Vaporshark DNA200

[AtmizrOpin]

evic 5000mah 3.7volts = 18.5 watt hours
fullymax 900mah 11.1volts =10 watt hours

evic has more watt hours. that's assuming evic didn't lie on their lipos.

 

[Tpat591]

It was like that since the day I bought it, also its not even that old. Maybe 2 months old.


Anybody got an answer to that first question. It was in response to tpat591 saying "Sorry, the packs the DNA200 use are 3S meaning 3 cell in series. They operate at 11.1v not 3.7v."

Yes Evic VT is 3.7v. AtmizrOpin confirmed in his reply to you.

The math behind the batteries is here:
Steam Engine has a battery drain calculator that can show you the math behind it all here:
Battery drain | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[coilburner]

evic 5000mah 3.7volts = 18.5 watt hours
fullymax 900mah 11.1volts =10 watt hours

evic has more watt hours. that's assuming evic didn't lie on their lipos.

So what does that mean?

 

[Tpat591]

evic 5000mah 3.7volts = 18.5 watt hours
fullymax 900mah 11.1volts =10 watt hours

evic has more watt hours. that's assuming evic didn't lie on their lipos.

you mean like in that 1500mah egrip.

 

[Tpat591]

So what does that mean?

All thing being equal your VT would last about 1.85 times longer than VS200 at the same settings, with the same atty, theoretically speaking.

It is known that JT advertises battery ratings on some lipos that no other battery manufacturer in the world can match in similar sized packs. It is therefore considered unlikely that you well actually see this type of performance in a real world, side by side comparison.

You might however get 1.5 times the life out of the VT over the VS200.

 

[KTMRider]

It was like that since the day I bought it, also its not even that old. Maybe 2 months old.


Anybody got an answer to that first question. It was in response to tpat591 saying "Sorry, the packs the DNA200 use are 3S meaning 3 cell in series. They operate at 11.1v not 3.7v."

New batteries can be faulty.

A quick search (and refreshing my memory), the Evic VT uses a 1500mah 3s. They claim the cells are actually rated at 1670mah making the pack equivalent to a 5010mah battery. So they operate at nominal 11.1v (12.6v fully charged).

Personally, I think it's slimy marketing claiming 1500mah batteries as 1670mah because one pack tested as such. You never see a 1670mah battery in the market in any form because they're 1500mah battery packs. Yes, they may hold more capacity or test higher but they're still 1500mah cells.

Putting a Porsche badge on a VW doesn't make it a Porsche.

 

[coilburner]

New batteries can be faulty.

A quick search (and refreshing my memory), the Evic VT uses a 1500mah 3s. They claim the cells are actually rated at 1670mah making the pack equivalent to a 5010mah battery. So they operate at nominal 11.1v (12.6v fully charged).

Personally, I think it's slimy marketing claiming 1500mah batteries as 1670mah because one pack tested as such. You never see a 1670mah battery in the market in any form because they're 1500mah battery packs. Yes, they may hold more capacity or test higher but they're still 1500mah cells.

Putting a Porsche badge on a VW doesn't make it a Porsche.

It was my memory, and also others on this thread have confirmed, that the evic vt cells run in parallel making it 3.7 volts.
Also I could have sworn that pbusardo was one reviewer who confirmed the battery is actually 5000 mAh. whether it is or not is irrelevant anyways because ifs its not its close enough.
As far as new batteries being fauly. This is my second evic vt and the battery life on the first one was the same. also not sure what part of the firing button be held down for a total of 25 min at 40 watts seems unreasonable.
Anyways it seems the answer to my question is that my evic vt battery would last about 1.5 times longer than the vs200.

 

[Tpat591]

It was my memory, and also others on this thread have confirmed, that the evic vt cells run in parallel making it 3.7 volts.
Also I could have sworn that pbusardo was one reviewer who confirmed the battery is actually 5000 mAh. whether it is or not is irrelevant anyways because ifs its not its close enough.
As far as new batteries being fauly. This is my second evic vt and the battery life on the first one was the same. also not sure what part of the firing button be held down for a total of 25 min at 40 watts seems unreasonable.
Anyways it seems the answer to my question is that my evic vt battery would last about 1.5 times longer than the vs200.

Never used the VT myself and I said it must be 3.7 based on rating you gave me of 5000mah. I made an assumption that you as the owner of the unit would be supplying me with the proper specs of your unit and that may have been an error on my part.

I have no doubt that if KTMRider is saying it is a 3s 1500mah lipo in the VT he has checked it out and verified that info before doing so. What he says about JT supplying battery specs that may not be 100% accurate ad slanting numbers to the high side is a known fact.

I may owe you an apology for supplying you with bad information(3.7v) as I was very tired and did not take the time to independently verify the information you supplied me with prior to offering an opinion and I should never have done so.

 

[coilburner]

Never used the VT myself and I said it must be 3.7 based on rating you gave me of 5000mah. I made an assumption that you as the owner of the unit would be supplying me with the proper specs of your unit and that may have been an error on my part.

I have no doubt that if KTMRider is saying it is a 3s 1500mah lipo in the VT he has checked it out and verified that info before doing so. What he says about JT supplying battery specs that may not be 100% accurate ad slanting numbers to the high side is a known fact.

