Virgin Vapors secret ingredient?

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skoot

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Does anyone know what the heck they do?!?! I'm in love with everything I've tried from them- French Vanilla Kiss, Cherry Marshmallow, Dark Roast, all the stuff in their absolute virgin line. It's all VG, even the flavors, and natural and organic. No pg or alcohol anywhere. I respect them too much to ask for clone recipes, but I gotta know the secret ingredient!

Where are they getting organic, no alcohol, no PG flavors?
 

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I don't think there is anything on the Virgin Vapor site stating that the flavors are not in alcohol only that they do not contain PG and that they are US made. Its been assumed that since they are called organic they are probably Nature's Flavors which do contain alcohol.

If I leave the cap off for extended time during steeping will that remove all traces of alcohol from VV's juices?

My liver thanks you in advance for your response,

RHP
 

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I don't think there is anything on the Virgin Vapor site stating that the flavors are not in alcohol only that they do not contain PG and that they are US made. Its been assumed that since they are called organic they are probably Nature's Flavors which do contain alcohol.

"The Absolute line of Virgin Vapor flavors are certified organic under U.K. organic standards. They are all pure extractions from fruits, flowers, vegetables and nuts (any flavor that includes nuts is noted on the product page for those with nut allergies). However, unlike the original Virgin Vapor line, these flavors do not contain any alcohol. They are pure flavor extractions created by a proprietary, multi-stage technology that produces flavors that are so true to life, you think you are actually tasting fresh fruit, flowers, coffee beans or nuts! They are also extremely potent, with the average usage being only 1-2 drops per milliliter instead of the more traditional 25 to 35% or more of total volume that is used in most e-liquids. This means that you are vaping less flavor while getting more flavor! Vegan, sugar-free, gluten-free, no colorants, fillers, diluting agents or preservatives. These precious floral and fruit essences are an amazing delight to the senses!"
 

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Its been assumed that since they are called organic they are probably Nature's Flavors which do contain alcohol.

Once I ordered nature's flavors flavorings, I "knew". Just smell the NF kona cream, the NF carmel cream.....


Personally, I prefer Flavour Art and TPA because I need flavor makers who "divulge"...I am one who won't vape diacetyls or diketones, so I look for the flavor makers to tell me this stuff. In the lab you can take that stuff out of flavors, in nature, i.e organics, you can't.

As I keep saying "natural" isn't always better. Ask any organic farmer. Some of the pesticides that are natural are twice as poisonous as the synthethic ones. I think this natural thing has been over sold by the health food companies starting 30 years ago....there are just things in nature I have no interest in experiencing. :)

As for cloning a vendor juice, I can assure you there are DIYers on ECF that can make juice that would be top sellers......also many vendors started out that way. I see no reason to clone anything when you can make your own delicious inventions. But you can certainly get close once you start understading the flavoring companies, what each of their products tastes and smells like, etc. The problem with cloning is that you are trying to get exact something else you vaped......it makes no sense to me to do that, but to each their own. :) I finally made a juice that I couldn't find a vendor to do it right for me.....now it's right. :)

but cloning as "disrepectful"? I don't see that at all. imitation is the highest form of flattery. If you can make it, why not make it?
 
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Vegan, sugar-free, gluten-free, no colorants, fillers, diluting agents or preservatives.

And as any chemist will tell you, which I am not, none of this addresses "other stuff", like large molecule fruit sugars, oils, particulates, etc. let alone diacetyl, diketones-- etc. and are they safe to inhale into lungs?

It's just not that simple. :) That's all I'm saying.

It's like people who love woodstoves. I use mine, but not all the time. I really don't think it's healthy to breathe all that particulate with windows and doors closed up all winter. :)
 
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They are all pure extractions from fruits, flowers, vegetables and nuts... Vegan, sugar-free, gluten-free, no colorants, fillers, diluting agents or preservatives.

Vegan?? I don't think so, If vegans can't eat honey because it exploits the bees, than can not partake in ANY crop pollinated by bees, as that also exploits them.

No preservatives? Vegetable Glycerin IS preservative!!!

No diluting agents? than how is the juice not the consistency of pure VG (molasses)

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sorry, just felt like being a legalistic $%*! for a minute.
I wouldn't care if there juice was mixed by enslaved pixies in a factory powered by burning baby seals, I'd still vape it.:p

I would assume that they are using NF and/or making there own extracts (not that hard, but time consuming) and using distilled water to thin.
 
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Vegan?? I don't think so, If vegans can't eat honey because it exploits the bees

You appear to have a grave misunderstanding about why most people who stick with a vegan lifestyle do so.

My M.D. suggested it to me, a number of years ago, based on my cholesterol and a few other problems.

I can never thank him enough, I am not even a pound overweight now, I feel great, my cholesterol and blood tests came back perfect, and I feel.......GREAT. There's quite a lot of very good research coming out on why eating vegan is so healthy, and it is real medical research.

I never once thought about bees. :)
 
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