Vaping causing coughing

[vapemate93]

Hi, my mother has tried vaping for a couple weeks now with two different mods but she cant stop coughing and she still goes to the cigs because of it. Shes a long term pack a day smoker and like me she only mtl vapes.

The mod shes currently using is a innokin pen style mod and me being skeptical about pen style mods from my own experiences i was surprised at how good it is and the vape is almost as good as my pico with a mtl tank on it but much less expensive so i know the device its self is fine and it's only about 12 wats of power so its not excatly over powered for her but it replicates a cig perfectly.

Shes tried all sorts of e liquid from tobbaco flavor from the local vape shop to my own nic shot flavour but nothing seems to work. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this and any advice?

 

[Violetti Usva]

When you quit a heavy habit you'll cough for a while getting all the crap out of your lungs...well, a lot of it - you'll never get it all out but after a few months you'll notice improvements. Unfortunately these few months are difficult and many do relapse, particularly from heavy habits - but at least the nicotine side is covered better by vaping than going cold turkey on cigs

 

[KurtVD]

When you quit a heavy habit you'll cough for a while getting all the crap out of your lungs...well, a lot of it - you'll never get it all out but after a few months you'll notice improvements. Unfortunately these few months are difficult and many do relapse, particularly from heavy habits - but at least the nicotine side is covered better by vaping than going cold turkey on cigs

That is actually a possible explanation, especially if she still smokes the occasional cigarette. If you smoke regularly, the coughing stops because the physiological reaction which makes your lungs reject all the crap in the cigarette is ‘paralyzed’ by the smoke. That’s why a smoker only coughs in the morning, until he has had his first cigarette.

 

[puffon]

She could try not bringing the vapor into her lungs.
Much of the nicotine is absorbed in the mouth and nose.

 

[Violetti Usva]

I still find it difficult to breathe in the morning but it's so much better than it used to be - I've been vaping for about a year and a half now. I had a relapse to smoking that lasted about a week - not tobacco, somehow I'd convinced myself that smoking due to stress was fine so long as its not tobacco - and in that week I feel like I'd set myself back a good six months in terms of lung function. But compared to the weeks leading up to deciding to vape its so much easier - these days I'm awake for a good few hours before I think about offing myself, rather than the moment I crawl out of bed ahah!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hi, my mother has tried vaping for a couple weeks now with two different mods but she cant stop coughing and she still goes to the cigs because of it. Shes a long term pack a day smoker and like me she only mtl vapes.

The mod shes currently using is a innokin pen style mod and me being skeptical about pen style mods from my own experiences i was surprised at how good it is and the vape is almost as good as my pico with a mtl tank on it but much less expensive so i know the device its self is fine and it's only about 12 wats of power so its not excatly over powered for her but it replicates a cig perfectly.

Shes tried all sorts of e liquid from tobbaco flavor from the local vape shop to my own nic shot flavour but nothing seems to work. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this and any advice?

She should also be drinking more of her favorite beverage. The will help vaping go smoother and also help get the bad stuff out of her(toxins and tar)

 

[ScottP]

Ask here where she feels the couch is coming from. As in is it triggered by a "tickle" in her throat, or is that she feels like there is something in her lungs causing it.

IF the issue is she feels something in her lungs and her couch is productive then I don't think much can be done. It will likely be caused by all the gunk built up from years of smoking breaking free and cleaning up in her lungs. That should go away once her lungs are cleaned out.

IF the issue is a "tickle" in her throat when she vapes, try switching to nic salts. My wife had this issue and this is what worked for her. The salts are smoother and less irritating. You could also try lowering nic level and playing with PG/VG ratios. She could be having a reaction to one of those.

 

[KurtVD]

You could also try lowering nic level and playing with PG/VG ratios. She could be having a reaction to one of those.

True, a very important point, that we tend to forget: when I started vaping, I had a pretty strong reaction to it, in my case it was symptoms like hay fever, whenever I took a draw, my nose started running. But I read somewhere that most people get used to it, so I kept going, and it took more than a month of regular vaping until it was over. Maybe she “just” needs to be patient...

 

[KurtVD]

not tobacco, somehow I'd convinced myself that smoking due to stress was fine so long as its not tobacco

I do enjoy having a non-tobacco smoke (where it’s legal, of course ), even quite regularly, and I have no intention of quitting that too. Vaping is what helps me keeping it in check, so I don’t smoke all day.
What I hate about tobacco, is that it provides nothing at all, eg you don’t get any sort of high or other good feeling (not after the first few weeks or months anyway), it’s really just a costly, unhealthy smelly addiction.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I was gonna recommend dropping the nic content (if it's 12mg/ml or higher) or switching to nic salts. @ScottP beat me to the latter.

Edit: It would also be a good idea for her to see a doctor, just in case something else is going on that's unrelated to, but triggered by vaping.

 

[zoiDman]

Hi, my mother has tried vaping for a couple weeks now with two different mods but she cant stop coughing and she still goes to the cigs because of it. Shes a long term pack a day smoker and like me she only mtl vapes.

The mod shes currently using is a innokin pen style mod and me being skeptical about pen style mods from my own experiences i was surprised at how good it is and the vape is almost as good as my pico with a mtl tank on it but much less expensive so i know the device its self is fine and it's only about 12 wats of power so its not excatly over powered for her but it replicates a cig perfectly.

