Vapor Absorption

[Justin_]

VG is vegetable glycerin also known as glycerol. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia, "Glycerol is also produced as a byproduct of refining of cooking and salad oils, and various brands (e.g, NOW) are sold to the retail market as "Pure Vegetable Source" glycerin, 100% pure, which is safe for ingestion."

I have been vaping Blu cigs for about two months. I understand that once the e-liquid is vaporized, the nicotine is then carried to the lungs in order to be absorbed. Chemically speaking, is the nicotine dissolved in the e-liquid solution? When you vaporize e-liquid, what are the chemicals taken into your lungs and which ones are absorbed?

I want to take a "Pure Vegetable Source" glycerin base and chemically bond a compound to the fat molecules within. I want to know if that compound would then be carried to the lungs in order to be absorbed once vaporized.

 

[CaptJay]

Studies haven't been done to any large degree so we really can't tell you, is the simple answer. We can postulate based on experiments done for food addition (and those were done more extensively on PG) but we cannot state categorically.
You will find studies and results that HAVE been done linked on the CASAA | The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association under resources.

 

[zoiDman]

.. I want to take a "Pure Vegetable Source" glycerin base and chemically bond a compound to the fat molecules within. I want to know if that compound would then be carried to the lungs in order to be absorbed once vaporized.

Why would you want it to be “Chemically Bonded”? Why wouldn’t your compound in suspension be sufficient.

What is ( Remember there are rules here against discussing ingestion of illegal substances.) compound you want to ingest?

 

[Justin_]

Let me phrase this question another way then. Nicotine taken into the lungs gets absorbed, whether it's in a cigarette or in e-juice. If a compound can be absorbed by the lungs, does it matter how you get that compound to the lungs? Can I simply add that compound to the e-juice mixture?

 

[zoiDman]

No reason why you couldn't. As long as your compound is chemicaly stable when it is vaporized by the atomizer.

 

[DC2]

Let me phrase this question another way then. Nicotine taken into the lungs gets absorbed, whether it's in a cigarette or in e-juice. If a compound can be absorbed by the lungs, does it matter how you get that compound to the lungs? Can I simply add that compound to the e-juice mixture?

I am no expert but I believe it depends on whether or not that compound will travel with the vapor, how efficiently it will travel, and whether or not the lungs are willing to absorb that compound in that form.

 

[Justin_]

If the compound travels with smoke, it would travel with vapor? Whether it's nicotine or something else, does it matter if it's in a solid mixture like a cigarette or in a liquid one like e-juice?

 

[fursty99]

If the compound travels with smoke, it would travel with vapor? Whether it's nicotine or something else, does it matter if it's in a solid mixture like a cigarette or in a liquid one like e-juice?

i would have to say that is a correct assumption. IF it will travel in smoke it will travel in vapor as they are not that different. solids are just liquids whose molecules are "closer and more compact" remember H2O is water, steam, and ice. all the same molecular substances, just "moving" at a different rate

 

[Justin_]

That's what I would assume. Is that true though, even if the solid and liquid are composed of different compounds? I would think so. Cigarettes and e-juice are comprised of different compounds. Both deliver nicotine to the lungs. What if you put nicotine in water to be vaporized? Would the nicotine travel to the lungs still? Does it hitch a ride on something in both cigarettes and e-juice?

 

[mistinthewoods]

There's a mechanical factor to consider. Oil based substances don't do atomizers much good. That's why we don't use oil based flavorings. (spearmint oil, peppermint oil, etc.) The substance you are trying not to name would have to be refined to an alcohol or reduced to a solid (powder) that could be dissolved in glycerin.

 

[Fixr]

Doesn't the VG/PG create the "smoke" effect?
I would assume that nic in water would technically "work" but not create the smokey effect. I am sure someone will set me straight.

BTW, I am really glad I found this site, it's already been invaluable and I am looking forward to tossing the analogs, however not nearly as much as my wife is! hehe...

 

[mistinthewoods]

Smoking and vaping are WAY different things. When you smoke you're burning a substance so the combustion changes the chemical makeup of the substance you're smoking. It reduces things to carbons and such. When you vaporize glycerin you're just breaking it down into particles small enough to become air borne. You're not burning it.
That's why vaping is so much better for you............ I think we should keep it that way.

 

[Grenage]

Salt is water soluble, but when the water is heated, the salt remains behind. I guess it depends very much on what you're adding.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if I asked what you were adding, the answer would be breaking the forum rules.

 

[Justin_]

I throw out an example. If I took tobacco, ground it up into powder, and let it dissolve in glycerin, would your lungs absorb the same compounds out of that mixture as it would from burning the tobacco, such as nicotine?

 

[Grenage]

Ground tobacco would not dissolve in the glycerine. I imagine what would happen, is that it would get caught in the atomiser, and get burned up. That would possibly be the same as smoking a real cigarette, and knacker the atomiser quite sharpish.

 

[Justin_]

Knacker? How would you be able to tell if something would dissolve in glycerin?

 

[Grenage]

English saying; it means to destroy/break/tire.

If the molecules are polar, it would probably be soluble; I shall leave it at that!

 

[Justin_]

Could you elaborate?

 

[Grenage]

Hi again,

If we went any further down this path, I'm sure the thread would be locked/deleted. It would be best to stop before that happens, I think.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Salt is water soluble, but when the water is heated, the salt remains behind. I guess it depends very much on what you're adding.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if I asked what you were adding, the answer would be breaking the forum rules.

Both good points sir. I think I know the answer the OP is looking for but I won't endorse the misuse of the PV. It does too much good for people and now is a very bad time to sully that reputation.