I know that I probably should see a therapist but I've never had the money and insurance premiums are too high. I've been struggling with anxiety for about 3 years now. Im always anxious but I've learned to cope with it. The panic attacks are the hard part. I was just wondering if vaping can help. If so I've heard that I shouldn't get nicotine because it makes the anxiety worse (even at low mg) and I've hard the nicotine helps. What is your take on it?
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It may worsen or not improve your anxiety. It's a poor choice to treat anxiety and panic attacks when there are better treatments available. I know access to affordable health care can be difficult but exploring any and all options in your community is really the right way to go about it. Perhaps your can find an outpatient clinic that will treat you based on a sliding scale of your income. Good luck!
If you don't have money why would you get into a habit that is (1) addictive and (2) costs money.
Those kind of issues need to be resolved at the root cause. Not patched over with an expensive long term addiction.
Those kind of issues need to be resolved at the root cause. Not patched over with an expensive long term addiction.
Vaping isn't known to improve anxiety generally. You'd probably get a similar (and cheaper) result inhaling and exhaling into a paper bag to treat any hyperventilation during anxiety attacks.
If you can't afford a therapist you can do it yourself: The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook
It's easier with a therapist to coach you, but it's not necessary if you apply yourself.
I wouldn't add a nic habit to anxiety whatever you do. If you are not a nicotine/cigarette user, nicotine is a stimulant (possibly more relaxing at lower doses... maybe) so overall, it's not going to do much for anxiety.
Hope you are able to get some treatment for it, but I really don't think vaping nicotine or vaping generally is a great solution.
Anna
If you can't afford a therapist you can do it yourself: The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook
It's easier with a therapist to coach you, but it's not necessary if you apply yourself.
I wouldn't add a nic habit to anxiety whatever you do. If you are not a nicotine/cigarette user, nicotine is a stimulant (possibly more relaxing at lower doses... maybe) so overall, it's not going to do much for anxiety.
Hope you are able to get some treatment for it, but I really don't think vaping nicotine or vaping generally is a great solution.
Anna
It's like everything else you don't know until you try it. I might try a bit of nic and see. I would also look into some herbal medicine supplements. I have tried to go as natural as possible and rarely use any commercial meds anymore. From what I have read a lot of psyche patients smoke to self medicate, but who knows.
I believe vaping would be less effective in relieving anxiety or stress than using a sqeeze ball or some Silly Putty.
If smoking helped you relieve stress, then vaping might replicate that in a less harmful way (no smoke or combustion involved). However, anxiety attacks are a different matter altogether and should be treated by a physician.
Many communities offer clinics that accept a sliding fee scale (calculated by your income) to pay for services.
If smoking helped you relieve stress, then vaping might replicate that in a less harmful way (no smoke or combustion involved). However, anxiety attacks are a different matter altogether and should be treated by a physician.
Many communities offer clinics that accept a sliding fee scale (calculated by your income) to pay for services.
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Hi and welcome. If you're a smoker trying to get off the coffin nails, by all means try vaping. If you're not addicted to nicotine already, don't start. Take it from me, it's no fun.
Their are many community programs that assist with anxiety treatment, and medicine costs.
The national number is 1-877-726-4727. A human will answer and ask name & town. They will provide info.
Have paper and pencil when you call. They will tell you where to go to meet a mental health specialist and at what time. If you feel anxious about going to the appointment, you can take a friend if you wish.
Good luck!
The national number is 1-877-726-4727. A human will answer and ask name & town. They will provide info.
Have paper and pencil when you call. They will tell you where to go to meet a mental health specialist and at what time. If you feel anxious about going to the appointment, you can take a friend if you wish.
Good luck!
Dude! OBAMACARE! if you don’t have money they subsidize it. Up to 100% (unless you live in a red state of course. I forget about that)
Anyway, assuming insurance is in fact unobtainable, nicotine is in fact a major anti anxiety, and an especially fast acting one. The problem is it’s really really addictive. ESPECIALLY if you have anxiety issues. There’s got to be a way you could see someone. A local social worker will have the lowdown on how to go about finding such things in your area. Check out the Obamacare site though if you haven’t. Obamacare was supposed to literally be for people in exactly your position. The GOP has damaged it as much as they can but it’s still alive.
While it is certainly true that you "won't know until you try it" that the cost of getting set up would be similar to a few sessions with a therapist on a sliding fee scale (if you are that destitute and don't have insurance) so the "you won't know until you try" does carry a price tag, and while I love vaping personally, I am hesitant to recommend nic/no nic in this delivery system when time and effort is probably better spent elsewhere.
