Vaping without flavouring and nicotine.
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No one can ever say that inhaling anything is as safe as just breathing air. That said, you're looking at maybe some mild irritation from the vapor, stress the maybe, over the short term. What long term effects are is unknown. Both PG and VG are water soluble and will not clog up your lungs or accumulate like an oil. It's not an oil. Your lungs will simply absorb it.
Excessive temperature applied to a PG/VG mixture may result in the production of breakdown products such as formaldehyde, the amounts unclear is real life vaping, but which can theoretically be formed and are carcinogenic.
Excessive temperature applied to a PG/VG mixture may result in the production of breakdown products such as formaldehyde, the amounts unclear is real life vaping, but which can theoretically be formed and are carcinogenic.
Vaping is too new for much research to be done.. that that has been say it 95% SAFER than smoking.....
VAPING IS safe for smoke tricks.. but smoke is better than vapor for smoke tricks.
BUt vaping safety has more to do with getting gear and using builds that don't leak smoke.
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Find another cool activity.
Any reason for your desire to do vape tricks? Vaping PG and VG is not inherently super dangerous, but you are inhaling new substances into your lungs. Some people are sensitive to PG, or too much VG, and find it affects their breathing. That's not super common. Using VG/PG is probably safer for you than adding in nic and/or flavors but it's not risk FREE, and there aren't any true longitudinal studies to really show the long term effects.
As Eskie said, you are inhaling products that theoretically will not harm your lungs, but there are risks with any activity, and if you are tricking, you may find you need high wattage and hence a hotter vape, which can carry risks of undesirable bi-products into your lungs, and that can be a danger.
I think you will need to find the right mod/setup and etc. for yourself. Also, please educate yourself on battery safety, you are going to need a very good battery to be safe, might start here to read on battery safety if you are really going to do this: Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
Best of luck, but really.... think it through and proceed with caution.
Anna
As Eskie said, you are inhaling products that theoretically will not harm your lungs, but there are risks with any activity, and if you are tricking, you may find you need high wattage and hence a hotter vape, which can carry risks of undesirable bi-products into your lungs, and that can be a danger.
I think you will need to find the right mod/setup and etc. for yourself. Also, please educate yourself on battery safety, you are going to need a very good battery to be safe, might start here to read on battery safety if you are really going to do this: Mooch's Recommended Batteries | E-Cigarette Forum
Best of luck, but really.... think it through and proceed with caution.
Anna
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That is actually wrong. PG has been used in medical inhalers since the 1950's. There is nothing new about inhaling that. If there was a problem with that I think we would know by now.
I think she meant new to the poster not new to everyone and there is a possibility, although slight, of an allergic reaction.
Agreed. Get a dog and teach it how to bowl. It's harder but more satisfying and has the potential to make you more money in the underground dog bowling world.
I've been suspecting for some time that what attracts younger never smokers to smoking or vaping is not to flavor or nicotine but to clouds. May be you're an example of that. The right question is not safe vs unsafe but higher risk vs lower risk. Some British researchers estimate that vaping is 95% lower riisk than smoking. They don't say 100% lower risk, which would be the same thing as zero risk and there is no such thing as 100% safe in anything. A student singer posted here and asked if vaping would hurt his voice. My opinion was he should not vape, not because it would permanently damage his voice but because it would at least temporarily limit his vocal agility. Should elite athletes vape? I think not. My concern would not be that they die younger, like 50% of lifelong smokers, but becaause it's going to limit lung capacity at least a bit at least temporaarily. Vaping is probably contraindicated for at least some people. Are you one of them? So in the long run we're likely to confirm that vaping is far lower risk than smoking but it's still going to be at least somewhat higher risk than never smoking. I wonder what the risk of vaping is compared to riding a bicycle? People get hurt riding bikes. A few die young.
Vape tricking is really just not that cool. The reason i vape is to stay off tobacco. And it works. The ability to make decent clouds gives my lungs the same feeling i was used to by smoking, but other than that, using vaping for anything other than tobacco cessation is just not cool. But thats only my opinion, which im sure will offend some people.
One of the things we apparently don't know is how many never smokers take up vaping and how long they stiick with it. What are the odds of becoming addicted to vaping if there is no nic?
I don't have a great memory but I happento remember my first puff on a cigarette. A buddy had the cigs. I only watched until he successfully blew smoke ring. That's when I had to give it a try. At that time I'm sure I had never heard of nicotine and was aware that grownups didn't approve of kids smoking but addiction and it's consequences were not on my radar. It was the visible vapor that got my attention. Too bad my buddy wan't puffing on a vape pen.
I don't have a great memory but I happento remember my first puff on a cigarette. A buddy had the cigs. I only watched until he successfully blew smoke ring. That's when I had to give it a try. At that time I'm sure I had never heard of nicotine and was aware that grownups didn't approve of kids smoking but addiction and it's consequences were not on my radar. It was the visible vapor that got my attention. Too bad my buddy wan't puffing on a vape pen.
Depends on if you are addicted to substance of smoking/vaping or the actions......
People get addicted to all kinds of substances and activities... like gum chewing or eating paper or even eating boogers and shopping.
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I think the act (hand to mouth and blowing smoke) develops over time and is reinforced by the tobacco hook.
I have to agree. When quitting smoking with other methods, having to stop the motions and sensations was the hardest part for me with other methods.
That being said, it's also not uncommon for people to get very into seeking out actions that cause our brains to release its own feel good chemicals. Such as when successfully accomplishing a task or learning a nee skill.
That being said, it's also not uncommon for people to get very into seeking out actions that cause our brains to release its own feel good chemicals. Such as when successfully accomplishing a task or learning a nee skill.
Thanks for the replies.
I read the other day that when your body burns fat it turns it into glycerol and fatty acids.
So there is glycerol in our blood and our lung cells come into contact with blood, could this prove that vg is safe?
I read the other day that when your body burns fat it turns it into glycerol and fatty acids.
So there is glycerol in our blood and our lung cells come into contact with blood, could this prove that vg is safe?
No, it doesn't prove anything.
Vaping is considered 'safer' than inhaling the toxins & carcinogens typically produced by smoldering tobacco.
Tobacco harm reduction, safer than smoking / tobacco use.
Some folks have from a sensitivity to an allergy to VG, myself included.
I suggest finding something else to do with your spare time.
Vaping is considered 'safer' than inhaling the toxins & carcinogens typically produced by smoldering tobacco.
Tobacco harm reduction, safer than smoking / tobacco use.
Some folks have from a sensitivity to an allergy to VG, myself included.
I suggest finding something else to do with your spare time.
Do remember, any glycerol in your body wasn't heated to 400F to vaporize first. VG is safe so long as you don't overheat it and inhale that stuff.
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