Shes tried all sorts of e liquid from tobbaco flavor from the local vape shop to my own nic shot flavour but nothing seems to work. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this and any advice?

It sounds like your Mom might be sensitive to PG.

Have you tried getting Her some High VG or even 100% VG e-Liquids?

 

[vapdivrr]

When I switched to vaping, I couldn't believe it made me cough when a cig did not. What helped me was to inhale the vape in my mouth and hold it there for 2 to 3 seconds and then inhale to lungs...I did this and it helped tremendously. I still coughed a tiny bit , but only like every 4 vapes and after a week, no more cough and was then able to vape normally

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[JCinFLA]

She could try not bringing the vapor into her lungs.
Much of the nicotine is absorbed in the mouth and nose.

Yep! That method definitely works just fine!
In fact, nic in vapor is more readily absorbed by the cells of the cheek linings, sinuses, and nasal passages...than it is in the lungs. Nic in ciggy smoke is the opposite though.

I don't inhale vapor into my lungs at all...and there are quite a few of us who vape like that. I definitely did inhale though, for 42+ years while smoking.

I get my nic fix just fine bringing vapor into my mouth and just slightly down the back of my throat...then exhale through my nose and/or mouth. I've always vaped like that and didn't cough at all even when first starting to vape.

 

[aikanae1]

Same thing with me. I really struggled vaping part time or full time due to coughing. First I learned to hold it in my mouth and out my nose. That works but I had a hard time getting used to it esp. In public. Then I found relief with 100% vg. That did it. Even the non flavored was a huge relief. I went to 100% vg + wta next and SCORE! I could vape successfully and painlessly.

I did expand into flavors, at the time there were about 20 venders offerring pg free ejuices. I discovered I was sensitive to some flavors like cinnamon which nearly put me into the er with burns in my mouth. Extreme reaction. Some but not all strawberries, menthols give me immediate hay fever. We've done blind tests and I react. Vaping uncovered multiple allergies. It's frustrating.

I have no idea if that's whats going on for your mom but you might want to consider getting unflavored vg to see if that helps. She'll know immediately if it is.

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[ppeeble]

Sometimes it just happens. I know a few smokers who cannot tolerate vaping - they cough 'til they're red in the face..
When i first switched i coughed for a couple of days before my body accepted the change. Since then i've had no problems.

 

[Toronnah]

Lots of good thinking here, but pretty much all of it incorrect.

Tgis is Occupational/Industrial Hygiene 101.

The cigarette smoke particle is a smoke or fume. It is microscopic in size and travels all the way to the aveolae of your lungs.

Vape output is a mist where the particles are hundreds of times larger. As such they settle higher up in the bronchial area of the lungs (think bronchitis vs pneumonia).

The larger particle settling higher up is causing a cough reflex.

Easiest way to overcome this is take much smaller hits until your lungs become accustomed to the foreign matter.

 

[JCinFLA]

Easiest way to overcome this is take much smaller hits until your lungs become accustomed to the foreign matter.

Or...just don't bring the "foreign matter" down into your lungs. You can still have a satisfying vape and get a nic fix.

ETA: I agree with others though, that sometimes the coughing is associated with the PG/VG ratio. Ran into that with someone I make eliquid for. She didn't change anything about how she inhales or how much, but I changed her ratio...and the coughing stopped. People DO sometimes have sensitivities to various things that others don't. She was one of them.

 

[Toronnah]

Or...just don't bring the "foreign matter" down into your lungs. You can still have a satisfying vape and get a nic fix.

ETA: I agree with others though, that sometimes the coughing is associated with the PG/VG ratio. Ran into that with someone I make eliquid for. She didn't change anything about how she inhales or how much, but I changed her ratio...and the coughing stopped. People DO sometimes have sensitivities to various things that others don't. She was one of them.

Going to disagree with your view on inhaling.

If vaping is used as a smoking cessation product as it replicates the act of smoking without the smoke.

If one doesnt inhale, they are not replicating the act of smoking and will fail, thereby picking up the cigarettes.

 

[Jebbn]

Hi,
a friend and her husband(who is also a friend) started vaping together, the wife worked on her vaping technique until she didnt cough, she spent time altering her drag/draw and inhale until she didnt cough and can now vape like an expert(what ever the means), her husband hasnt made the same effort to refine his technique and even after a month or so still coughs dramatically nearly everytime he takes a hit of her vape.
Even for myself just working on technique helped me go from a red faced, spluttering mess at every puff to being able to sit for hours ruminating and staring out into the middle distance chain vaping with out even really being aware Im vaping.

Maybe practice smaller gentler drags and gentler inhales. Drink plenty of water.

 

[ScottP]

Lots of good thinking here, but pretty much all of it incorrect.

Well the Nic Salts suggestion I made absolutely worked for my wife. Many of the other suggestions have worked for the people making the suggestions. So how can you say they are wrong when what they said DID work for someone? Now I am not saying that what you said has no merit. It may indeed be true for some. However it is NOT true for everyone.

Going to disagree with your view on inhaling.

If vaping is used as a smoking cessation product as it replicates the act of smoking without the smoke.

If one doesnt inhale, they are not replicating the act of smoking and will fail, thereby picking up the cigarettes.

When one speaks in broad absolutes, they are generally the one who is wrong. This forum has LOTS of people that did in fact quit smoking without bringing the vapor into their lungs.