Vaping on pure cotton!

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To be completely honest, cotton itself is composed of chemicals. Pretty much everything is composed of chemicals, including things labelled Organic. Chemicals are everywhere, and it's not as if you can avoid ingesting them, or would want to. I grew up in the bosom of the "Organic" movement and I feel safe saying that it's a meaningless term without context.

That said, there might be good reasons to prefer "Organic" cotton. Cotton is not generally cultivated with vaping in mind, and some cotton might be treated with chemicals that you'd rather not inhale. That said, even Organic cotton might be treated with them after harvest. Unless you want to trace the entire history of your cotton back to where it was grown you'll have to live with that possibility. But maybe it's less likely with "Organic" cotton. Maybe.
I would go farther and say that everything on earth is made out of chemicals including us. Cotton is made of almost pure cellulose. It’s a long chain sugar that most plants are made out of including wood.
 

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Hi, my boyfriend and I enjoy vaping, and I messed up by not reading correctly and not knowing the difference between organic and pure cotton. I notice both of our RDA's have been getting very juicy in the mouthpiece which we are inhaling. And the coils just seem to blacken way too quickly!! Just to find out today it's PURE, not organic.. very worried about our health.

Pure cotton is simply that.. stating that it is made of all cotton and not a mix of cotton/rayon or any other contaminates. It does not mean that it hasn't been cleaned or bleached. There is nothing wrong with using pure cotton, but it may affect the taste.

Organic cotton simply states that it is also cotton, but they do not use any "certified organic" chemicals to clean it.

For both of these, it's perfectly fine to use. Most people remove any unwanted taste from the cotton by boiling a batch, wringing it out, and letting it dry completely before storing it in a ziplock bag. That is by far the cheapest way to get a good clean cotton for vaping.

There has been a few companies that have already cleaned and prepared the cotton first... originally for the cosmetic industry, they developed a "totally pure and clean" cotton free of any pesticides or bleach that you can apply your makeup with. They come in the shape of pads, and it has made it big in the vaping industry. Koh Gen Do and Muji Japanese cotton is the preferred cotton solution, and not only vapes clean, but is in a convenient sheet that allows you to cut the desired amount and is not expensive at all. So far, I am on year 2 of a $10 purchase of cotton, and I haven't even went through half of it. I am a light vaper, and I'm very frugal with my cotton.

Others have reported that Rayon is a good wicking material as well, but I have no experience with it.. besides, I have enough cotton as is, and it works fine for me, so no need to change.

I did try some organic cotton and some organic cotton yarn early in my vaping experience, but both seemed to have a funny taste to it. I didn't boil it so that may be the reason, but once I went the Japanese cotton route, I never re-visited the idea of getting cotton balls to work.

I hope that helps.
 

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To be completely honest, cotton itself is composed of chemicals. Pretty much everything is composed of chemicals, including things labelled Organic. Chemicals are everywhere, and it's not as if you can avoid ingesting them, or would want to. I grew up in the bosom of the "Organic" movement and I feel safe saying that it's a meaningless term without context.

That said, there might be good reasons to prefer "Organic" cotton. Cotton is not generally cultivated with vaping in mind, and some cotton might be treated with chemicals that you'd rather not inhale. That said, even Organic cotton might be treated with them after harvest. Unless you want to trace the entire history of your cotton back to where it was grown you'll have to live with that possibility. But maybe it's less likely with "Organic" cotton. Maybe.

You're right, there's chemicals and compounds everywhere. I live in King Cotton Country (N. Alabama). There are fields that are organic and fields that are not. There's not separation of cross pollination as we can't control those pesky insects.

The only way to tell which field is which, is by plant size and output (there's a lot of other factors as well). Generally though organic fields have less output due to non-chemical fertilizers (guess what they use, rhymes with hoop, lol) and insects. It all gets reaped the same way though and sometimes by the same machines, as farmers use the equipment through the CO-OP.

