.

Point 2. Exactly! But since the kids are coming out of foster care, I have no idea how well they will listen. My brother was one of those who just didn't. He ended up in jail-go figure.

Basically I'm struggling with teaching responsibility & respect and preventing bad teenage behavior. I don't know where to strike the balance.
I don't want to be relegated to mixing and refilling my juice in the bedroom 1. I don't want to risk a spill over hardwoods 2. The bathroom is too small to go there 3. How am I supposed to supervise them if I'm in my bedroom?!


*~*moonlitwish*~*

 

[tj99959]

I forgot to mention we are adopting from foster care so most likely the kids will be halfway to adulthood when we get them. That's why the toddler locks are pointless. Social services requires that all cleaning supplies be locked. If they mean really locked and not toddler locked I'm going to be really annoyed because I believe a 10 year old who spills kool-aid on the counter should be responsible for cleaning the sticky crap off the counter. If they go that far with cleaning supplies, I'm sure they will have a problem with concentrated nic in my freezer.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

Congratulations on your desire to adopt. You're a hero in my book!
DCFS should give you a check list so that you can make sure you're in compliance. Also your case worker is your best friend, so don't hesitate to ask questions.
I think my first Q would be 'what's is their view on vaping', because policies can be very different from one state to another.
If I had to choose between vaping and adopting a child, vaping would loose every time!

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But since the kids are coming out of foster care, I have no idea how well they will listen.

They probably won't
Many of the kids I saw in the child care system were badly damaged (that's why they are in the system), and it can take a lot of time & patients for them to be able to develop a normal life. It may not be an easy task that you're taking on, but it's well worth it.

 

[AndriaD]

While I totally 200% agree with you, I'm also looking for long term solutions for teens who might be home alone at some point. My family didn't baby proof ANYTHING when I was growing up. I learned on my own that my parents weren't kidding when they said that something could hurt me because I was allowed to learn through trial and error.


*~*moonlitwish*~*

By the time they're teens, either they've learned, or they haven't, and locking things up is a bit pointless -- they'll get it from their friends if they really want it. Or figure out how to jimmy the lock. Teenagers are nearly adults, and though their judgment may be lacking, their abilities really aren't.

Andria

PS: what tj said is very true, though -- the social svcs folks are the nannies, and if you depend on their approval... You may have to pretend to be as insane as they are, but that doesn't mean you really have to be that insane.

 

[bluecat]

Point 1. Yes that will be a big rule. Also no kids in my bedroom-ever.

Point 2. Exactly! But since the kids are coming out of foster care, I have no idea how well they will listen. My brother was one of those who just didn't. He ended up in jail-go figure.

Basically I'm struggling with teaching responsibility & respect and preventing bad teenage behavior. I don't know where to strike the balance.
I don't want to be relegated to mixing and refilling my juice in the bedroom 1. I don't want to risk a spill over hardwoods 2. The bathroom is too small to go there 3. How am I supposed to supervise them if I'm in my bedroom?!


*~*moonlitwish*~*

Ahh good luck. You got a tough one since the child has not been brought up with you from minute 1. Yeah some foster kids are starving for attention and acceptance.. others are past that an are on their own. Not sure if I got the answers for that one.

 

[beckdg]

My kids know better.

Child welfare services and social services approved.

We were investigated when I beat my son's ... for trying to choke the life out if his sister and break her back.

The reason we moved from the old neighborhood in the first place. Bad influences...

Tapatyped

 

[crxess]

School aged children should have already been Home educated enough to know right from wrong and what they are allowed to touch or never tough.

I Safe store all my Nic/Flavoring/PG-VG of large quantities. I have 3 grandchildren in the home and all are very well versed in what Vaping is and why I, my Wife and my youngest daughter Vape.

There is often smaller bottles of mixed e-liquid around for refilling.

They are happy there is no longer smoking on the main floor of the home where they normally reside.(Their smoking parents live below)
Though they have an occasional question, usually smell related, they never attempt to touch anything Vape related.

Each family must make their own choices.
Hopefully they will be wise choices.
Education is important.