Vaping Toxicity - Torturing Spiders

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Linthorn

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Ok, I'll take the hit for cruelty to animals:evil:, but... If you blow cigarette smoke on a spider dangling from a thread it scuttles away like it's burned. Given that nicotine is an insecticide and that there are lots of baddies in the smoke it isn't a surprise. Especially when you consider the size of the beast (low to me is enormous to spidey).

Yesterday I had a spider dangling so I blew my vape onto it. Full-bodied VG/PG mix, 24mg. The spider didn't even notice. I did it about 10 times in a row and the spider didn't react at all (except to getting blown back and forth).

This suggests that:
1. As studies indicated, there's practically no nicotine in exhaled vape
2. The mix appears to be pretty safe, at least to arachnids.

Like a canary in a coal mine; I feel a lot safer with the e.:thumbs:
 
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I've have found one downside to switching from analogs to vapor....
As a fisherman, mosquitoes hate analog smoke but I'm finding they sure as !@#$$%^ don't mind vapor and seem to actually be, gulp, attracted to it :)
Oh No!! I live in the middle of a forest, and often smoke on the deck in self-defense. I've since given up the analogs. Guess I'll have to stock up on citronella. :(
 

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My cats used to run for the hills if they accidentally got a face full of smoke when they were climbing all over me. The first time one of them got a face full of vapor he looked like he was going to jump off of me then he got a really confused look on his face and stayed right where he was. I could see the little wheels turning in his brain and it was like he was thinking "When stuff that looks like that normally hits me it's awful, this isn't bad."
 

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Most biting bugs are attracted, from what I've read, by CO2 exhalations. I guess that's how they home in on living things. It might be that, while you're fishing, you're no longer passively respirating, you're now actively and freqently (if you're like me), blowing the contents of your lungs into the surrounding atmosphere, kind of like sending up a flare. Just a thought.
 

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I've killed a house centipede in a container with vapor, but I had sucked the vapor into my mouth, not my lungs.

That's kind of worrying because it's suggests that second hand vapour is highly toxic....I wouldn't have expected it to have done it any harm other than make it cough!
 

Ursa

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That's kind of worrying because it's suggests that second hand vapour is highly toxic....I wouldn't have expected it to have done it any harm other than make it cough!

Since he hadn't inhaled it, I wouldn't think it qualifies as second hand. It's established fact that nicotine is an insecticide so I don't think the result is surprising.
 

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My cats used to run for the hills if they accidentally got a face full of smoke when they were climbing all over me. The first time one of them got a face full of vapor he looked like he was going to jump off of me then he got a really confused look on his face and stayed right where he was. I could see the little wheels turning in his brain and it was like he was thinking "When stuff that looks like that normally hits me it's awful, this isn't bad."
Thats funny, I got the same look from my dogs.:p
 

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I've have found one downside to switching from analogs to vapor....
As a fisherman, mosquitoes hate analog smoke but I'm finding they sure as !@#$$%^ don't mind vapor and seem to actually be, gulp, attracted to it :)


Thank you! I think the same thing. EVERY time I go outside in the evening I get bit at least once where I never got bit while smoking an analog! I just told my husband this the other night as I was rubbing the benadryl stick on my arm AGAIN. I think its because of the sweetness in the liquid or I'm just so much sweeter now? LOL;)
 

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That's kind of worrying because it's suggests that second hand vapour is highly toxic....I wouldn't have expected it to have done it any harm other than make it cough!

He said he didn't inhale, meaning the vape still had nicotine in it and of course nicotine is a pesticide.
 

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My cats used to run for the hills if they accidentally got a face full of smoke when they were climbing all over me. The first time one of them got a face full of vapor he looked like he was going to jump off of me then he got a really confused look on his face and stayed right where he was. I could see the little wheels turning in his brain and it was like he was thinking "When stuff that looks like that normally hits me it's awful, this isn't bad."
Haha, yes, cats are, according to myth, really sensitive to poisons so I did this with my sisters cat and I got that - going to run - confused look too.
 

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As for mosquitoes, we know that vaping causes lactic acid to build up in the muscles and on the skin (especially if the vaper isn't properly hydrated). Mosquitoes are attracted to lactic acid. QED.



If this is true then it explains why I'm being eaten alive when i never had much of a problem before. There are two things that have made me think about going back to regular smokes, mosquitoes and sneezing! I never sneezed all the time before, I sneeze so much now its rediculous.
 

surbitonPete

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Since he hadn't inhaled it, I wouldn't think it qualifies as second hand. It's established fact that nicotine is an insecticide so I don't think the result is surprising.

Perhaps..... but I am pretty sure that sealing an insect in with a cloud of 'tobacco' smoke isn't enough to kill it, so something is strange, I think I shall have to experiment with this and see it for myself.:)
 

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a drop of 36mg ON a large house spider makes for some entertaining freakout for a few seconds, followed by death :evil:

I had a huge, hairy Florida wolf spider move in with me a couple of summers ago. I told him that he could stay on the side of the house away from my bedroom, but if I woke up with him on my face he was going to be an EX-arachnid.

Saw him lurking and scurrying around (well, they don't really scurry - they don't get that excited) for about two months, and then he disappeared. Never did encroach upon my sleeping space, either.

Wasn't this an interesting post? :D
 
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