Vaping without Inhaling for the "non smokers"

[Scottinboca]

I couldn't agree more with eating better and exercising. To the op, maybe the Lap-Band would be more effective means to loosing weight if this is the issue if you can't exercise or control your eating habits.

I don't see how an e-cig is going to help. I use several sweet flavors and they do nothing to curb any desire I have for something sweet. If anything they make me want it more because it's not the same as eating that item. I just don't keep that type of stuff in the house so it's not an issue for me. FWIW, I'm 270lbs, so it's not like I'm some skinny guy telling you this.

Why doesn't your doctor recommend eating properly and exercise instead of e-cigs?

 

[vsummer1]

I forgot to add, DRINK water. vaping dehydrates you, part of the vapor is actually moisture being pulled from YOU. I drink a few liters a day now and that keeps me feeling full enough that I don't snack as much as I used to even when I smoked

 

[vsummer1]

I couldn't agree more with eating better and exercising. To the op, maybe the Lap-Band would be more effective means to loosing weight if this is the issue if you can't exercise or control your eating habits.

So you would recommend a life altering SURGERY that not all people can have? I had a patient who was not well screened come to my ICU after one of these surgeries. She ate some inappropriate foods and tore herself open. Not every person wants to live on a thimblefull of baby food for months; some are simply not psychologically stable enough.

THIS IS BETWEEN THE OP AND HER DOCTOR. Please people, stop with the judgments!

 

[Sandcrab]

When used this way it's Le Whaffing.

http://www.cowshake.com/postImages/le_whaf-normal.jpg

 

[NancyR]

OP first off welcome to ECF

I don't see how an e-cig is going to help. I use several sweet flavors and they do nothing to curb any desire I have for something sweet. If anything they make me want it more because it's not the same as eating that item. I just don't keep that type of stuff in the house so it's not an issue for me. FWIW, I'm 270lbs, so it's not like I'm some skinny guy telling you this.

Why doesn't your doctor recommend eating properly and exercise instead of e-cigs?

I couldn't agree more with eating better and exercising. To the op, maybe the Lap-Band would be more effective means to loosing weight if this is the issue if you can't exercise or control your eating habits.

Now to both of you, if those things work for you, do them. They do not work for everyone, that is like telling a smoker you want to quit smoking just use the patch or not smoke. Like Vsummer, I have medical issues that keep me from doing alot of the things I should like walking, but then my doctor finally tried me on thyroid meds a few months ago. She also tested my vitamin D which is something no other doc has bothered with. A mix of the thyroid, vitamin D and my vaping is doing what nothing else in my life has ever done.

And for the record, before becoming disabled I use to ride a bike or walk everywhere I went, even walking 5 miles a day I never lost a single pound.

In other countries they are finding e-cigs without nic CAN help with cravings, hell I have found that myself, not all juices help but I have a few when I have a craving I can drip and take care of the craving.

 

[NancyR]

For anyone else that wants to set there and say she should do this or that and not vape, how many times where you told to quit smoking?

 

[Ryedan]

I don't see how an e-cig is going to help. I use several sweet flavors and they do nothing to curb any desire I have for something sweet. If anything they make me want it more because it's not the same as eating that item. I just don't keep that type of stuff in the house so it's not an issue for me. FWIW, I'm 270lbs, so it's not like I'm some skinny guy telling you this.

Why doesn't your doctor recommend eating properly and exercise instead of e-cigs?

Strigoi, we are all different. Just because you feel you are in the same situation as the OP, don't assume you know how they feel or what is best for them. What works for one of us doesn't necessarily work for all of us.

 

[Jerms]

When used this way it's Le Whaffing.

http://www.cowshake.com/postImages/le_whaf-normal.jpg

Hehe good call. I'll admit I get a little uncomfortable when non smokers are talking of picking up vaping. That's my issue tho, not theirs, so I'll also use Le Whaffing to refer to vaping for purely flavor reasons, whatever reason that may be.

My only question for the op is, since you're using juice without nicotine and inhaling directly into the lungs is more natural for you, what's your reason for not wanting to do it that way? If you do decide to use nic liquid, you should realize that eliquid vapor actually gets absorbed through the mouth so you're getting nicotine no matter which technique you use.

I remember a thread a while back that some people didn't know how to take vapor into the mouth without inhaling. It turned out they actually smoked that way too, by sucking the smoke directly into their lungs. It confused a lot of people who had assumed everyone smoked by first pulling into their mouth and then inhale into lungs (I assumed that too). I believe it was thought that maybe younger generations were never taught how to properly smoke and just did it differently, because none of the older people took drags directly into their lungs. It was a heck of a struggle trying to explain the mechanics of something that seems so natural for us to do to someone who just couldn't get it. I would say if you can't simultaniously inhale and exhale through your nose while taking a drag you're not doing a mouth drag correctly.

By the way, if anyone's never tried inhaling directly into your lungs give it a try. Just take a deep inhale while activating your ecig. It's easier with a set-up with a loose draw, and a very unpleasant way to vape. Some people actually vape that way! More than I would have guessed.

