Vaping is way more expensive to me

[a68rebel]

Gotta quit vaping. I vape 10ml a day costs $5.00 per day. Cigarettes only cost $5 every 2 days....but I hate smoke so I like chew.....a $2.00 can lasts me a week ($2 a week).
So my choice is $25-$30 a week for vaping (not to mention the $100 start-up cost) or $2-$4 a week for chewing.
In this economy, I gotta go with snus or chew which is literally 5 to 10 times cheaper than vaping.
I do enjoy vaping though, don't get me wrong...but it's still very expensive compared to snus or chew.
Any comments or thoughts are welcome......I just wanted to think out-loud for a moment.

 

[tybin]

well if you start to make you're own it would become significantly cheaper

 

[Zen~]

DIY your juice... 10ML of my DIY costs me about a buck to make, and I prefer it to the commercial stuff.

My DIY is made from 100mg Unflavored cut down to 16mg with PG amd VG, Loranns Spearmint, Peppermint, Cherry and menthol crystals... total of about 12% flavor... mostly PG... PG is 22 bucks a GALLON.

I make a months worth at a time for about 28.00.

 

[vape-addict]

Dude!! how do u vape 10ml a day! I'm a chain vaper and I only do about 5ml a day.maybe u should up nic level..

 

[JWolf]

Making your own is the best, you can't get suppliers to tweak your recipe too much (only one I know of that does is Clouds of Vapor, and they aren't too expensive or anything, but diy is cheaper, and you can really zero in on the flavor that you want. Too little chocolate, add a drop, too much, dilute it a little bit. As long as you know what you like you can DIY.

 

[NICnurse]

Ditto Tybin. Making your own juice is way more economical. I have been DIY my own juice for 6 weeks now, and it has saved me TONS of $$$. Here is a breakdown of what I spend to make my own:

4oz of Lorann natural strawberry = $14 from the Lorann website
DIY Nicjuice, 30mL, 48mg = $12 from DIY supplier
100% PG liquid, 240mL = $4.50 from DIY supplier
Sweetener, 1 lg bottle from DIY supplier, $4

I use 30mL per week, I dilute my 48mg nicjuice down to 15mg.

You would have to bump up these estimated prices a little bit since you would use 35mL per week, but here is the appx weekly cost for me using 30mL:

$3 per week in nicjuice, 23 cents per week in 100%PG, $1.42 per week in Lorann flavoring, 10 cents per week sweetener for a grand total of $4.75 per week.

I would guess, approximately, your weekly cost would be around $5.50 per week. You could spend in 1 week what you spend per day now.

I had no problems making my own juice. Of course, I keep it simple, use only 1 flavor, and don't get too technical about it.

I hope this helps you out!! If you decide to try and DIY your own juices, definitely look at the DIY supplier in the forum supplier tab. They are great to work with, and you can buy little bottles of flavoring ($1.50 each) so you can try out a few flavors and find one you like. I am happy to help you in any way I can as well!

 

[NICnurse]

DIY your juice... 10ML of my DIY costs me about a buck to make, and I prefer it to the commercial stuff.

My DIY is made from 100mg Unflavored cut down to 16mg with PG amd VG, Loranns Spearmint, Peppermint, Cherry and menthol crystals... total of about 12% flavor... mostly PG... PG is 22 bucks a GALLON.

I make a months worth at a time for about 28.00.

Where do you get your PG by the gallon?? I would love to buy it in bulk like you do!

 

[Zen~]

Dude!! how do u vape 10ml a day! I'm a chain vaper and I only do about 5ml a day.maybe u should up nic level..

LOL, I chain vape 10-15ml per day... and if I upped my level I STILL vape that much, which is why I lowered it to 14-16mg..

 

[Zen~]

Where do you get your PG by the gallon?? I would love to buy it in bulk like you do!

Tractor Supply... not all of their stores carry it... and it looks like they raised to the price to 24.99

Ideal Animal Health Propylene Glycol, U.S.P., 1 gal. - 2209731 | Tractor Supply Company

Also, for menthol some of the e-cig bandits are charging 3-4 bucks for a half an ounce... it can be had for 13.50 for a half pound!

http://www.amazon.com/Frontier-Natural-Brands-Menthol-Crystals/dp/B000UY874W

 

[NICnurse]

Tractor Supply... not all of their stores carry it... and it looks like they raised to the price to 24.99

Ideal Animal Health Propylene Glycol, U.S.P., 1 gal. - 2209731 | Tractor Supply Company

Also, for menthol some of the e-cig bandits are charging 3-4 bucks for a half an ounce... it can be had for 13.50 for a half pound!

Amazon.com: Menthol Crystals, 1/2 lb. - Bulk: Health & Personal Care

Awesome!!!! Thank you for the info! I live in the heart of the midwest, and we have a Tractor Supply on nearly every corner. Surely there will be one within a 5 mile radius of me that carries PG. Add PG hunting to my to-do list tomorrow!

When I find a store here in Kansas City that carries it, I will be sure to post that info for any other DIY'ers here in the KC area. Hopefully save someone from hunting it down.

