I shows the voltage under load, and I highly recommend them. They don't work with many items with Pulse Width Modulation, but show the speed of the pulses. I use mine in my Bolt review, if you want to see it in use.
Vision TOX with metal heads back in stock
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I shows the voltage under load, and I highly recommend them. They don't work with many items with Pulse Width Modulation, but show the speed of the pulses. I use mine in my Bolt review, if you want to see it in use.
Did I use it when I stacked the batteries? I know I used it in one of the takes.
Sorry. I think I used it in the Gripper VV. I know I used it in the Deluxe Riva Kit for sure.
Hi Davon,
I recently purchased a 5v Wow! 5v Wow! From Clouds of Vapor | Vaping Guides to the Electronic Cigarette that is modulated at supposedly 5v but reads nearly 5.4v on my VOM. Not sure if it's supposed to be 5v both unloaded and under load and I have no way of knowing what the under load voltage is.
My question, is there a reasonably inexpensive way of reading Pulse Width Modulated voltage under load? I've seen the machine Busardo uses and I know that's way out of my league. Most likely have to build an adapter to be able to read the voltage under load with my VOM.
Other than my doubts about the under load voltage the Wow is a very impressive PV for $25.
Errol
You could probably get the same unit that we have, and take off the shield on it. Then use the VOM on the 510 connector in it. That should work.
If it is putting out 5.4V without load, it probably translates to about 5.0 under load though. At least, many of mine seem to work like that.
Thanks Devon. I have three two battery VV mods and the output under load is the same as my setting.
I shouldn't have too much of a problem building an adapter to check the voltage under load with some of the many spare parts I have.
My primary disappointments with the 2.5A single battery mods I've tried, Lavatube and Tox is that one has no idea what the under load voltage is without a meter and to make things worse it changes as the battery is depleted, at least on my two Lavatubes.
I've written COV to ask them to check a new unit to see if mine is a anomaly.
Errol
I meant to ask this here and forgot till now. I have a meter, one of those that screws in between 510 connection and carto. Always worked perfectly till now. But for some reason, on more than 5 out of 10x I've tried to meter anything on my Tox (and keep in mind, bad head, still) NOTHING registers. Only time I've ever had nothing register is when I've had my vv box turned down to almost nothing. I know its right around 4v cause I'm comparing it another unit, and I know what 4v on a resurrector with this juice tastes like. But nada on the meter. Any possible cause any of you clever people can come up with for it? I'm definitely firing, and getting nice hit off it at the time. Just some weirdo electrical glitch cause of weird head, or sumpin?
Thanks Devon. I have three two battery VV mods and the output under load is the same as my setting.
I shouldn't have too much of a problem building an adapter to check the voltage under load with some of the many spare parts I have.
My primary disappointments with the 2.5A single battery mods I've tried, Lavatube and Tox is that one has no idea what the under load voltage is without a meter and to make things worse it changes as the battery is depleted, at least on my two Lavatubes.
I've written COV to ask them to check a new unit to see if mine is a anomaly.
Errol
Nope. I have a LavaTube. They can't keep the voltage when the battery depletes. At least, not mine.
Mine doesn't have any issues, but the one built in to my VV Mod Box does the same thing. It just shows up with strange lettering on it. After a few times, to many times I use it, it will start registering again.
Should we receive a "GotVapes has sent you a package" email? I got a package today, but it was my t-shirt.
By the way, my daughter (she's 12) thinks "I smoke batteries" is very weird. I like it more, because it bugs her!
If I understand correctly you can vape with the voltmeter between the Carto and the Tox, just no reading on the meter? If not that scenario does you atty work on the Tox, no meter? Does the Tox work with anything? Does the meter work on anything else? Don't know what you mean by "bad head"? (Haven't had that problem since I quit drinking.) :
Errol
rofl.. teach me to ask whilst on pain meds. Sorry about that! Ok, lemme try again.
*BTW, 'bad head' means one of the original run tox controller heads (where all the electronics live), which have programming error or some such, so they don't hold voltage above a certain level, etc... ie: need to be replaced.
*Meter works on everything else. Tried it on a few boxmods at multi voltages, egos etc. Only other times in the past that I've gotten no reading on it are when I basically have nominal voltage, such as dial being way under 3.2v on my vv boxmod. Meter definitely works. Normally it takes a second with the digital numbers whirling around, then gives me a reading.
*Tox head seems to function pretty normally up to about 4.2v. No prob with attys on it, or cartos or anything till I try to push it over that low 4ish level. DOES however misfire a ton, and other issues, like fire cuts in and out during a hit... odd stuff like that. Its definitely malfunctioning, but vapable for the most part, at low voltages. Basically, exactly the same probs lots of the first run tox heads have. I just haven't gotten mine replaced, yet. However, I'm getting good fire on the hits I'm trying to measure, just seeing no reading on the voltmeter.
