VMAX vs Provari?

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myxomatosis

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Thank you everyone for your input, it has been very valuable in the decision making process. I decided on a ProVari Chrome with Blue LED. FYI ProVape has a 5% coupon right now. I posted it on the ProVape forums taken from their own Facebook page. ProVape Coupon Code Valid July 1-5, 2012 Pacific Time - Code is "happy4"

Guess I am still old skewl, because a few points that were made in this thread kept coming back to my thought process.

1. American Made (support USA vendors)
2. 1 battery instead of two (something about stacking batteries scares me, esp with magnets)
3. Track Record of ProVari
4. Customer service reputation and warranty
5. Solid Build (I scoured the web reading and viewing clips about the ProVari and VMax)

Im not knocking the VMAX, as I have read MANY MANY threads about how good it is. I just figured, take a chance on the VMAX or go for the sure thing with the ProVari...

I just got back into vaping (Doc said I HAD to stop smoking) and although I tried it before, I didnt quit the analogs the 1st time around vaping. 16 days off analogs now :) I pulled out my trusty old Silver Bullet and Black Bullet to give vaping another try.

Tons of new vendors these days which led me to the whole variable vaping possibility perusing ECF. I had to get some cartos and ran across vaporbeast.com on the forums. Tim had some of the cheapest prices on carts so I gave him a try and even bought a Vector (LT knockoff.) Opened up a whole new world to vaping. VV mods I believe is where it is at. Again, talking with Tim at VB, he suggested I look at the ProVari, guess that really says something about the guy since he doesnt sell them but suggested it considering my current wants/needs.

Anyways, thank you again for your input as it helped me make an educated decision - glad the thread was moved because I may not have found this subforum :p

Its pricy, but what the heck, if it last a few years, its worth it. Ive already saved about $85 from not smoking analogs in the past few weeks.

Dave/Tank

Happy Vaping Dave! :)
 

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hi, i have both

my vmax when set at 3v performs like a provari set at 4.5v

here's my :2c:

paint work on vmax is terrible, as mine is black and if u do wear a ring .....

button on vmax is not working properly now after one month .....

expecting it to eventually fail anytime soon :facepalm:

provari: one year warranty (two years option), vmax six months warranty (smoktech knows just too well how long it'll last)

button issue got on my nerve that i chucked it aside and used provari solely.

the stacked battery is not a concern for me, so far just like my laptop, it hasn't killed me yet :D

darn, even my domestic wireless panasonic phone uses stacked batteries.

afaik, no one has suffered from a blown panasonic domestic stacked battery phone :lol:

and should it blow up, thick stainless steel is safer than thin brass :p

vmax with 2 batt last like provari mini with 2 batt, both 18350 700 mah.

vmax pulses from 0 to 8.4v to bring u an average current, so it tends to frequently burn your DC carto with those spikes.

lots of burn taste even with single coil LR and stardust and stone v3, works for me with boge 3 ohm tank.

good luck with your choice :toast:
 

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hi, i have both

my vmax when set at 3v performs like a provari set at 4.5v

here's my :2c:

paint work on vmax is terrible, as mine is black and if u do wear a ring .....

button on vmax is not working properly now after one month .....

expecting it to eventually fail anytime soon :facepalm:

provari: one year warranty (two years option), vmax six months warranty (smoktech knows just too well how long it'll last)

button issue got on my nerve that i chucked it aside and used provari solely.

the stacked battery is not a concern for me, so far just like my laptop, it hasn't killed me yet :D

darn, even my domestic wireless panasonic phone uses stacked batteries.

afaik, no one has suffered from a blown panasonic domestic stacked battery phone :lol:

and should it blow up, thick stainless steel is safer than thin brass :p

vmax with 2 batt last like provari mini with 2 batt, both 18350 700 mah.

vmax pulses from 0 to 8.4v to bring u an average current, so it tends to frequently burn your DC carto with those spikes.

lots of burn taste even with single coil LR and stardust and stone v3, works for me with boge 3 ohm tank.

good luck with your choice :toast:

OT: LR single coils don't work well on the vmax from what I've read. You might check here regarding your problems.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-smoktech-vmax-owners-tips-tricks-quirks.html

There's lots of people that have used the vmax for a long time and might be able to help you with your issues if you're still having them.

OR I'll buy it from you if you don't want/use it. :)
 

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What sold me on the provari was the consistency of the voltage.

It will fire at the set voltage continuously through the life of the battery. Pbusardo did a nice review showing the consistency on it a while back. example; set it at 5v on a fully charged IMR and when the batt is on its last leg it still measures 5v to the atty until the unit powers down.

