Vaping without Inhaling for the "non smokers"

[LaneyCat]

I know it sounds an odd question, but I've been recommended to start using vapes for an "appetite suppression", essentially, when I feel like snacking, suck on a vape and "trick" my brain into thinking I have snacked, so I won't eat so much rubbish.
Also to help me with my anxiety and depression.

But I don't want to INHALE this stuff into my lungs. I want the taste hit in my mouth, but not in my lungs.... so, how does one suck without inhaling???

 

[Johnnie Price]

The same way you suck on a straw without swallowing. A little will trickle down your throat, but most stays in your mouth.

 

[bedhouin]

<SNIP>

Deleted my post. I saw your reasons and background for picking it up in your earlier topic.

 

[UncleChuck]

Is this a serious thread?

I'm seriously not trying to be rude or poke fun... but how do you possibly NOT know how to suck something into your mouth without inhaling? Ever slurp up some spaghetti? Ever drink anything through a straw? Ever make a goofy face as a child where you suck your cheeks in?

I just can't fathom how someone doesn't know how to suck something into their mouth using your mouth and not lungs...

Nobody can really tell you or teach you. It's like asking "How do I move my arm up and down?"

 

[Plumes.91]

ECF does NOT support people whom were NOT smokers, to start vaping. Mainly because we think it'd shed a bad light on vaping. We don't want to be known for starting a vaping trend with people that don't already smoke. It would make vaping look reallly bad. Please tell this to whomever recommended vaping to you. Especially if they are a professional in the medical or psychological fields.

With that said, use 4-6mg nicotine if you refuse to take my advice. Nicotine is about as harmful as coffee, but you wouldn't have a cup of coffee every 20-30 minutes, would you? No. So use no nicotine for the most part. Those of us already addicted to nicotine have to have it every 20-30 minutes to not have a nicotine fit. You DONT want to get addicted and have that problem. Answering this is hard for me because I DONT want vaping to be known to get non-nicotine addicts addicted to nicotine.

You would probably benefit from food flavored juices. Juicyvapor.com would be a great shop to try. Hell there is even bacon e-liquid. As far as not inhaling... you'll know how to do it when you try to do it. lol. Its a lot like putting food in your mouth and not swallowing.

 

[Ryedan]

I think the same way people smoke pipes. This is from a description of how to smoke a pipe (googled):

'You can either hold the smoke in your mouth for a few seconds and just let it drift out and stop there, or you can take a puff, keep the smoke and the pipe stem in your mouth, then a few seconds later, take another puff, letting the previous puff escape into the air. Some smokers will swallow a small quantity of the smoke, which causes it to escape through the nose and look like you had inhaled it. But you didn't.'

I just tried it and I found it hard to do because I am used to inhaling. The flavor was also muted. If I were going to do this, I would buy juice with extra flavor added.

 

[Ryedan]

Plumes, you have a good point, but here is a post from LaneyCat that explains the situation much better.

 

[LaneyCat]

I'm not using nicotine. Nor did I mention nicotine. My sample vial I am getting is "white chocolate".

But the doctor also did not mention nicotine. I know you can get nicotine free ones, which is what I'm getting and what he recommended. I'm a sweet tooth, he wants me to get the sweet flavours, so I can hit on those and get the flavour hit and trick my brain into thinking I've eaten the sweeties my brain is craving.


And yes, Chuck, I am being completely serious. The action of sucking on a straw is with a full liquid and then the act of sucking on a gas, usually tends to be different, as gases/vapours are "lighter" than liquid.
If I pick up a straw, hold it in the air and suck on it, whilst not sucking a liquid, I am not taking air into my mouth alone, I am taking it into my lungs as well. So one can presume when sucking on a vapour into their mouth, that they could also be inhaling it into the lungs and not just into the mouth as one is with something heavy, like spaghetti or a drink.
The only way I know of to NOT suck on an empty straw and not be inhaling air through the straw is to "slurp" on it. Which I dunno, will "slurping" work and have the proper drawing action?