 

[Shan B]

Dude!! how do u vape 10ml a day! I'm a chain vaper and I only do about 5ml a day.maybe u should up nic level..

I couldn't agree more!! 10mL I would say either you're wasting juice or you don't know what ur doing... something doesn't sound right.

I am un-employed, with a huge sleeping disorder. I vape about 18-20 non-stop hours a day, 7 days a week, and I have NEVER vaped more than 6mL a day, and that's counting days I don't sleep. Even the heaviest vaper says MAX 5mL... I just don't see 10mL. I vape 24mg, dripping contstantly, and I have a hard time believing anyone who says they can kill more than 10mL a day... you gotta be drinkin the stuff.

DEF needs an up on the nic or needs to find a different routine to vaping.

When I went from 2mL a day to 5mL a day DIY was my best choice. I spend roughly 30.00 a month IF that.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Dude!! how do u vape 10ml a day! I'm a chain vaper and I only do about 5ml a day.maybe u should up nic level..

Like the addict says, I can't imagine how you can go through 10ml a day. The fingers on my left hand are permanently bent to hold a mod now. I vape constantly if I'm awake and I go through 4 or 5ml a day.
When I was smoking I was paying $8.50 a pack for smokes. That came to $255.00 a month. I spend less than $50.00 a month on everything I need to vape and I've bought a M401 kit, a few 901 kits, 4 Riva kits, a Chuck, a crappy Wetbox, a 5V GLV, and a Buzz over the last 9 or 10 months.
I do mix my own juice though. Been doing that almost from the start.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I have to agree with all the others who posted that 10ml/day is extreme. I'm also a chain vaper and there's no way that I go through 10ml/day. On a really bad day, I might go through 6ml, but I've never even come close to 10! I have to wonder if juice is being wasted somehow either by leaking or switching out carts and just dumping the juice.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Completely off-topic: WomanOfHeart, I just noticed your signature. When did Madvapes ever sell a Riva? I've been buying stuff from them regularly since last March and I've never seen one on their site. Just curious.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Mist, the first kit that I bought was from them and the batts have the gold bands. I was told these were Riva's, even though MadVapes sells them as eGo's. The pink batt (a 900mah) has the silver band and is a Genuine Joye eGo. Macht's nichts to me whether the black one is an eGo or a Riva because I love them both!

 

[mistinthewoods]

I see. I agree that it doesn't matter what they call stuff. As long as it works.

 

[kushka]

Ditto Tybin. Making your own juice is way more economical. I have been DIY my own juice for 6 weeks now, and it has saved me TONS of $$$. Here is a breakdown of what I spend to make my own:

4oz of Lorann natural strawberry = $14 from the Lorann website
DIY Nicjuice, 30mL, 48mg = $12 from DIY supplier
100% PG liquid, 240mL = $4.50 from DIY supplier
Sweetener, 1 lg bottle from DIY supplier, $4

I use 30mL per week, I dilute my 48mg nicjuice down to 15mg.

You would have to bump up these estimated prices a little bit since you would use 35mL per week, but here is the appx weekly cost for me using 30mL:

$3 per week in nicjuice, 23 cents per week in 100%PG, $1.42 per week in Lorann flavoring, 10 cents per week sweetener for a grand total of $4.75 per week.

I would guess, approximately, your weekly cost would be around $5.50 per week. You could spend in 1 week what you spend per day now.

I had no problems making my own juice. Of course, I keep it simple, use only 1 flavor, and don't get too technical about it.

I hope this helps you out!! If you decide to try and DIY your own juices, definitely look at the DIY supplier in the forum supplier tab. They are great to work with, and you can buy little bottles of flavoring ($1.50 each) so you can try out a few flavors and find one you like. I am happy to help you in any way I can as well!

You can do a lot better then $12 for 30ml 48mg nic juice. gourmetvapor.com is having a 40% off sale now (code gv40). Their posted price for 60ml of 48mg is $11.95 thus with 40% off it's only around 7.20, and they have 120ml for $20.95 posted price and with 40% off you would be paying only about .50 more for 120ml as you now do for 30ml -

 

[DirtyLefty]

This does make me wonder what gear you're using to get 10ml out as vapor over the course of the day. Anything 510 would be statistically near-impossible to get that throughput without overheating and burning out atomizers.

I think that this is probably a technique thing. Tell us what you're using for a setup (carts/cartos/drip/etc).

 

[Zen~]

You know, it's easy to pound through juice vaping at 5V or LR on 3.7V... I can quite easilly kill 1ML an HOUR or more with a 2.4 ohm CE2 R4 on a 14500 battery. At 5 V, these things become fog machines, and I love the lush warm vapor... it's worth it!

Just because YOU don't vape that much doesn't make it IMPOSSIBLE to vape more... MUCH MUCH more...

 

[mistinthewoods]

Zen~, I'm either using a 5 volt GLV2 or my Buzz set anywhere from 4.5 to 5.2 volts. Usually with a 2.5 to 3 ohm carto and I can't go through more than 5 or 6 ml vaping like a steam engine all day. I still say if you're going through 10 ml in a day you gotta be throwing 3 or 4 ml away. Can't see it, sorry.
Methinks the OP exaggerated a touch.