Vmod safety concerns

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I bought another Vmod and know a few things about batteries. I am concerned with the vapage battery shipped with the Vmod2.0

It is a 14500 and compresses the spring in the vmod. I will not use this battery because the spring should be able to disconnect the contact between the battery and the fire button. Not gonna happen with the vapage battery afaik. The result can be a melted fire button and possibly melted plastic chassis. Possibility of more damage can occur imo.

There are imo a lot that can go wrong because of the design of the vmod. For example being unable to quickly remove the battery because of the chimney cone and then the shell.

I am not saying things to start a comparison war but i feel Vmod needs to rethink the issues of battery size and cones.Or have warnings of some kind.

Just something to think about and I would like to hear what people think with more knowledge.

REO says the spring on their mods should not be compressed so why is Vmod different? REO has easy fast access to the battery. Why doesn't Vmod?

 

[EddieAdams]

Do you ever stop?

 

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Do you ever stop?

Only when i get satisfactory answers.Sorry but i happen to believe in safety.

You don't think compressing the spring too much is anything to worry about then why is it all springy?

I answered you, now answer me.

 

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The battery spring in the mod is supposed to collapse and disconnect the battery from the firing pin in case of a short.

My question is what happens if it can't collapse because it is compressed tightly. In other words the battery is too long. Isn't that how everyone measures batterys?

 

[tearose50]

They aren't tight in mine?? Don't know what's up with those batteries.

Certainly, if they are too tight you shouldn't use them.

Perhaps you should use AW lMR's for the safer chemistry. I also think they are a bit shorter than some other 14500 batteries on the market, but I haven't bought them all so I couldn't confirm that.

 

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I am using efest and aw imr batterys.

thanks i just wanted people to check their springs when they put a battery in a mod.

 

[Sheila Michele 1971]

I recently tried to fit the batteries that came with my VMod 2.0 into another 14500 mod and they were too big (thick and long)

Suffice it to say, when I sold my VMod Friday, those batteries went with it.

 

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I recently tried to fit the batteries that came with my VMod 2.0 into another 14500 mod and they were too big (thick and long)

Suffice it to say, when I sold my VMod Friday, those batteries went with it.

Thanks for your response. I will be doing the same very soon. The way it looks and performs as a bottom feeder is not what I want to vape with.

I had to put 4 vmod users on ignore and deleted my blog. At least one GOOD and HONEST person posts about vmods and that is fourthrok! The main 3 or 4 always want to fight

 

[BardicDruid]

The reason the 14500 is so long is because it's a protected batt, the batt will shut off itself before the spring collapses. The reason it's so long is because the protection circuit sits on top of the batt under the wrapper. And besides, if you're so in love with Reo's, what are you doing with a Vmod???

 

[Striker911]

To confirm the Reo spring, my Grand vv spring compresses about 1/3rd of the way. I had a vm xl and they do short. The hard wire that makes contact with the + pin came out when I dropped in from 2' and it started smoking next time I fired it. The spring never collapsed, but maybe it did not get hot enough.

 

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The reason the 14500 is so long is because it's a protected batt, the batt will shut off itself before the spring collapses. The reason it's so long is because the protection circuit sits on top of the batt under the wrapper. And besides, if you're so in love with Reo's, what are you doing with a Vmod???

Because i have a few friends who like them so I wanted to like them too. Not anymore though i just can't make myself like them....

 

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To confirm the Reo spring, my Grand vv spring compresses about 1/3rd of the way. I had a vm xl and they do short. The hard wire that makes contact with the + pin came out when I dropped in from 2' and it started smoking next time I fired it. The spring never collapsed, but maybe it did not get hot enough.

Just curious, did you keep the Vmod?

 

[Striker911]

Just curious, did you keep the Vmod?

No. I use a BF when I leave the house. The issue was that every time I dropped it I would have to take it apart and fix it. I wanted a BF for simplicity. Toting a tool kit around in addition seemed counter productive. But to be honest. I did love it before I dropped it. Still love the hybrid attys and still use them on the reo.
Oh and one other thing. On the vm xl the grey pannys leave room for the spring. I kept thinking the plastic housing was moving when I would push the switch harder than I needed to. It was actually the switch pushing the battery and compressing the spring. I dont regret owning it. It was a good entry BF. What I miss is the cone. It helped keep the atty from moving around and calking to the side at the 510 connection. If they ever fixed the issue I had. I would sell the reo and get another one. It worked well with a 1.5ohm hybrid.

 

[tearose50]

Hey Striker,

Oh, it's not fun to have a device break on a fall.

I'm not sure if what you had occur was really an issue or just one chassis with a flaw. My XL has fallen out of my purse more than I'd like to admit and I've not had it break anywhere. I did have that wire pop out on the original v1 once---but that was because there was a flaw with the chamber not being secure enough and it could spin. It's not something I've heard of very much.

I guess the only way to know would have been if it had been sent it in for warranty replacement and see if it happened again. My guess is that it was a QC error. Occasionally I've noticed someone missing a seal or something, but overall the QC on the v2 and XL have appeared at least as good and probably better than other goods manufactured in China.

Glad you like your shi-fu's/slant coils. I have rarely used another atty since they came out. I liked the earlier version(s), but the BF AMG Hybrid Atty sold for a year or so has been A+++.

 

[Sheila Michele 1971]

The reason the 14500 is so long is because it's a protected batt, the batt will shut off itself before the spring collapses. The reason it's so long is because the protection circuit sits on top of the batt under the wrapper. And besides, if you're so in love with Reo's, what are you doing with a Vmod???

I purchased my VMod prior to my Reo to see if I really wanted a bottom feeder. I have other 14500 protected batteries and they arent as big. Its just that simple. I have no hate for any mod (except for my misfiring ZMax, but thats a story for another day. LOL)

 

[EddieAdams]

The vapage batteries are unique in being IMR and protected I believe...I don't use them but, IMR batteries lack protection because of safer chemistry..



So they're actually redundantly protected...

 

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[vsummer1]

To confirm the Reo spring, my Grand vv spring compresses about 1/3rd of the way. I had a vm xl and they do short. The hard wire that makes contact with the + pin came out when I dropped in from 2' and it started smoking next time I fired it. The spring never collapsed, but maybe it did not get hot enough.

Hi Striker!!! Long time no see! As far as being hot enough... IT WAS SMOKING HOT! I think the spring should have collapsed BEFORE it started smoking.

 

[bsidb]

my spring collapsed a bit like it should, smoked a bit, battery never got warm ,cgr18650ch, was able to trouble shoot because it didnt totally fail like a guick to shrik spring, it wasnt my rm2 that was at fault which I would have assumed if the spring just fell, it was an internal gasket fail that surrounds the Vmod positive post

 

[classwife]

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