Since the vape is actually MADE to be inhaled, not straight sucked like a straw, different densities, all that crap.

 

[Plumes.91]

Just fill your mouth up with the vapor and then blow it out. Thats pretty much all I do, except once my mouth is full, instead of blowing out, do a split second inhale to let it tickle my throat, and then I blow it out. You can let it fill your mouth with vapor and then blow it out without a problem and once you've done it repeatedly it'll be 2nd nature.

Even without nicotine, your doctor is treading dangerous waters telling non-smokers to use vaporizers. That is all the FDA needs to hear to ban e-cigarettes. "PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SMOKED A DAY IN THEIR LIVES ARE BEING TURNED ON TO THESE E-CIGS AND EVENTUALLY GETTING ADDICTED TO NICOTINE!"

 

[LaneyCat]

Thanks bigsmke....would click "like" or "thanks", but am just not seeing it at the minute.... O_O


FDA can suck ...., since you don't HAVE to use nicotine, and I'm NOT using nicotine.
Years ago I USED to smoke. And even to this day, despite the fact that cigarettes make me physically sick, when I get high levels of anxiety (which actually happens on a daily basis), I crave a smoke. Its one reason the doctor thought this would help, as several times, I went and bought the cheapest pack of cigs I could find and would start smoking.... within 20 minutes, get a massive migraine and within 10 minutes of that, I'd be throwing up violently.

 

[UncleChuck]

And yes, Chuck, I am being completely serious. The action of sucking on a straw is with a full liquid and then the act of sucking on a gas, usually tends to be different, as gases/vapours are "lighter" than liquid.
If I pick up a straw, hold it in the air and suck on it, whilst not sucking a liquid, I am not taking air into my mouth alone, I am taking it into my lungs as well. So one can presume when sucking on a vapour into their mouth, that they could also be inhaling it into the lungs and not just into the mouth as one is with something heavy, like spaghetti or a drink.
The only way I know of to NOT suck on an empty straw and not be inhaling air through the straw is to "slurp" on it. Which I dunno, will "slurping" work and have the proper drawing action?

Since the vape is actually MADE to be inhaled, not straight sucked like a straw, different densities, all that crap.

Fair enough. I'll repeat again it was not my intent to be rude or insulting. It just seemed like a very odd question to me and made me think perhaps someone was trying to have some fun at our expense. If you were offended in any way please accept my apologies.

As far as your comparison between sucking a straw with liquid in it vs just sucking in air, I'm still not getting the difference. Most all smokers and vapers draw smoke/vapor into their mouth FIRST, and then inhale into their lungs. For me, the action taken to suck liquid into my mouth through a straw is exactly the same action as drawing smoke or vapor into my mouth before inhaling.

I'll try to describe the best possible way I can, but it will be basically the same as describing sucking liquid through a straw, so I don't know if it will help:

Close off your throat with the back of your tongue. Raise the back of your tongue up so it contacts the rear-roof of your mouth, right around the area where that little dangly thing is. Then move your tongue forward until your tongue is all the way at the front of your mouth. Keep your throat sealed off from your mouth with your tongue the whole time. Keep your jaw almost all the way closed, with about a 6mm gap between your top and bottom front teeth.

Put the ecig up to your lips, and then slowly move your tongue backwards, again still keeping a seal of your tongue against the roof/back of your mouth/throat. While doing this, also slowly open your jaw at the same time.

Time it so that when your jaw is as open as possible for having your lips sealed around the ecig, at the same time your tongue is moved as far back as possible in your mouth. Still making sure to keep a seal of your tongue against the top-back of your mouth.

Doing this creates a vacuum.

Then blow the vapor out.

I feel like I'm trying to get ISO9001 certified for vaping.