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[CanadianCow]

I am watching this thread because I am planning on 0 nic and going the non-tobacco flavors. I did feel compelled to post because does it really matter what the reasons another adult has for starting to vape?

 

[Jerms]

does it really matter what the reasons another adult has for starting to vape?

Not to most of us, but sadly it may to the FDA.

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[NancyR]

I am watching this thread because I am planning on 0 nic and going the non-tobacco flavors. I did feel compelled to post because does it really matter what the reasons another adult has for starting to vape?

Good luck to you!!! I think part of the problem is those of us here that started vaping to get away from cigs realize that while this is better for us, it is not 100% safe, so we tend to not want to see people who don't need to vape start.

Just read on everything, know your risks and make an informed choice that will be best for you.

 

[Chrispixx]

I'm a sweet tooth, he wants me to get the sweet flavours, so I can hit on those and get the flavour hit and trick my brain into thinking I've eaten the sweeties my brain is craving.

I vape sweet juice and i still crave cookies, brownies donuts, cake and such, so i am not sure how well that will work out for you.

Years ago I USED to smoke. despite the fact that cigarettes make me physically sick, within 20 minutes, i get a massive migraine and within 10 minutes of that, I'd be throwing up violently.

That may not happen with vaping,especially at a low nic level. It may have been the other bad stuff in ciggies that made you sick. So if vaping does not make you sick, might as well inhale and enjoy it. Nothing bad about that.

 

[flowerchild]

I vape no nic mostly..I smoked for 25 years. I had spine surgery at the beginning of the year and my surgeon told me after a not very successful op that it would help if I gave up smoking.I found vapeing hard as I have never had a sweet tooth in fact I never ate any kind of sugary things in my life. I hated the tobacco vapes and had to resort to sweeter vapes as I have a Pg allergy and 100% Vg is sweet. i now like certain sweet flavoured juices and have started eating desserts . This is not a problem for me as I lost weight after my surgery and have always been underweight. this is my vapeing experience, if I was overweight before I started i would have put on more unwanted kilos...food for thought as it were...........

 

[vsummer1]

Not to most of us, but sadly it may to the FDA.

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I doubt an Australian doctor has to go by what the FDA says.

 

[Caridwen]

ECF does NOT support people whom were NOT smokers, to start vaping. Mainly because we think it'd shed a bad light on vaping. We don't want to be known for starting a vaping trend with people that don't already smoke. It would make vaping look reallly bad. Please tell this to whomever recommended vaping to you. Especially if they are a professional in the medical or psychological fields.

With that said, use 4-6mg nicotine if you refuse to take my advice. Nicotine is about as harmful as coffee, but you wouldn't have a cup of coffee every 20-30 minutes, would you? No. So use no nicotine for the most part. Those of us already addicted to nicotine have to have it every 20-30 minutes to not have a nicotine fit. You DONT want to get addicted and have that problem. Answering this is hard for me because I DONT want vaping to be known to get non-nicotine addicts addicted to nicotine.

You would probably benefit from food flavored juices. Juicyvapor.com would be a great shop to try. Hell there is even bacon e-liquid. As far as not inhaling... you'll know how to do it when you try to do it. lol. Its a lot like putting food in your mouth and not swallowing.

We have a sub-forum for people who vape 0 nicotine.

Zero Nicotine Vaping and Quitting Vaping

 

[Cicada]

I know it sounds an odd question, but I've been recommended to start using vapes for an "appetite suppression", essentially, when I feel like snacking, suck on a vape and "trick" my brain into thinking I have snacked, so I won't eat so much rubbish.
Also to help me with my anxiety and depression.

But I don't want to INHALE this stuff into my lungs. I want the taste hit in my mouth, but not in my lungs.... so, how does one suck without inhaling???

have you ever smoked a cigar?

you do it just like that -- take the vapor/smoke into your mouth, and just push it out with your cheeks. you can still do smoke tricks (rings, etc) this way, too.

 

[lulu836]

Close off your throat with the back of your tongue. Raise the back of your tongue up so it contacts the rear-roof of your mouth, right around the area where that little dangly thing is. Then move your tongue forward until your tongue is all the way at the front of your mouth. Keep your throat sealed off from your mouth with your tongue the whole time. Keep your jaw almost all the way closed, with about a 6mm gap between your top and bottom front teeth.

Put the ecig up to your lips, and then slowly move your tongue backwards, again still keeping a seal of your tongue against the roof/back of your mouth/throat. While doing this, also slowly open your jaw at the same time.

Time it so that when your jaw is as open as possible for having your lips sealed around the ecig, at the same time your tongue is moved as far back as possible in your mouth. Still making sure to keep a seal of your tongue against the top-back of your mouth.

Doing this creates a vacuum.

Then blow the vapor out.

I feel like I'm trying to get ISO9001 certified for vaping.

That is the most thorough explanation I have ever seen or heard. I love it!! Who knew there was so much effort in taking a drag from an ecig or an analog for that matter. Indeed you should be certified as a "vaping teacher".