I may owe you an apology for supplying you with bad information(3.7v) as I was very tired and did not take the time to independently verify the information you supplied me with prior to offering an opinion and I should never have done so.

Im really confused. KTM rider is the one I quoted that said that the evic vt operates at 11.1 volts. you are among the "others" I mentioned. it was never mentioned that you supplied me with wrong info so Im not sure why you think you did. Its my understanding also that the cells are in parallel.

 

[Tpat591]

Im really confused. KTM rider is the one I quoted that said that the evic vt operates at 11.1 volts. you are among the "others" I mentioned. it was never mentioned that you supplied me with wrong info so Im not sure why you think you did. Its my understanding also that the cells are in parallel.

Replying on phone power out here. Trying to verify by spec & everything went dark. Only found this so far:

REMOVED

Was watching video & made it to point where he pulled the wrap off. Saw the 3 cells and made another assumption.

 

[coilburner]

Replying on phone power out here. Trying to verify by spec & everything went dark. Only found this so far:

Its says playback has been disabled but I have seen that video. If the average person takes apart an evic they will find that Joyetech lied. but I believe if you knowledgeable and take certain things into consideration and use math you come to 5000mAh. Im 95% certain on that. Any way like I said it really doesn't matter and im tired of talking about the battery capacity of the evic.

 

[Tpat591]

Its says playback has been disabled but I have seen that video. If the average person takes apart an evic they will find that Joyetech lied. but I believe if you knowledgeable and take certain things into consideration and use math you come to 5000mAh. Im 95% certain on that. Any way like I said it really doesn't matter and im tired of talking about the battery capacity of the evic.

That is a 11.1v 3s 1500mah Lipo inside as per the video verifying what KTM rider said. You can expect the Evic VT to last 1.6 times longer than VS200.

Edit: Now that I have seen the rest of video, no balance leads means parallel -3.7v

 

[AtmizrOpin]

so we can dump this evic subject, the three packs in the evic are tied together in parallel. no balance leads, also did some research. 3.7 volts nominal pack voltage. back to the VS.

 

[KenD]

Never used the VT myself and I said it must be 3.7 based on rating you gave me of 5000mah. I made an assumption that you as the owner of the unit would be supplying me with the proper specs of your unit and that may have been an error on my part.

I have no doubt that if KTMRider is saying it is a 3s 1500mah lipo in the VT he has checked it out and verified that info before doing so. What he says about JT supplying battery specs that may not be 100% accurate ad slanting numbers to the high side is a known fact.

I may owe you an apology for supplying you with bad information(3.7v) as I was very tired and did not take the time to independently verify the information you supplied me with prior to offering an opinion and I should never have done so.

If I remember correctly, what Pbusardo found out after talking with Joyetech and getting his hands on the battery specs is that the batteries are 1500 mah a piece for the high amp drain applications they can be used for, but 1667 something for the lower drain application of the Evic vt. Also, their arranged in parallel, if my memory serves me.

I could be remembering wrong, but I don't feel like watching that video again

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[Tpat591]

If I remember correctly, what Pbusardo found out after talking with Joyetech and getting his hands on the battery specs is that the batteries are 1500 mah a piece for the high amp drain applications they can be used for, but 1667 something for the lower drain application of the Evic vt. Also, their arranged in parallel, if my memory serves me.

I could be remembering wrong, but I don't feel like watching that video again

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Lost power when watching video & never saw beyond him pulling wrap exposing 3 cells. Wasn't gonna waste my phone battery during outage on that any more than I already did. Internet just came back and have since watched rest and realized it is indeed 3.7v. Never had a VT and never learned about it. Only did so because Coilburner was rebutting KTMs post.

Coilburner got his answer and we can all move on now. Sorry! Thanks for info!

 

[dimo]

Not sure if this has been posted. The guts of the vaporshark.

Took it apart because mine has a messed up firing button. Going to do the replacement myself and replace all the buttons while I have it open.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Not sure if this has been posted. The guts of the vaporshark.

Took it apart because mine has a messed up firing button. Going to do the replacement myself and replace all the buttons while I have it open.

i wonder if these components circled in red are what separates a 2 amp board from a regular one? i wish i could see the opposite side of the board. just curious.

 

[dimo]

i wonder if these components circled in red are what separates a 2 amp board from a regular one? i wish i could see the opposite side of the board. just curious.View attachment 527133

Maybe. I just looked at the data sheet for the DNA 200 to take a look at their pictures. I don't have a non-vaporshark DNA 200 board to compare against.

Looks like quite a few things were changed to accommodate vaporshark and their specific feature set. From the charging, to the buttons, to the onboard led's.

Popped out the board and took a pic for you.

 

[retird]

THX for the pictures...

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Maybe. I just looked at the data sheet for the DNA 200 to take a look at their pictures.

Looks like quite a few things were changed to accommodate vaporshark and their specific feature set. From the charging, to the buttons, to the onboard led's.

Popped out the board and took a pic for you.

thanks @dimo. there are differences between the boards. the most obvious being the screen ribbon socket facing the right side of the board to accommodate for VS's bottom mount screen. the back of the VS's board looks the same as the rest. same amount and arrangement of the mosfets, capacitors, inductors, current resistor etc. thanks again.