 

[LaneyCat]

That was a really good description though!!! LOL

For me its just weird, as when I inhale something, I open the throat, so it barely is in my mouth, the mouth is just like extra straw... As I always hated the taste of my ciggies... tobacco is such a horrendous taste to me....
so I would just open the throat and inhale like when you open your mouth and take a huge gasp of air after coming out from underwater or something. The actions sole purpose is not for the air to go into your mouth, but deep into your lungs.
Where in this instance, I want it to be like a straw, only going into the mouth.....
I guess I'll work on it. LOL.

 

[Scottinboca]

Get Zero Nic E-liquid!!! You can inhale all you want!

 

[ardelleg]

"ECF does NOT support people whom were NOT smokers, to start vaping."

Really?

 

[bacc.vap]

I've been attempting bringing vapor into my mouth and letting it go without inhaling,I'm getting almost no flavor. If you let it out of your mouth and inhale a little in your nose you get some flavor, makes sense cause most of flavor is smell. I also tried going from mouth and out nose without inhaling, not very pleasant, it burns a little.

 

[Plumes.91]

you get used to that burn. I do that all the time!

 

[vsummer1]

"ECF does NOT support people whom were NOT smokers, to start vaping."

Really?

I had never heard of that either.

Listen, if a DOCTOR is prescribing this to his patient, who are we to say one word? BUT I think the OP needs to clarify with the Dr. what level, if any, of nicotine is being recommended. Nicotine is an appetite suppressant, and the flavors will keep you from craving the sweets, with the hand to mouth taken care of as well. I would think a very low nic (say 6 mg) may be what the doc is thinking of? You won't need to inhale, as the gum and lozenges use the mucous membranes to absorb the nicotine so we know it is absorbed in that manner. And of course if the Dr. does mean no nicotine, it won't matter anyway.

I hope this works well for you. I know I use the dessert flavors in this manner also, and have managed to lose a few pounds vaping dessert instead of eating it

 

[Strigoi]

I don't see how an e-cig is going to help. I use several sweet flavors and they do nothing to curb any desire I have for something sweet. If anything they make me want it more because it's not the same as eating that item. I just don't keep that type of stuff in the house so it's not an issue for me. FWIW, I'm 270lbs, so it's not like I'm some skinny guy telling you this.

Why doesn't your doctor recommend eating properly and exercise instead of e-cigs?

 

[vsummer1]

I don't see how an e-cig is going to help. I use several sweet flavors and they do nothing to curb any desire I have for something sweet. If anything they make me want it more because it's not the same as eating that item. I just don't keep that type of stuff in the house so it's not an issue for me. FWIW, I'm 270lbs, so it's not like I'm some skinny guy telling you this.

Why doesn't your doctor recommend eating properly and exercise instead of e-cigs?

I am disabled and can't walk well. I am forbidden from any weight bearing exercise, and can't use an exercise bike either so maybe the OP is also? What does it really matter, as that is between the OP and the OP's doctor?

Here is an interesting read:
Researchers learning how nicotine works as an appetite suppressant | Ars Technica

 

[BikerBob]

I'm reading this thread while enjoying some 0-nic liquid. Just 'sipping' it, letting the flavor linger in my mouth, maybe letting some into my throat, and up into my nose. Then gently release the vapor, most coming from my mouth, a little through my nose. I'm enjoying the taste/smell of the vapor. Inhale? Maybe a little into my throat, but not deep into my lungs (that's too much like "smoking"...I'm "vaping" instead) If I did inhale, that flavor would get wasted in my lungs where I couldn't savor the taste/aroma, so why bother inhaling? (When I had smoked a pipe, many tobaccos were best enjoyed using this method, as they were too harsh to inhale).

This description is pretty much the same as bigsmke, Plumes.91 and UncleChuck presented. I find this easy to do with 0-nic liquids, but when I get the nicotine cravings and pick up my 24mg liquids, I find myself inhaling like it was a cigarette...nearly 40 years of habit is tough to break.