Variable voltage? Or not?

[HawaiianVaporTrailz]

Greetings!

I'm new to the world of vaping, and have yet to put together my first system. I'm a 20+ year, pack a day smoker looking for a better alternative.

I'm looking at a Kanger Geni running 1.8 ohms to be used with various flavors with a 50/50 mixture at 12-18 nic level. I've read that a VV battery is better for the various clearo's and/or juices I plan to use.

Since I'm new to all this, should I stick with a regular battery, or better off in the long run to get a VV batt?

If this question has been posted and answered before, I apologize.

-Ross

 

[nyiddle]

Variable > Fixed, 100% of the time.

In the end it just means more options for what you can throw on top of your batteries.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Welcome Ross ! Sorry, I am a real air-head today and am not quite getting the question... I will bump the answer to others. Glad you are trying to quit smoking

 

[Ou2mame]

I would look at the evic vt, istick 30, ipv d2, cool fire or other inexpensive variable wattage mods with internal batteries to start with, and if you like that, in 3 or 6 months upgrade to a removable battery mod like the sigelei 75w with temp control, after you figure out what you like and dislike. It's easy to recommend expensive setups but I get it if people don't want to invest a ton of money to see if they like it. But you do need something decent to really figure out if you enjoy it.

As for tanks, I always recommend the Nautilus mini as a good beginner tank because it has a pretty tight draw like a cigarette. Once you get used to the vapor you might want to go with a higher airflow tank like the Arctic or Atlantis tanks, and those will work with the mods i mentioned. There's so many options now, and it really boils down to budget and preference.

 

[Electrodave]

Welcome! Variable voltage comes in handy. You can adjust the voltage if it gets too hot or too cool, which will vary with the coils used.

My suggestion for an initial setup would be an inexpensive starter kit like this one:

Nice, easy to use battery. Comes with a decent tank. For around $15, I think it's a great option.

X6 Vaporizer Pen Pro 2 Kit Battery 1300mAh Variable Voltage Starter Vape New | eBay

 

[Baditude]

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder

Variable power (variable voltage or variable wattage) definitely has advantages over a fixed voltage mod. These are also called "regulated" mods.

Regulated mods (variable voltage) use micro computers to regulate the vapor to stay consistant to what is dialed in by the user. They allow for "fine tuning" the vapor to the user's personal preferences, as some vapers prefer a warmer vape while others prefer a cooler vape. In addition, some flavors are better at a lower power setting while others are better at a higher power setting.

The voltage output from a regulated mod is not the battery voltage (like in a mechanical mod). It is converted using a combination of buck/boost and/or PWM (pulse width modulation), or pulsed DC circuitry to achieve the desired wattage.

At wattages requiring less than the battery voltage, the mod will either regulate the voltage down or more often pulse the DC voltage on and off to get the desired wattage.

At wattages requiring a higher voltage than the battery voltage, the buck/boost circuitry will boost the battery voltage up to get the desired wattage. This buck boost circuitry has some loss so it will use more watts from the battery than at a lower voltage output from the mod.

These processors have built-in safety circuitry which make them a better choice for novice or intermediate vapors because of their safety features. Regulated mods can be tube or box mods. There are newer models called "high wattage" regulated mods which have all the benefits of a regular regulated mod in addition to higher power capability to fire super low-resistance sub-ohm coils.

Mechanical mods (fixed voltage) are bare-bones tube or box battery holders with no power regulation/variable power control, and no built-in safety features. These have recently enjoyed a resurgence in popularity because of RBAs (rebuildable atomizers). Because there is no computer to regulate voltage, mechanical mods depend solely on the battery's output and the resistance of the heating coil. Vape quality will gradually and progressively decline as the battery is drained during use.

 

[HawaiianVaporTrailz]

Welcome Ross ! Sorry, I am a real air-head today and am not quite getting the question... I will bump the answer to others. Glad you are trying to quit smoking

Sorry, Axiom. Guess I should have been a bit more specific. The various ejuices I plan on trying, as per suggestions, will be a 50/50 VG/PG mixture. And I plan on getting various other clearo's in the future. As I understand it, different clearo and ejuice combos may require different voltages for best flavor and performance. Just trying to figure out if a VV battery is for me. And judging by the various postings, it seems a VV set up would be better.

 

[edyle]

Greetings!

I'm new to the world of vaping, and have yet to put together my first system. I'm a 20+ year, pack a day smoker looking for a better alternative.

I'm looking at a Kanger Geni running 1.8 ohms to be used with various flavors with a 50/50 mixture at 12-18 nic level. I've read that a VV battery is better for the various clearo's and/or juices I plan to use.