I've used Muji, Koh, cotton balls and even gone out in the field and picked some cotton to try. In the end couldn't taste a bit of difference in any of it (I did triple boil the cotton from the field and have boiled cotton balls).

The biggest difference I've found in all of it is workability. It seems the more processed it is the easier it is to shape. In processed I mean stranded/shaped, to where it runs linear and not just a fuzz ball of cotton.
 
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You Rayonites are relentless!
I call'em Rayonistas. They're as bad as the Provarinati.

I still wanna know where those Japanese farmers are organically growing all that cotton on a volcanic island chain.

When I see "Japanese Organic Cotton," I wonder if that Nigerian prince found a new gig.
 

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I would go farther and say that everything on earth is made out of chemicals including us. Cotton is made of almost pure cellulose. It’s a long chain sugar that most plants are made out of including wood.

I’m not sure that’s going farther than what I said, but I agree of course. I sometimes hedge my bets with terms like “pretty much” because I am absolutely convinced that speaking in absolutes is a bit dangerous.

For instance when we say chemicals we might mean chemical compounds, and pure plutonium wouldn’t qualify. I’d still rather not vape it. And as we inch closer to fusion... should plasma be considered chemicals? I’d rather not vape plasma either.

Of course what people mean when they talk about chemicals is the possibility that the cotton might be treated with synthetic chemicals (for instance flame-......ants) that are pretty safe given the uses cotton is normally put to, but that you’d probably rather not vape.

That’s a legit concern, but... first off the Organic label does not necessarily tell you how the product has been treated post-harvest. Organic labeling regs are complicated. I have some experience with them, and I remain good friends with the people who were primarily responsible for writing the US federal regs around produce labeling (I should note that I have some serious disagreements with them, but this is probably not the place to describe them.)

Precisely what “Organic” means is a contentious issue, and unless you really understand the regs that apply to a particular labeled product (assuming no one cheats, but of course they do) you don’t really know what the label means.

Second, we are robust creatures, for the most part, as evidenced by the fact that a lot of us smoke for years and survive it (sadly, some of us don’t.) There are things you don’t want to be exposed to even once, like plutonium, plasma, and arsenic. But cotton is unlikely to be treated with things that will kill you dead, or even harm you much, given a single exposure.
 

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I call'em Rayonistas. They're as bad as the Provarinati.

I still wanna know where those Japanese farmers are organically growing all that cotton on a volcanic island chain.

When I see "Japanese Organic Cotton," I wonder if that Nigerian prince found a new gig.

I think they're growing it near Fukashima. I "hear" there's no need for fertilizers or pesticides, lol.
 

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I think they're growing it near Fukashima. I "hear" there's no need for fertilizers or pesticides, lol.
It’s a product of world war 2. The Japanese ran out of cotton during the war and decided to protect cotton growers. “Japanese organic cotton” is one of the most restricted crops in the world and can only be grown in Japan. It’s used as makeup remover pads and is the only thing legal to do that with. For a long time japan also protected its rice farmers and refused all rice importation of rice.
 
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I don't think the type of cotton your using is making all that splattering...that can be a few things, one is over flooding, like just dripping to much juice if an rda, or having juice control to open on an rta. You can be just sucking to hard or perhaps not enough cotton in certain places. You can have a high powered, big hole coil and not running enough power through it. You can also have a seal issue, perhaps a bad oring..maybe your going to long between rewicks, or maybe juice is to thin for that coil.....there are definitely a few reasons for juice getting up into your mouth, but type of cotton, not really......

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In the "early" days, didn't folks boil cotton balls to get rid of any chemicals and then use them for wicking?
I remember many boiling their cotton . My first cotton was sterile cotton from cvs, but I never boiled...I had heard if you boiled, but didn't dry it out 100 percent, then you had to worry about mold....the only wicking material I boiled was degumpted hemp.....I think now the hemp is cleaned, but back then it had bark, chips, etc and needed to be processed and boiled. It took some time, but man I loved that stuff!!!

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