*Yes, can vape just fine with meter on the tox... I just don't get any reading whatsoever on the voltmeter. I'm getting no whirling numbers on the meter, no reading, nothing, on what seems to be a good 4v hit. No dig readout whatsoever. However, I know based on 3yrs experience that I'm getting about a 4ish voltage vape out of it, plus doing a direct comparison on a VV box with same carto, same juice, same voltage. I'm about 98% certain its putting out somewhere right around 4v, maybe 4.1 or 4.2, but not seeing anything on the voltmeter.
Hope that's clearer. Now does that ring any bells, off hand, for anyone? I can't for the life of me figure out what's going on, but then my basic electrical theory is sadly lacking.
My concern over all this is I'm trying to figure out if this is because I just have a malfunctioning controller head currently, or if its likely to do the same thing once I get the kit replaced with the corrected controller. I plan to do some extensive voltage testing to make sure the new controller functions up to the limits of its tech specs, and don't know how to accomplish that if the Tox is incompatible with voltage meter.
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orachel, your meter reads DC voltage. It cannot read the voltage from the regulator circuits that are now in some of the latest batteries, which is sort of a pulsating AC voltage. Some of the new eGo type batteries now have a similar circuit and people with meters like yours can't read theirs, either. Neither can most of the cheap multimeters we buy nowadays. Fortunately, my Fluke 73 meter works ok for this type of circuit, but it is the exception rather than the rule.
Mine doesn't have any issues reading the TOX. It doesn't use Pulse Width Modulation, nor is it Linear. I think it uses a boost converter, but a big 'ol flawed one, which is why V2 and V3 are coming.
I have come to the conclusion that the TOX is not the only battery with a flawed circuit. I have tested a few other battery types in recent months and all of them have the same "flaw". They all put out the voltage claimed by the maker when the battery does not have a load applied, but none of them measure that voltage in actual use.
Most users do not question this kind of voltage and their vendors do not either. That has not been the case with GotVapes and the TOX. Badkolo is doing us a great favor and is forcing them either to put up or shut up. It remains to be seen what the final outcome will be. Hopefully, other manufactures will begin to see the light and these false claims will be a thing of the past. Thanks, bad.
yeah its a mess but the company didnt back down at all and for that i credit them, i dont credit them for letting them out in the wold without proper cheking but thats china for ya. now they say progress is made and metal tubes will be made as well for the head, another few days and this should all be sorted out as to exactly whats going on.
this was kind of a shock sinse they are the ones who made the ultimo and those guts are impressive and it outputs well.
I thought the exact same thing! SteelJan ripped apart one of those ultimos in a review (I never wanted ultimo, but watched to check out GS construction), and even a non techy person like me could see it was manufactured to great standards. I was super confident in buying tox because of that. The ultimo had some weird foibles that wouldn't work out for me... just not to my vapestyle... but thought the manufacturing would be super solid on tox since made by GS as well. Esp when we saw details like the oled, which just scream 'wellmade!' to me. I did a few days worth of research and I was surprised by this little experience. I'm sure vendors who've been dealing with manufacturer before were flat out floored.
And just to make sure I'm understanding... you're saying the new heads are metal? That is so fabulous!
Thanks guys so much for figuring out voltage meter issue! So guess my type of meter may not work on new tox either. I'll still be able to 'vape test' and know if I'm close to voltage, but that is indeed a bummer. Hoping someone else out there can put together some solid data and voltage testing (ala Pbusardo's charts in LavaTube review), cause I know a number of people are waiting to verify the heads are fixed to buy.
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rofl.. teach me to ask whilst on pain meds. Sorry about that! Ok, lemme try again.
*BTW, 'bad head' means one of the original run tox controller heads (where all the electronics live), which have programming error or some such, so they don't hold voltage above a certain level, etc... ie: need to be replaced.
Same issue I had with my tox but the Vmeter worked just fine on it.
Seems certain your meter is ok, can't imagine why your tox will vape through the meter but not show a voltage. Should not make any difference but you might try your other battery combination with your tox.
Fortunately those problems will go away in the near future if Bad has anything to say about it.
That is a mystery, even more so that the meter doesn't at least blink but at least you know your meter is good and I have little doubt if will work on your replacement Tox.
Hope that's clearer. Now does that ring any bells, off hand, for anyone? I can't for the life of me figure out what's going on, but then my basic electrical theory is sadly lacking.
Some weird things were happening in that original controller head, it seems reasonable to assume the replacement will correct the problem.
FWIW I've never heard of a Mod replacement battery having any "pulsating AC voltage" that br5495 mentioned. There are many eGo PVs that have regulated voltage built into the electronics of the head but not in the batteries.
Errol
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Errol, didn't even occur to me to check it with diff batt configuration. I'll try that just to make double sure that there's no way to get a reading. Crossing fingers. Thank you!!!
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