Vapor from Tornado not any better than my other PVs...

[NatureBoy]

So far I'm not too impressed.... I've been comparing the same juice with my DSE084 and Sidesho, and they all pretty much produce the same amount of vapor. The 084 actually being the most consistent out of all of them, and also has better flavor.

I thought the Tornado was supposed to be a super awesome totally crazy vapor/flavor machine?



Suggestions?

 

[xdunlapx]

That's what I heard. Does it use a 510 atty?

 

[googled]

It's a high capacity 510 battery with a cone..the cone does alter the properties of the vapour but not to the extent a 6 volt mod would . For me it gives longer uses between charges than an 14500 battery and gives with more consistent vapour through the life of the charge in an inconspicuous package compared to using a mod with a 14500.
It's much less of an initial investment than a mod too and in the UK 14500's only come cheap from China which can take weeks. I get tons of vapour out of any 510 device but that might be down to the juice - I try to only use Joye 510's too because SLB's version doesn't cut it for me.

 

[NatureBoy]

That's what I heard. Does it use a 510 atty?

It uses what they call a 'modified' 510 atty. Not sure what's different about them.


Maybe I need to play around with different PG/VG ratios to try and get some better vapor production? Right now the juice I'm working with is roughly 70% VG.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

OK I will just have to say the 510 does produce great vapor... and the cone of the tornado/ego does change the draw which in turn effects the vapor "production" But the type of liquid you use would be determining "hella" vapor i.e. vg juice produces more vapor than pg juice.... AND 6v would produce much more....

I don't know your experiences personally , but the tornado/ego isn't a machine its an ecig putting out an x amount of voltage that's all.... the charge lasts longer than any current ECIG battery... and the tighter draw adds a different experience than other ecig types.

Now if you are not getting the vapor you are wanting I don't know what to say... I am only saying that the 510 on a tornado should produce nice vapor

 

[spaky]

All it that the Tornado and Ego are are bigger batteries that last longer. I don't have either, but I have assumed that on a full charge that they would both at first perform like any of the regular batteries on a full charge. However with the larger capacity they should be able to produce a more consistent hit longer. Maybe you need to look into the HV mods that can use 6+ volts.

 

[Slighter]

It uses regular Joye 510 atties. The exact same ones I have purchased from TW in the past. In my short experience (got mine Wed) with it it I find it produces increased and warmer vapor compared to my reg 510s with the same juices. Not equal to my SB but I am also not hitting it as long as I get very satisfying vapes with shorter drags.

 

[Wireguy]

The standard 510 batteries put out about 3.1v. The bigger batteries put out about 4.2 volts and put it out longer. Check out this.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

There is a difference.

 

[raqball]

I don't think it (eGo/Tronado) puts out more vapor when they are both freshly charged... What you get with the eGo/Tornado is that unlike the 510, it produces evenly over the life of the battery...

What I mean is... A freshly charged 510 gives a very nice throat hit and vapor for the 1st 20 or so drags, then it begins to drop off dramatically... The eGo/Tornado gives the same throat hit and vapor consistently throughout the life of the battery... The 1st hit is the same as the last...

 

[anim8r]

I don't think it (eGo/Tronado) puts out more vapor when they are both freshly charged... What you get with the eGo/Tornado is that unlike the 510, it produces evenly over the life of the battery...

What I mean is... A freshly charged 510 gives a very nice throat hit and vapor for the 1st 20 or so drags, then it begins to drop off dramatically... The eGo/Tornado gives the same throat hit and vapor consistently throughout the life of the battery... The 1st hit is the same as the last...

^ Agree!

The Tornado's batteries have twice the amperage of regular Joye 510 batteries. My tornado produces slightly more vapor than my regular Joye 510 and slightly less than my Protege.

In my experience, taste seems to drop a bit as the amperage goes up.

The Tornado doesn't lose hardly any flavor, but maintains great vapor production thoughout it's HUGE battery life. Not bad for an $80 kit.

 

[NatureBoy]

Happy to say the vapor got progressively better the next couple days. I think it was a bit of a learning curve as far as how hard/much to draw, etc compared with the other models I have. The atty was probably getting 'broken in' as well.

Overall I'm quite satisfied with this product. Hopefully they'll last me a while since the warranty isn't as generous as Janty's.

 

[Quick1]

^ Agree!

The Tornado's batteries have twice the amperage of regular Joye 510 batteries. My tornado produces slightly more vapor than my regular Joye 510 and slightly less than my Protege.

In my experience, taste seems to drop a bit as the amperage goes up.

The Tornado doesn't lose hardly any flavor, but maintains great vapor production thoughout it's HUGE battery life. Not bad for an $80 kit.

Amperage is sort of a measure of current. mAh (milli-amp hours) is the capacity of the battery if that many miliamps is drawn for 1 hour. A device pulling/using current from a battery draws a certain amount of current. Think of a millamp as a unit of energy. Let's say a device draws 450 milliamps to operate. If it is drawing that current from a 900 mAh battery you might expect the device to operate for about 1/2 hour before the battery is drained.

Voltage is the potential and will drop off as the battery approaches being drained. A battery will sort of deliver constant power until it starts to get drained and then everything drops off. How fast it drops off at the end depends on the type of battery. It's like your flashlight on an old style battery will gradually get dimmer and dimmer for a relatively long time. On something like a Li-Ion it will start to dim and then very quickly just go out. Not a whole lot between full on and full off.

So... you would not expect different mAh ratings of batteries of the same type, used in the same device, to effect taste or vapor or anything. Just how long they operate.

Now, having said all that. It would matter if the tornado is not the same device as a Joye 510 (and not simply re-branded). It seems that there is a measurable voltage drop across the 510's electronics (see footnote). If the tornado incorporates different electronics (mainly the switch) then there very well may be a difference in taste, vapor, etc. But that would be because the end device (atomizer) would be receiving a different voltage. Still nothing to do with amperage/mAh ratings of the battery.

footnote: Thank you Dr. House -- dang it, I can remember your avatar but forgot your screen name Found it. Thank you Scottbee.

 

[NatureBoy]

hmm... now it's not working well again. maybe it needs better juice...

 

[Scottbee]

^ Agree!

The Tornado's batteries have twice the amperage of regular Joye 510 batteries.

WOAH! Thay have two to three times the milli-Amp-hours. Not twice the amperage.

They run the same volts as a standard 510 battery, and therefore they run the same amperage too (into the same load). They just have more capacity.

Edit: I see that Quick1 covered some of this already. That's what I get for not hitting "refresh".

 

[alyx727]

I have the tornado and have found that it draws a whole lot better and produces more vapor when I drilled 2 pinholes in the cone. Its an air thing. It would behoove the manufacturer to go ahead and have the holes in the cone. Makes GREAT vapor and the battery lasts at least a whole day for me.

 

[River]

I found almost no difference from a regular 510 battery to the tornado battery in performance except that the tornado performs that way longer and with less drop off over time.

What the normal 510 manual battery does for the first 15-20 mins the tornado does(for me) almost all day.

 

[alyx727]

I really think that is why they made a bigger battery...longer life. Nothing else. I do like the fact that I am not always recharging.