Variable Voltage and Nic Level

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PillowOfJess

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I just got an MVP 2.0 and I'm using the Kanger T3'D tank. At the same time, decided to drop the nic level I'm using from 12-15 to 6mg and it seems like I have to crank the voltage on this thing to 4.6-4.8 to taste my juice. This is the same juice I've used previously with a lower nic level than in the past in the same clearomizer. With the higher nic version of the juice, I've only had to the set the voltage on about 4.0 when using my eGo C Twists.

Does anyone else find they have to crank the voltage up when they use lower nic juice to get the same flavor as with higher nic juice? Could it be my set up? Vapor's tongue?
 

abby1

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My only thought is, are you using a new coil? I noticed with my vision spinner VV that as the coil gets gunked (that's a vape word, right? LOL) up, it takes a little more volts to taste the juice. Same with a dying battery.

I use 12 mgs right now. I just bought juice at 6mg, but they need steeping. I'll be interested to hear what the experienced members have to say about your quetsion.
 

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I started with 24mg and was vaping about six watts with it. Since then I stepped down to 20mg, 18mg, 15mg and now 12mg. I'm vaping 6.5 to 7.0 watts now.

In volts, I started at about 3.4V or less and moved up to around 4.0V. That doesn't mean as much as watts because I used a couple of cartos with coils of different resistance.
 
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PillowOfJess

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My only thought is, are you using a new coil? I noticed with my vision spinner VV that as the coil gets gunked (that's a vape word, right? LOL) up, it takes a little more volts to taste the juice. Same with a dying battery.

I use 12 mgs right now. I just bought juice at 6mg, but they need steeping. I'll be interested to hear what the experienced members have to say about your quetsion.

The coil may be the thing. I use the same tank over and over and I never clean the coil. The coil is maybe 3 weeks old. I keep reading about this dry burn thing. I tried it on the Aspire coils I had a while back and burned two of them so now I'm too afraid to try it again. I hate wasting money. I know, coils are cheap, but I guess I am cheaper. Lol.
 

abby1

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The coil may be the thing. I use the same tank over and over and I never clean the coil. The coil is maybe 3 weeks old. I keep reading about this dry burn thing. I tried it on the Aspire coils I had a while back and burned two of them so now I'm too afraid to try it again. I hate wasting money. I know, coils are cheap, but I guess I am cheaper. Lol.

I really think you need to change the coil. The coils are still cheaper than a pack of smokes. :) I think the dry burn is for people who drip. I don't think it works on coils for tanks like yours and mine.
 

PillowOfJess

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Ok. I bit the bullet and disassembled the coil. Good lord the flavor wicks on that thing were burnt to hell. So much so that the were burned and stuck together. Long story short, changed the coil since I ruined the flavor wicks in an attempt to take them out and clean them. The taste is better now.
 

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serenity21899

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Going down to 6mg from 12mg nic has proven difficult for me. There is way less throat hit. To help compensate some things you can try are:

Increase the PG in your juice
vape a strong flavor like cinnamon or menthol (or add it to what you normally vape)
turn up the power

When going down to a lower nic level I make sure I have some of the higher nic and I buy only the lower nic. I then can play with both juices as needed until all of the higher amount is gone. (It's late - hopefully that made sense).
 

PillowOfJess

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Going down to 6mg from 12mg nic has proven difficult for me. There is way less throat hit. To help compensate some things you can try are:

Increase the PG in your juice
vape a strong flavor like cinnamon or menthol (or add it to what you normally vape)
turn up the power

When going down to a lower nic level I make sure I have some of the higher nic and I buy only the lower nic. I then can play with both juices as needed until all of the higher amount is gone. (It's late - hopefully that made sense).

I do 70 PG for the same reason and buy two strengths of juice I like too. I was trying to be disciplined and only buy 6mg, but some times, you just need a bigger kick. I might go back to getting the high low nic combo if I can't get used to this 6mg level soon.
 

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I do 70 PG for the same reason and buy two strengths of juice I like too. I was trying to be disciplined and only buy 6mg, but some times, you just need a bigger kick. I might go back to getting the high low nic combo if I can't get used to this 6mg level soon.

And that is perfectly ok to do. It was suggested to me that maybe I should have dropped down to 9mg, then 6mg later on. But I'm already there with no 12mg left, so I will just make the best of it.
 

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The coil may be the thing. I use the same tank over and over and I never clean the coil. The coil is maybe 3 weeks old. I keep reading about this dry burn thing. I tried it on the Aspire coils I had a while back and burned two of them so now I'm too afraid to try it again. I hate wasting money. I know, coils are cheap, but I guess I am cheaper. Lol.

I really think you need to change the coil. The coils are still cheaper than a pack of smokes. :) I think the dry burn is for people who drip. I don't think it works on coils for tanks like yours and mine.

It does, but it takes some practice. I use Kanger mini T3's, and generally don't bother with dry-burning or rewicking. If you look around, you can get the coil replacements for around $1.25, so it's generally not worth the trouble. If you want to give it a try, here's what you need to do. Take the coil off the battery, and take the tank off the coil, but leave it on the base. Gently rock the post out of it's seat. At this point, you will see the wicks. Remove the loose flavor wicks. They are cotton and will burn when you dry-burn the coils. The wicks that go through the middle of the coil are silicone and will not burn. OK, so rinse the wick and coil as well as you can. If you don't see a bunch of blackened junk on them, then you don't need to dry-burn, and can just put it all back together. If you do, blot the wicks dry as best you can, and put the base and coil on your battery (without the tank). Pulse the battery on for a few seconds at a time. You should start to see smoke. Keep pulsing the battery and eventually the wicks will dry enough that the coils will start to glow red. Do that for a bit, until it looks like the wicks are getting white again and all the gunk has burned off the coils. If you pulse it on for too long, you risk the coil popping/breaking, and then the head is toast, unless you want to recoil (whole other process!). Take the base and coil head off the battery, and rinse it thoroughly. If you can re-use the flavor wicks, put them back on. If they are blackened or otherwise un-usable, you can replace them with 100% cotton threads or cotton pulled from a cotton ball and trimmed to size. Put the post back on, and you are good to go!

(Again, this is why I mostly just throw out the old coil head and put a new one in. A lot of trouble, but it does work!)
 

PillowOfJess

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I really think you need to change the coil. The coils are still cheaper than a pack of smokes. :) I think the dry burn is for people who drip. I don't think it works on coils for tanks like yours and mine.

I wonder how people are even removing the dirty wicks at all. They seemed to be wired in place aside from the gunk that was on them. You may be right: maybe this isn't a thing for people with our type of equipment.
 

abby1

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I wonder how people are even removing the dirty wicks at all. They seemed to be wired in place aside from the gunk that was on them. You may be right: maybe this isn't a thing for people with our type of equipment.

The flavor wick, I believe, just rests on the coil. It isn't twisted into it. But they are tiny. My son tried to clean one for me and I watched. In my opinion, it is not worth the time and effort. I think though, when you hear people talk about dry burning and re-wicking, and making coils and using cotton or silica to make a new flavor wicks - those folks are dripping. Something different than using a tank like you have. :)
 

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LOL, you know, after I typed all that up, I went into the kitchen to mess with my coils. I ended up popping one, and deciding that it definitely isn't worth the trouble! Now I'm off to just order several months of new coils...

And yes, the flavor wick just rests on the coil. From the picture, it looks like you might have pulled out all of the wick, and the wire coil, as well!
 
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