Not sure if the VMAX does that or not
 
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I think folks should keep in mind that Phil reviewed the Version 1 Vmax, not Version 2. As well, if anybody had the original Buzz or the original ProVari then they remember the upgrades and glitches. The Buzz had issues with dial and the connector while the ProVari had issues with the LED window popping out. Over time small things were upgraded while the units remained in Version 1 status. Recently both units received upgrades kicking them into Version 2 status and I'm sure upgrades and revisions will be the made for the Vmax.

The most important difference of course being that both Notcigs and Provape are pioneers and innovators, while Smoketech is made up of a bunch of ____________ who pretty much _______and _____to create the Vmax.

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I have both a ProVari V2 and a VMax and while the Vmax is nice enough....to say that it is equal or even close to the equivalent of a ProVari is just distortion reality. The Vmax is better than I expected but it has it's times when it blatantly reminds you it is produced by a company that has never met a product it could not find some way to mess it up. Don't get me wrong, I like the feel of the Vmax, it is slightly thinner than the ProVari and is a surprising step up for a Chinese manufacturer. But it reminds me of it's roots every time the cap tries it's hardest to cross thread for no apparent reason on battery changes...so when it comes down to trusting it...day in.....day out.....drop here....oopsy there....I can't bring myself to trust it as my only device. Perhaps no device should be trusted on it's own. We are all just one broken pv and away from home for a length of time, before we think about that dreaded cancer stick, but if I have to trust any device, I'll spend the extra 100 spot for piece of mind, far better quality and confidence that it does what it is supposed to over the long haul. Just m2c.
 
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What sold me on the provari was the consistency of the voltage.

It will fire at the set voltage continuously through the life of the battery. Pbusardo did a nice review showing the consistency on it a while back. example; set it at 5v on a fully charged IMR and when the batt is on its last leg it still measures 5v to the atty until the unit powers down.

Not sure if the VMAX does that or not

Actually just about any VV does that. They all use regulators. Even the $50 plastic SmokeTek Varicool has it.
 

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OT: LR single coils don't work well on the vmax from what I've read. You might check here regarding your problems.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-smoktech-vmax-owners-tips-tricks-quirks.html

There's lots of people that have used the vmax for a long time and might be able to help you with your issues if you're still having them.

OR I'll buy it from you if you don't want/use it. :)

my lavatube mini's button just started giving me "stuck" button click problems.

glad to let both go and buy one more provari - normal sized. :D
 

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To be honest, I think the biggest difference between the American and Chinese suppliers is that the American suppliers seem to make an effort to get it right the first time. The Chinese companies seem to throw something out there that for the most part works but, they use the feedback to improve after the fact. To me, there were some really strange features with the Vmax V1 that have probably been fixed in the V2. I haven't kept up with it.
 

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Vmax nice but unproven and made in Asia. Provari proven and assembled in the USA. I have both, and the Provari just makes me feel better! Kind of like owning a true luxury car as opposed to a clone or knockoff. Both will get you from point A to Point B, but one has history on it's side. I suppose you look at your budget and go from there.
 

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I'm not trying to sway anyone's vote, but I disagree with the Vmax being unproven. Many people swear by them, some even that own a Provari. I don't personally, but I will vouch for the VMax being more than sufficient in satisfying my needs. To say they are cheap-generic-asian-knock-offs is doing them a grave disservice IMO. I'm absolutely in love with mine.

I think the answer to VMax VS Provari = YES!
 

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I'm not trying to sway anyone's vote, but I disagree with the Vmax being unproven. Many people swear by them, some even that own a Provari. I don't personally, but I will vouch for the VMax being more than sufficient in satisfying my needs. To say they are cheap-generic-asian-knock-offs is doing them a grave disservice IMO. I'm absolutely in love with mine.

I think the answer to VMax VS Provari = YES!

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I do have a question. How long have you had it (VMax) before your recent bad experience?
 

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I'm not disagreeing with you, but I do have a question. How long have you had it (VMax) before your recent bad experience?

My case is a little unique. I bought a v1 (with a known button flaw on some of the devices manufactured) from someone who (i'm pretty sure) participated in a coop. This isn't the standard transaction that happens via the supplier directly. It's widely known that there have been updates to address the problems in it's initial design but had I bought it from a vendor it would have been replaced or I would have just paid the difference in upgrading to the newer model.

It really makes the v2 look that much more inviting IMHO. To answer your question: 2 maybe 3 weeks? Long enough to fall in love.
 

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That makes sense. I hope they still stand behind it, regardless. And (I expect) it probably took you about 10 minutes to fall in love. I'm seeing a lot of very good things about them, which is great. I'm hoping they hold up over time and remain interested, which is why I'm continuing to read updates. So... thanks! ;)

The more good stuff out there, the better for all of us. Competition, Bay-bee.
 
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