Vaping Forbidden on Patio of Golf Course

[Housedag]

Hi everyone! I am a member of a private golf course in Canada. I was recently told that I am no longer allowed to vape on our outdoor patio near our bistro.

This is the only area outdoors that both men and women meet up to have a drink after golf. Adjacent to this patio ( separated by a hedge) is a men's area that allows both cigarette and cigar smoking.

Late last summer, the club introduced a no smoking policy on the bistro patio, and I quit smoking (yeah!!!), and began vaping. Now I am being told I can't do that either.

Apparently, the club executive plans on eventually implementing a club wide no smoking policy and this is the "first step." According to the club president, e-cigarettes are not considered safe, and my only recourse is to write a letter to the board at which time it will be reconsidered.

This is where I need your help. I need to present my case to the board. I looking for facts relating to 2nd hand vape dangers, if any, and any other relevant facts.

Thank u for your time & sorry about the long winded post. Cheers!!

 

[AmandaD]

Here's everything you need LOL:

The Ultimate List of E-Cig Studies: Are E-Cigs Actually Safe? *Updated 2/16/14 » onVaping

 

[wv2win]

There are no dangers from 2nd hand vapor. See the most recent study on vaping out of Drexel University. You can find it on the CASAA web site. Click on the banner below this post.

 

[dailywalker]

Sounds like they want to get rid of everyone. Sounds like a private club I wouldn't want to be part of.

 

[AmandaD]

Several places, including LA County, have banned vaping wherever smoking is banned. It's not unusual here!

 

[SpyderBite]

Vote with your membership fees. During the exit interview make it clear why you're quitting. This is when you'll have their attention in a face to face meeting and not just letter to be filed away.

 

[Housedag]

Thanks AmandaD & vv2win for your responses. I have printed off the relevant info & will use it to write my letter to the board.

I have seriously considered leaving the club. I just have so much money and time invested in the place, I don't want to make a hasty decision.

The club executive are not the morality police. I am not harming anyone.

I'll see how (if) they respond to my letter & proceed from there.

 

[fcreeves]

Vote with your membership fees. During the exit interview make it clear why you're quitting. This is when you'll have their attention in a face to face meeting and not just letter to be filed away.

Agreed. Money Talks.

 

[Vaslovik]

I'd tell them to shove their snooty little club where the sun don't shine and walk out for the last time.

 

[RosaJ]

My suggestion is that you demand your membership fees refunded and if they're not willing to comply, then tell them they'll hear from your lawyer. It sounds to me that it's a breach of contract on their part.

 

[Steam Turbine]

Here are 3 review article from Pub Med (a major medical journal) about vaping.

If you search for the keywords: "secondhand smoke", "secondhand vapor", "passive vaping", "passive smoking" you should find the info that you need in there.

Here are the reviews:

www.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4018182/
"The Grana paper"


The Saitta paper
The Palazzolo paper

Have fun.

Keep on vaping.

 

[Bernard Marx]

Would somebody please turn the clock back to before 1990? I only have a few years left―why must I have to spend them at the mercy of the vigilantes?

 

[herb]

Personally, i think it has 'zero' to do with safety , it has to do with what looks like smoke when your puffing on an e cig , people just automatically think of smoking and that's not "in" these days , ignorance ? Absolutely but it just doesn't look proper especially at an exclusive club.

I am the furthest thing from being politically correct and if it was me i would say 'shove it ' as a previous poster already mentioned.

 

[GPC2012]

We can only hope that someday we are accepted

 

[wv2win]

Here are 3 review article from Pub Med (a major medical journal) about vaping.

If you search for the keywords: "secondhand smoke", "secondhand vapor", "passive vaping", "passive smoking" you should find the info that you need in there.

Here are the reviews:

www.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4018182/
"The Grana paper" .....................

Have fun.

Keep on vaping.

Just amazing. A new ECF member asks for help in providing positive support for vaping and what does he get? He gets another ECF member pushing the slanted BS from the biggest ANTZ in America, Stanton Glantz:

Grana Paper:

"E-Cigarettes

A Scientific Review
Rachel Grana, PhD, MPH, Neal Benowitz, MD, and Stanton A. Glantz, PhD"

Any ECF member who pushes Glantz at an unsuspecting new member, as a source of legitimate information on vaping, is not a friend of the vaping community.

 

[secretagnt]

WOWSER that escalated quickly

 

[bacc.vap]

It's hard to imagine a golf club that would ban smoking totally, especially if it's extended to out on the course. Do you see a lot of golfers smoking on the course?
I thought that's what golfers did, drink, smoke, and play golf. Maybe you could search out other smokers and inform them that this type of thing was mentioned as being a first step toward complete abolition of smoking at the club. I'm sure there are others who would like to know that.

 

[Housedag]

I am the only female public vaper at the club. I have introduced several club members to vaping, but they either stealth vape or only do it at home.

I have let the men know what is happening, but they have their area to smoke, and don't think that the executive will implement a full no smoking ban.

 

[stevegmu]

I don't understand. There's a men's and women's section of the club? If smoking is prohibited, then vaping will be, because the smokers will complain about the vapers saying it isn't fair that vaping is allowed...

 

[Bobbilly]

I don't understand. There's a men's and women's section of the club? If smoking is prohibited, then vaping will be, because the smokers will complain about the vapers saying it isn't fair that vaping is allowed...

Vaping isn't smoking though but don't let that fact stop them