If someone is truly having panic attacks and possibly somewhat agoraphobic, I don't see the recommendation of vaping as the best first choice. It's possible it might work for a while, and then anxiety sx reoccur if the person hasn't developed knowledge/skills to protect her from anxiety in the future, which generally will reoccur, often after whatever placebo effect happens/does not happen with vaping.
I don't understand having the funds to vape while not the funds to see a professional about the matter as a first choice. This strikes me more as a grasping at straws thing, and it is definitely not the first (tested and researched) choice to use for anxiety issues. I know of NO studies that were properly conducted that apply the "solution" of vaping to anxiety.
Anna
If someone is truly having panic attacks and possibly somewhat agoraphobic, I don't see the recommendation of vaping as the best first choice. It's possible it might work for a while, and then anxiety sx reoccur if the person hasn't developed knowledge/skills to protect her from anxiety in the future, which generally will reoccur, often after whatever placebo effect happens/does not happen with vaping.
I don't understand having the funds to vape while not the funds to see a professional about the matter as a first choice. This strikes me more as a grasping at straws thing, and it is definitely not the first (tested and researched) choice to use for anxiety issues. I know of NO studies that were properly conducted that apply the "solution" of vaping to anxiety.
Anna
Welcome and glad you joined.
We are all different to some degree. The only sure way to answer question, is you yourself.
Could read:
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/07-08/symptoms.aspx
If you aren't a smoker, then I would advise against sucking anything into your lungs, other than air. Lots of good advice above, especially those suggesting mental health options.
If you don't smoke, don't vape, it isn't "cheap" by any means. Vaping while healthier than smoking is not better than breathing just air. I'll say to you as my kids, don't pick up smoking and don't start vaping either. I know, sounds hypocritical but if I had never smoked, I wouldn't be vaping now, nicotine or not.
If you can't afford a therapist, and can't find any local help with it, there are options. First religious or not, many churches have counselors and won't charge a penny. Many will respect your wishes on religion (whatever it may be) and still offer to help you. If that isn't your thing (for many it isn't and that's okay) you can go to AA meetings, I suggest calling to find one and speak about it before just showing up.
There are different kinds of AA and even NA groups depending on where you live. There are also other types of support groups that meet again, depending on your area. Your local health clinic, state website, or google support groups for your area, are some great ways to find something.
Then there's always jogging, cycling, joining a gym (cheaper than vaping), yoga, Tai Chi and other forms of exercise. Getting the body right, helps get the mind right and vice versa. Best of luck in whatever you choose to do.
If you can't afford a therapist, and can't find any local help with it, there are options. First religious or not, many churches have counselors and won't charge a penny. Many will respect your wishes on religion (whatever it may be) and still offer to help you. If that isn't your thing (for many it isn't and that's okay) you can go to AA meetings, I suggest calling to find one and speak about it before just showing up.
There are different kinds of AA and even NA groups depending on where you live. There are also other types of support groups that meet again, depending on your area. Your local health clinic, state website, or google support groups for your area, are some great ways to find something.
Then there's always jogging, cycling, joining a gym (cheaper than vaping), yoga, Tai Chi and other forms of exercise. Getting the body right, helps get the mind right and vice versa. Best of luck in whatever you choose to do.
The group of people that are sometimes helped to calm down through the use of nicotine are ADHD...
That is a completely different animal than someone who has anxiety and panic attacks.
ADHD people react in opposite manner to medication. Things that make the rest of us have increased heart rate and become energetic acts like a downer in an ADHD patient and calms them down.
Someone who gets anxiety and panic attacks will likely become even more anxious and panicky with something like nicotine. ..
Your best bet is to see a doctor... spend your money on that and get real help.
I have always been a bit of a rebel. I would not ask others mainly because they have more than likely no more knowledge than you on a subject. It's great to say see a doctor but I know there are many that can't for one reason or another. I have been there. You have to decide what you want and research all info then take your chances. A forum will not help mainly because of liability. My son is adhd and I went through years of hell raising him as a single parent. I learned to try just about anything except meds.
nicotine is not "in fact a major anti anxiety"
@Maropolo285 I too, deal with anxiety and some other mental health problems without insurance. PM me if you want to discuss what I do to help/afford it.
More accurately kids off their Meds, but it’s still a classic implied does-not-follow logical fallacy.
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