Since I'm new to all this, should I stick with a regular battery, or better off in the long run to get a VV batt?

If this question has been posted and answered before, I apologize.

-Ross

get the vv battery.

gives you the option to adjust the voltage up or down if you find the vape is too cold or too hot.

when you change coil you may find you need to adjust the voltage for the different coil.

when you put in a fresh coil, sometimes you have to start off at lower voltage, then over time you wind the coil runs at a little higher voltage, then you change the coil, and you are back to lower voltage again

 

[HawaiianVaporTrailz]

I would look at the evic vt, istick 30, ipv d2, cool fire or other inexpensive variable wattage mods with internal batteries to start with, and if you like that, in 3 or 6 months upgrade to a removable battery mod like the sigelei 75w with temp control, after you figure out what you like and dislike. It's easy to recommend expensive setups but I get it if people don't want to invest a ton of money to see if they like it. But you do need something decent to really figure out if you enjoy it.

As for tanks, I always recommend the Nautilus mini as a good beginner tank because it has a pretty tight draw like a cigarette. Once you get used to the vapor you might want to go with a higher airflow tank like the Arctic or Atlantis tanks, and those will work with the mods i mentioned. There's so many options now, and it really boils down to budget and preference.

Yes, sadly it all comes down to financials. If I had an unlimited budget, I'd go all out. I'm trying to keep total costs, including shipping and taxes, to be in the $70 neighborhood or below.

 

[kformeck]

I'm with everyone else; regulated devices are awesome because they give greater control over your vape. I usually use mech mods but sometimes I build something crazy that requires more than 4.2 volts to have a reasonable ramp up time. Not to mention certain flavors taste better at different temperatures (which you can control using variable wattage or voltage).

 

[Ou2mame]

If you've got time, fasttech is the cheapest in the world. They ship from China. That will be the ultimate budget build. Otherwise, vapingcheap.com has many offers, vaporbeast has great prices especially their clearance section. Then there's the hybrid Chinese companies with USA warehouses like angelcigs

 

[Ou2mame]

Vaporbeast you can so the istick 40w tc with the Nautilus mini and the coupon code mixnmatch for 62.91 shipped

 

[Ou2mame]

On fasttech from China those would be 31.18 shipped

 

[TFL!]

Ross
I was a 2 to 2 1/2 pack a day for 30+ years. And I would recommend a VV/VW battery to start out. To see if you want to stay with it. Then go to a more costly unit.

 

[suprtrkr]

VV is better than straight battery voltage in a pen kit, and stays that way unless and until you decide to move into mech mods and rebuildable toppers. Having said that, I think variable wattage is easier to use, more intuitive in understanding how to set, and naturally compensates for minor differences like the coil tolerance. They're also not exorbitantly priced (or some of them, lol.) You can get an iStick 30W for might little more than a quality VV battery. It is more powerful and has a bigger battery, meaning it will last longer between charges, in addition to the advantages I mention above. Nothing wrong with VV. They work just fine. I used them a lot in my beginning days. Also, they're hugely better than just a straight eGo-type fixed voltage battery. But there are, IMHO, better options available for about the same price.

 

[MaenadMoogle]

You can get a nautilus mini + 30w ileaf + juice for $70 from Mt. Baker. . . just did it. (check around the forum for a coupon code, I know it's out there somewhere)

It's going to last a while, you're going to enjoy it, and you won't have to upgrade for quite a while.
MUCH better than investing in a fixed ego setup and wanting to upgrade a month later anyway.

 

[Moonlitwish]

Go with the vv. if you are trying different flavors, it will allow you a better vape. In my experience cream soda and a basic menthol taste their best at different voltages. There is little more frustrating that getting excited about a new flavor and having it burn too hot or too cool and not being able to do anything about it.

 

[Bunnykiller]

actually mechs are VV... the more you use them the voltage varies lower and lower

 

[Grimwald]

I have mixed feelings on the subject.

Would I rather have VV than fixed voltage? Sure. Do I ever change the voltage? No.

All of my devices are set at 3.7 volts. All of my toppers have 1.5-1.8 ohm coils. I use the same liquid all day. So I never change anything.

 

[dhood]

I've been experimenting with large coils in my Kayfun rebuildables for a while. I usually use 9 or 10 wraps of 26 or 28 gauge wire so I end up at 1.3 or 1.9-2.0 ohms. I run either build at 15 watts and it is perfect. With variable wattage, I set it to 15 watts and it doesn't matter which tank I put on. I get 15 watts and I don't have to calculate what voltage I need to get there. It looks like the iStick 40W can be had for around $35 and it has temp control if you decide to go that route later. It will have plenty of power so you won't have to upgrade for a while.